December General CBB Discussion Thread (Non-BE)

[superjohn]

Damn, that sucks our players don't get to develop this year too

I hate that.

 

[aceboon]

another Euro for Illinois

 

[JakeTheDog]

With that, I think if Uconn played Michigan right now, not sure it would be all that close. I do think it will be right there by end of year.

Not once did I say they wouldn't stand a chance.

But you did say that. And it’s UConn, not Uconn.

 

[JustbrewitMan]

Damn, that sucks our players don't get to develop this year too

Yea, Hurley teams have a strong track record of not improving as the year goes on. We also don’t seem to develop talent either.


/s

 

[JustbrewitMan]

another Euro for Illinois

Shame he wasn’t here when we played them. Would have been one more “-ic” we could have spanked

 

[RuffRuff]

Yea, Hurley teams have a strong track record of not improving as the year goes on. We also don’t seem to develop talent either.


/s

Yeah, that's what I said. My point was that AZ has two top ten kids, one that started slow. Another on the bench that is top 25. Those type of kids tend to have a lot of room for growth, like a Mullins does.

 

[Husky68]

I think they'd have won in Gampel flying across country midweek too.

I don't think they'd run AZ later this year on a neutral court once their frosh develop some. I'd call it a dead heat, with Michigan a cut above.

Just looked at Michigan schedule, seems they had a bit of trouble with Wake Forest and TCU. Looks like they get to play some pretty good teams the rest of the year. Question, if so good how many loses do you see, if any, for the rest of the regular season. Hard for a team in decent conference to lose less than 3 or 4, will they do better than that? Not a big fan of Massey on some of their stats but Massey has Michigan with 6.63 expected losses rest of year (has UConn 4.69 and Michigan State 6.25).

Massey rates Puke best team and Michigan 3rd and Arizona 2nd.

I'm not a real good judge of talent or Sanogo and Newton would be tearing up the NBA, but Michigan having more talent sure seems like a big statement with the guys UConn has. Last year Duke had some high 1st round picks and think all 5 starters got drafted, is Michigan talent that good.

 

[Rocktheworld]

The Head Coach has been the issue since Day 1

Listen, I loved Adrian Autry as a player. The '94 game vs. Missouri remains one of the all-time impressive performances by an SU player, even in a loss (the and-one that wasn't from the knees!). But I don't see how anyone can look at the situation we have and state they have ever felt that the...

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It was a Quad 3

Border of being a Quad 2. Bad loss, but not a season ender by any means. Why was the crowd dead until the final minute???

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Is there anything to be done that will make this team worth watching the rest of the season?

Autrys is cooked in my opinion but I also need to have a reason to watch Hoops this Winter. Just some thoughts but what do others think. -Can we get even more out of Kyle? He’s proven to be the best player on the court even against elite competition. He also just doesn’t foul. The coaches...

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Hofstra Postgame

NM

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Regardless of who you blame, does anyone think Autry is a good coach?

Every thread devolves into placing some blame elsewhere. The only question that really matters is Autry a good coach or even a mediocre coach? If your answer is yes then please share the things you believe he does well. For transparency, I think he is not a good coach and is in the bottom...

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Coach Search Options after Autry

Who should JW realistically look at? Probably looking hard at mid major HCs is my guess. Too risky to take an assistant and too cheap to lure away a big name coach.

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The Dome was empty...again. Where are the fans?

Saturday at 4pm. No bad weather, critically important game for the season and the place was empty. Been going to games for 30 plus years and never seen home games so lightly attended. Sad.

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[BGesus4]

For those saying they are going to register to post on syracusefan to talk trash, don't.

Anyone doing that is about 10 years too late

 

[upstater]

Why does Dylan Sinn of Indiana hate UConn so much? He has them the lowest in the rankings. He has Louisville ahead of them!

Is this because of Mullins?

