Dec 12th Rankings [merged thread]

[Grad1990]

Oregon should have dropped all the way to 8th.

Is there any doubt that UConn would humiliate Oregon if they ended up playing each other in the playoffs?

Baylor, which will rightfully be ranked number 3 this week, should make for an interesting game in that it is likely to show that, once again, during the regular season, UConn is in a league of their own.

 

[CocoHusky]

Is there any doubt that UConn would humiliate Oregon if they ended up playing each other in the playoffs?

Yes!

 

[Plebe]

Oregon drops to #7.
Michigan State enters at #23.
Drake falls out.

 

[newfrontier]

Michigan State has a 6 point win over then #3 Oregon, a 4 point loss to #10 NC State and an 8-1 record overall and the best they get is a number 23 ranking?? If a team is 1-1 against top 10 teams and 7-0 against all others, a top 15 ranking or higher would seem in order.

Of course a team could be 0-2 against top 10 teams and be ranked #12. (see Texas)

 

[Alydar]

Michigan State has a 6 point win over then #3 Oregon, a 4 point loss to #10 NC State and an 8-1 record overall and the best they get is a number 23 ranking?? If a team is 1-1 against top 10 teams and 7-0 against all others, a top 15 ranking or higher would seem in order.

Of course a team could be 0-2 against top 10 teams and be ranked #12. (see Texas)

It is rare to see any team leap-frog over teams that won their games for the week. To move up others must lose. It ain't right in my mind but it is the way it works.

 

[Fightin Choke]

Texas lost a home game against Tennessee and not only did they retain their position, but Tennessee didn't change their ranking either. It's as if the game never happened...

 

[oldude]

Oregon has a lot of talent, but I've watched them impload in each of the past two NCAA tournaments against good teams. I have to wonder just how good a coach Kelly Graves really is.

 

[JordyG]

Texas lost a home game against Tennessee and not only did they retain their position, but Tennessee didn't change their ranking either. It's as if the game never happened...

That's the way I see it.

 

[JordyG]

Oregon has a lot of talent, but I've watched them impload in each of the past two NCAA tournaments against good teams. I have to wonder just how good a coach Kelly Graves really is.

We'll see after Ionescu leaves and he'll have to teach defense.

 

[paisan]

I believe Baylor is the most dangerous team we will face. It seems to me that their strengths fit our weaknesses. If Pheesa and Lou have to bang with the Baylor bigs, the fouls will impact us more than them.

 

[Grad1990]

I believe Baylor is the most dangerous team we will face. It seems to me that their strengths fit our weaknesses. If Pheesa and Lou have to bang with the Baylor bigs, the fouls will impact us more than them.

I agree....

But Baylor is not a match for UConn's Guard play or overall quickness.....as demonstrated in the ND game. Baylor does not match up well against UConn. Just imagine Brown or Cox having to guard Pheesa.

FORGET ABOUT IT!!!! Pheesa is going to have a field day while at the same time showing the WNBA GMs why she should be the top pick in next years draft.

I don't understand what it is that the UConn normally faithful are seeing in other teams this year and not seeing in UConn. UConn is not going to get seriously challenged until the final four, and only then because teams like ND, MS and Baylor will have had the advantage of being battle tested by much better competition then UConn faces in the month before the finals. And, maybe, not even then.

The chemistry, position skill and fit that the current UConn starting five has makes them a better team than the UConn teams of the past two years.

So, let's all enjoy another undefeated UConn season as it unfolds.

 

[oldude]

I believe Baylor is the most dangerous team we will face. It seems to me that their strengths fit our weaknesses. If Pheesa and Lou have to bang with the Baylor bigs, the fouls will impact us more than them.

Don’t forget. Baylor’s bigs have to cover our shooters all over the court. So in effect, our strengths fit their weaknesses as well.

One additional point, other than destroying a SC team that’s clearly struggling to find itself, the Lady Bears have not been all that impressive. They struggled with both ASU and South Dakota St. Other than the SC game, Baylor hasn’t gotten very much from their guards.

