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Delle Donne denied medical opt-out by WNBA

The typical long term effects of Lyme disease include body aches, fatigue and sometimes a mental fog of sorts. The fatigue would concern me most relative to the coronavirus.

I am not sure if there is an appeal process for the W or not. In MLB, players can opt out if they have an approved medical condition and receive their pay. They can also opt out without an approved condition and without being entitled to their pay. In that instance, the team can decide to pay the players if they choose to.

The other day I noted that 6 time all star catcher Buster Posey opted out after he and his wife adopted twin baby girls. I don’t know if SF will be paying him or not.
 
So EDD wants to claim a medical exemption that will allow her to get paid while sitting out the WNBA season? I don't think that's unreasonable. Of course, the WNBA is denying this because Lyme disease isn't on their list of, for lack of a better word, excused medical conditions. Right? I'm sure they could make an exception in this case given the covid pandemic and the affect on people with weakened immune systems..
 
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MilfordHusky said:
I'm surprised that the CDC doesn't have Lyme Disease on their list of complicating factors for Covid. That may have been the key to the WNBA declining EDD's request. There is no appeal process.
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Even if Lyme Disease were on the CDC’s list, can it be shown that Delle Donne currently has Lyme Disease? Conventional medicine doesn’t recognize it as a disease that you have forever, like HIV.
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Chronic Lyme disease: What's actually going on here?

Chronic Lyme disease is one of the most hotly contested diagnoses in modern medicine. How has so much debate developed and does anyone know what’s going on?
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oldude said:
The typical long term effects of Lyme disease include body aches, fatigue and sometimes a mental fog of sorts. The fatigue would concern me most relative to the coronavirus.

I am not sure if there is an appeal process for the W or not. In MLB, players can opt out if they have an approved medical condition and receive their pay. They can also opt out without an approved condition and without being entitled to their pay. In that instance, the team can decide to pay the players if they choose to.

The other day I noted that 6 time all star catcher Buster Posey opted out after he and his wife adopted twin baby girls. I don’t know if SF will be paying him or not.
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The big difference being that MLB can actually afford to pay their players, while the WNBA is barely staying afloat as a league.
 
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I hope that she wins out, her health is more important then playing basketball. I'm through watching any professional sports due to it's going from sports entertainment to more of political posturing and money grabbing. The only sports I watch is college and it looks like that won't be happening this fall.
 
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Kaizen said:
If Maya and Rene can quit playing WNBA this year. Why EDD cannot just announce she is not playing?
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Bad move by the WNBA. She's the league's biggest star. Management should have shown more kindness, and erred on the side of protecting the health of a player, rather than appearing as ogres and trying to force a player into a potentially deadly situation.

Really bad PR.
 
Shades said:
Even if Lyme Disease were on the CDC’s list, can it be shown that Delle Donne currently has Lyme Disease? Conventional medicine doesn’t recognize it as a disease that you have forever, like HIV.
www.pharmaceutical-technology.com

Chronic Lyme disease: What's actually going on here?

Chronic Lyme disease is one of the most hotly contested diagnoses in modern medicine. How has so much debate developed and does anyone know what’s going on?
www.pharmaceutical-technology.com www.pharmaceutical-technology.com
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I believe the insurance industry is the cause of many multi symptom diseases not being recognized by "conventional " medicine. Insurance coding forces doctors into more narrowly defined symptoms issues, and away from a broad based evaluation of underlying causes. There was a discussion on NPR yesterday about MCS, which is an environmental driven set of illnesses. This insurance industry focus on a symptom treatment as opposed to the overall disease was broadly touched upon. Lyme disease is one of those type of sicknesses. I have no answers as I am not a professional, but it is recognized as part of a larger medical system failure. There is a tendency to concentrate on whether a problem is biologically rooted or psychologically rooted, when some issues can be both and additive.
 
Fairfield Fan said:
Bad move by the WNBA. She's the league's biggest star. Management should have shown more kindness, and erred on the side of protecting the health of a player, rather than appearing as ogres and trying to force a player into a potentially deadly situation.

Really bad PR.
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The WNBA set up a panel of physicians to make these decisions. The panel has rendered its decision. Are you suggesting the President of the WNBA should overrule the panel's decision for the sake of PR? If so, why establish the panel in the first place?
 
Maybe semantics are involved here for EDD. She was not your typical case caught early and eradicated with antibiotics. She went untreated for quite some time, allowing the bug to saturate her body and forcing her to a program of IV antibiotics which themselves beat you up. The literature states 15-20% of all cases produce long term sympthoms meaning up to a year or so. Cases like EDD's are the least understood, behaving like lupus in attacking major systems.
 
RockyMTblue2 said:
Maybe semantics are involved here for EDD. She was not your typical case caught early and eradicated with antibiotics. She went untreated for quite some time, allowing the bug to saturate her body and forcing her to a program of IV antibiotics which themselves beat you up. The literature states 15-20% of all cases produce long term sympthoms meaning up to a year or so. Cases like EDD's are the least understood, behaving like lupus in attacking major systems.
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She’s been a top level player ever since she joined the Mystics, so it’s hard to say that Lyme disease in 2008 caused her long term damage that now makes her more vulnerable to coronavirus than anybody else. But I guess everybody is an expert on this issue except this panel of doctors.

Speaking of Lupus, Isabelle Harrison reportedly has Lupus, but she hasn’t tried to opt out. Lauren Cox has Diabetes 1, but I haven’t heard any updates on her. It hasn’t been reported that she’s before the board trying to opt out. I don’t think any rookie wants to opt out.
 
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UConnCat said:
The WNBA set up a panel of physicians to make these decisions. The panel has rendered its decision. Are you suggesting the President of the WNBA should overrule the panel's decision for the sake of PR? If so, why establish the panel in the first place?
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Reread the quote from Dr. John Aucott, the director of Johns Hopkins Lyme Disease Research Center.

I suspect that the panel's opinion was weighted toward what the league wanted them to conclude. It's not as if team doctors aren't in the business of putting kids back on the playing field or the court who should be kept off. Think of Britney Hunter at Duke. Permanently injured because she wasn't kept out of practice, and off the court.
 
and again, a reminder that Tina Charles is also applying for Medical Waiver although no details are given.
 
Fairfield Fan said:
Reread the quote from Dr. John Aucott, the director of Johns Hopkins Lyme Disease Research Center.

I suspect that the panel's opinion was weighted toward what the league wanted them to conclude. It's not as if team doctors aren't in the business of putting kids back on the playing field or the court who should be kept off. Think of Britney Hunter at Duke. Permanently injured because she wasn't kept out of practice, and off the court.
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This was the process that the parties agreed to. The players's union and the league agreed that opt-out decisions were to be based on medicine, not PR. I'm not offering an opinion on the merits of the decision as I don't know anything about lyme disease.
 
UConnCat said:
This was the process that the parties agreed to. The players's union and the league agreed that opt-out decisions were to be based on medicine, not PR. I'm not offering an opinion on the merits of the decision as I don't know anything about lyme disease.
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Exactly true.

My wife has had an auto-immune issue, so she was also shocked by the decision, although her own issue with Covid is the immunosuppression due to the liver transplant necessitated by her initial illness. I think EDD and her doctor are going to err on the side of extra caution in their opinions of Covid, having had the bad experiences.

And to an earlier remark about mental and physical, yes, that is very true. My wife has remained depressed for over a year, combined with mental fog that is also typical of her illness. While an aggressive attempt to treat her depression might be in order, she hasn't been up to that effort either. It can be a vicious circle.
 
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