 

[RuffRuff]

Just looked at Michigan schedule, seems they had a bit of trouble with Wake Forest and TCU. Looks like they get to play some pretty good teams the rest of the year. Question, if so good how many loses do you see, if any, for the rest of the regular season. Hard for a team in decent conference to lose less than 3 or 4, will they do better than that? Not a big fan of Massey on some of their stats but Massey has Michigan with 6.63 expected losses rest of year (has UConn 4.69 and Michigan State 6.25).

Massey rates Puke best team and Michigan 3rd and Arizona 2nd.

I'm not a real good judge of talent or Sanogo and Newton would be tearing up the NBA, but Michigan having more talent sure seems like a big statement with the guys UConn has. Last year Duke had some high 1st round picks and think all 5 starters got drafted, is Michigan talent that good.

Michigan has what is one of the two contestants for player of the year, and a fringe lottery pick. It then also has a first round rim protecting center. And a lot of talented and large "role" players after that. They have a McD AA coming off the bench, a former McD AA at PG. I've seen their PF mocked in the second round. SG is a big kid that shoots 40% from three.

 

[HooperScooper]

Just looked at Michigan schedule, seems they had a bit of trouble with Wake Forest and TCU. Looks like they get to play some pretty good teams the rest of the year. Question, if so good how many loses do you see, if any, for the rest of the regular season. Hard for a team in decent conference to lose less than 3 or 4, will they do better than that? Not a big fan of Massey on some of their stats but Massey has Michigan with 6.63 expected losses rest of year (has UConn 4.69 and Michigan State 6.25).

Massey rates Puke best team and Michigan 3rd and Arizona 2nd.

I'm not a real good judge of talent or Sanogo and Newton would be tearing up the NBA, but Michigan having more talent sure seems like a big statement with the guys UConn has. Last year Duke had some high 1st round picks and think all 5 starters got drafted, is Michigan talent that good.

Michigan is undefeated (10-0) with two wins over teams also in the Top 25 And 1 -- but the Wolverines won't play another currently ranked team until they meet Nebraska on Jan. 27. Arizona is undefeated (9-0) with three wins over teams also in the Top 25 And 1 -- but the Wildcats won't play another currently ranked team until they meet BYU on Jan. 26. Obviously, neither sentence guarantees anything because this is college basketball and goofy stuff happens in college basketball all of the time. But what those sentences at least suggest is that these two obvious title-contenders could keep zeros in the loss column and remain No. 1 and No. 2, in some order, in most human rankings deep into January.

Top 25 And 1: Michigan's run at No. 1 might last for a while

The Wolverines and Wildcats remain at the top of the CBS Sports Top 25 And 1

www.cbssports.com

 

[BugsyCT]

 

[Inyatkin]

Michigan has what is one of the two contestants for player of the year, and a fringe lottery pick. It then also has a first round rim protecting center. And a lot of talented and large "role" players after that. They have a McD AA coming off the bench, a former McD AA at PG. I've seen their PF mocked in the second round. SG is a big kid that shoots 40% from three.

Jeez this is so interesting I wish you’d made some of these points 10 times already

 

[controlfade]

Disagreeing with Ruff then arguing just feeds his desire to cause drama/stir the pot. You have to be the bigger person and just not respond, he will not stop.

 

[gtcam]

The disagreement is coming from the idea that it’d be a “mismatch” and that Michigan is “clearly more talented”. Do you remember saying those things?

No one is upset you think Michigan is good. We all think Michigan is good. You’re just on a UConn message board attempting to convince UConn fans that their top 5 team wouldn’t stand a chance. Read the room.

Michigan is tough. Could they run UConn out of the arena? Yes, Would they? highly unlikely. I dont see, right now, UConn running Michigan out of the arena but I do see them winning,

 

[thekollieman]

another Euro for Illinois

If college bball weren’t unprecedented levels of bonkers for several years running I’d think this is a joke meme.

 

[bendm]

Disagreeing with Ruff then arguing just feeds his desire to cause drama/stir the pot. You have to be the bigger person and just not respond, he will not stop.