 

[Bama fan]

Texas lost a home game against Tennessee and not only did they retain their position, but Tennessee didn't change their ranking either. It's as if the game never happened...

Did you watch that game? It was almost like it never happened! Or maybe like it shouldn't have happened.

 

[paisan]

Don’t forget. Baylor’s bigs have to cover our shooters all over the court. So in effect, our strengths fit their weaknesses as well.

One additional point, other than destroying a SC team that’s clearly struggling to find itself, the Lady Bears have not been all that impressive. They struggled with both ASU and South Dakota St. Other than the SC game, Baylor hasn’t gotten very much from their guards.

I agree with your assessment . My fear is our tolerance for a few bad calls is razor thin.

 

[oldude]

I agree with your assessment . My fear is our tolerance for a few bad calls is razor thin.

That’s why I hope Batouly is healthy enough to bang with Baylor’s bigs for a few minutes. That gives 5 additional fouls to use if need be.

 

[DeeHusky]

As I stated in another thread, there are not a lot of good teams this year. After the top 8 teams, there is a significant drop off. I also said that Cal is not a top 13 team; I love Anigwe though. I think there are plenty teams better than Cal including Michigan State.

 

[DallasBUFan]

Don’t forget. Baylor’s bigs have to cover our shooters all over the court. So in effect, our strengths fit their weaknesses as well.

One additional point, other than destroying a SC team that’s clearly struggling to find itself, the Lady Bears have not been all that impressive. They struggled with both ASU and South Dakota St. Other than the SC game, Baylor hasn’t gotten very much from their guards.

Baylor struggled for the same Miss State did against Marquette. We are both two very post heavy teams. So when you get some guard oriented offenses it's hard for the bigs to stretch the floor and they all pack the paint. The thing BU has showed is when the guards are needed they step up. ASU is no slouch to play for your 3rd game of the first week of basketball. ASU is no.17 now and only has losses to two teams in top 4. With Louisville only winning by 2. Baylor is getting better with each game.

I mean don't forget about the St. Johns game.

 

[oldude]

As I stated in another thread, there are not a lot of good teams this year. After the top 8 teams, there is a significant drop off. I also said that Cal is not a top 13 team; I love Anigwe though. I think there are plenty teams better than Cal including Michigan State.

I might chop it off after the top 6.

 

[DeeHusky]

And as for Baylor, yea I do think they are a dangerous team, but they don’t scare me because in all the games that they’ve had, the team struggled to get the ball up the court with no true point guard. They don’t have any pure shooters and they’re really foul prone. They have way more weaknesses than UConn and they may have height, but it takes more than height to win. That’s been proven in all the elite 8 losses they’ve had. The best team that UConn will face, they’ve already played.

 

[Vowelguy]

Texas lost a home game against Tennessee and not only did they retain their position, but Tennessee didn't change their ranking either. It's as if the game never happened...

Yes but theres a huge gap between #11 & #12, while #12-13-14 are quite close.
Also, TX lost to a top 10 team. #14 Cal went to OT against unranked St Marys.

 

[LETTERL]

Michigan State has a 6 point win over then #3 Oregon, a 4 point loss to #10 NC State and an 8-1 record overall and the best they get is a number 23 ranking?? If a team is 1-1 against top 10 teams and 7-0 against all others, a top 15 ranking or higher would seem in order.

Of course a team could be 0-2 against top 10 teams and be ranked #12. (see Texas)

I've been kind of disappointed in NC State's OOC schedule thus far (as have some of the posters here on The Boneyard)...but the win over Michigan State now looks like it might be a signature win for the season.

 

[uconnbaseball]

Nah, Oregon is fine where they are. Westhead has really ramped up their defense this year, given they held Michigan State to only 88.

 

[southofnorth]

Texas lost a home game against Tennessee and not only did they retain their position, but Tennessee didn't change their ranking either. It's as if the game never happened...