Starting to think he is a Michigan Manchurian candidate that was just activated

 

[FlippinCrazy!]

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It's actually hysterical when the heads of the mafia come out pumping the pom poms when just about every outsider data point is consistently the same.

Being third here is ok yeah know. Still great odds. And I'm one that is in agreement that I think we can beat AZ on a neutral court if healthy. Michigan is another animal from a talent perspective.

Speaking of odds, those are great odds to get in on with UConn. Slightly lower than start of the year, but not by much (I believe they were +1200 to start the year?). Whatever the debate is with Michigan, I’ll take UConn, Arizona, or Duke at those odds over Michigan at +475

 

[RuffRuff]

Speaking of odds, those are great odds to get in on with UConn. Slightly lower than start of the year, but not by much (I believe they were +1200 to start the year?). Whatever the debate is with Michigan, I’ll take UConn, Arizona, or Duke at those odds over Michigan at +475

I'd take us on those odds too. I don't think you can underestimate the coaching & system factor. Our team this year is good enough to impose it, and teams simply don't see it anywhere else. It's not all that different than StM, simply with much better talent. The UF tourney game last year was a good example. That Florida team was so much better than last year's UConn team, yet the system almost won us that game (should have if we simply shot it mediocre).

Big variable is really whether Silas becomes TNewt-esque by end of year. He's been dreadful of late and we are still winning big games.

 

[RuffRuff]

Starting to think he is a Michigan Manchurian candidate that was just activated

My guy

Mike is no college hoops guru, but he's knowledgeable and breaks it down on a basic level. Yet for some reason it's offensive here.

 

[bendm]

My guy

it's just funny that you are compelled to advocate so vigorously for a team other than UConn on the boneyard. i havent seen anything like it in my 7 years here (shoutout @HuskyHawk.) yes this is a UConn message board so yes most are wearing blue tinted goggles whether they admit it or not. but why take it upon yourself to beat them all into submission? are you going to keep this up until the final four? you deserve a break it seems exhausting.

 

[Scot-e]

It is exhausting.

 

[Inyatkin]

"I post on a UConn board, and my responses are from a bunch of UConn fans!"

If you want to go spend your time on Generic College Sports Talk Daily, no one is stopping you

 

[Mr. French]

He did quote Mike Francesa so you know it’s good

 

[REB1094]

Lipscomb is taking it to Duke. Got blasted early and went down 10-0 but are on a 26-6 run. Up 10 after around 10 minutes

Forcing a lot of Duke turnovers and getting a lot of fast break points. Announcers are mentioning that’s how they like to play

This is fun!

 

[Jay-Bone]

Lipscomb is taking it to Duke. Got blasted early and went down 10-0 but are on a 26-6 run. Up 10 after around 10 minutes

Forcing a lot of Duke turnovers and getting a lot of fast break points. Announcers are mentioning that’s how they like to play

This is fun!

Lipscomb is not very good this year either.....

 

[Kolumbo]

Top 25 were feasting on weak OOC games tonight. Except for 20 Tennessee which feasted on 11 Louisville, and SJU which feasted on DePaul

 

[BFieldHusky]

Anyone catch the Field of 68 after Dark last night? All 3 guys, including Goodman (no Dauster) were glowing about UConn. Putting them up there with Michigan, saying that UConn may actually be the number one overall team. @RuffRuff would have been crushed.

 

[superjohn]

Anyone catch the Field of 68 after Dark last night? All 3 guys, including Goodman (no Dauster) were glowing about UConn. Putting them up there with Michigan, saying that UConn may actually be the number one overall team. @RuffRuff would have been crushed.

Yeah, I posted it in the Butler postgame thread.

As of a couple days ago Greg picked Arizona to win it all and I have full confidence Greg will pick UConn to win it all as the season goes on. RuffRuff is going to freak out because Greg really knows basketball.