In all fairness they were closely ranked (#9 for Tenn and #12 for Texas, I believe) and the game was close so I understand why neither team moved. That would be like Notre Dame beating Louisville and moving to number 1 when UConn also won its game(s) that week. Unless it were 100-25 or something ridiculous like that, there’d be no way that upward movement would happen when a team beats a team it was expected to beat.

 

[triaddukefan]

Drake falls out.

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[Vowelguy]

Drake to AP: "You used to call me on my cell phone."

 

[DefenseBB]

Here's the link for this weeks rankings:
2018-19 Women's College Basketball Rankings for Week 6 | ESPN

There a few things that perplex me and no, Oregon dropping only to #7, staying ahead of #8 OSU, their in-state rival is not one of them (though I am curious what our NW brethren have to say!). OSU (not to be confused with tOSU) still hasn't played anyone other than ND so they have to live with this for a bit.
#1. Why is Texas still at #12? This is a flawed team that maybe is a top 25 but NOT #12!
#2. California at #13? They have played NO ONE. I can't wait for the UConn game for a 25 point beat down at home to exposed this team.
#3. Arizona State at #17? They lost to Baylor and to Louisville, they are far better than Cal, better than Minn, Syracuse, Texas and dare I say it-Tennessee. This is 11-15 team at worst.
#4 quibble-Gonzaga at #21? They only lost to ND and unlike OSU, have played some descent teams at 9-1. Stanford, Rutgers and Wash. State are all descent P5 schools that should warrant some respect from the voters.

Thoughts from anyone?

 

[LoTrader]

I can only agree with everything you have written. In particular, Cal & ASU rankings are very wrong. ASU is playing great & demonstrated they are for real, and how did Cal ever great ranked in the top 25 in the first place? You are right, UCONN will fix this mis-ranking soon enough.

 

[PAHuskeyFan]

Here's the link for this weeks rankings:
2018-19 Women's College Basketball Rankings for Week 6 | ESPN

There a few things that perplex me and no, Oregon dropping only to #7, staying ahead of #8 OSU, their in-state rival is not one of them (though I am curious what our NW brethren have to say!). OSU (not to be confused with tOSU) still hasn't played anyone other than ND so they have to live with this for a bit.
#1. Why is Texas still at #12? This is a flawed team that maybe is a top 25 but NOT #12!
#2. California at #13? They have played NO ONE. I can't wait for the UConn game for a 25 point beat down at home to exposed this team.
#3. Arizona State at #17? They lost to Baylor and to Louisville, they are far better than Cal, better than Minn, Syracuse, Texas and dare I say it-Tennessee. This is 11-15 team at worst.
#4 quibble-Gonzaga at #21? They only lost to ND and unlike OSU, have played some descent teams at 9-1. Stanford, Rutgers and Wash. State are all descent P5 schools that should warrant some respect from the voters.

Thoughts from anyone?

Only thought is it's still WAAAAAAYYYYYY too early to get too excited about the rankings. Now if this was late February, there could be some reason to be concerned. All I know is UCONN is where it belongs!!!

 

[PAHuskeyFan]

Don’t forget. Baylor’s bigs have to cover our shooters all over the court. So in effect, our strengths fit their weaknesses as well.

One additional point, other than destroying a SC team that’s clearly struggling to find itself, the Lady Bears have not been all that impressive. They struggled with both ASU and South Dakota St. Other than the SC game, Baylor hasn’t gotten very much from their guards.

In addition to Baylor having to cover our shooters (4 or 5 capable from 3pt range), they will also have to run with our Gals...and after a handful of trips trying to get back on Defense, they are going to be going to the bench for oxygen.

 

[nwhoopfan]

Rutgers and Wash. State are all descent P5 schools

Not so sure about that, especially WSU. They should be near the bottom of the Pac 12 this year. GU is playing well and avoiding bad losses that plagued them the previous couple of seasons.


Rankings aren't real meaningful yet. I keep seeing complaints about where Cal is at, but they haven't lost so they keep rising. We'll find out quickly whether they are legit or not once conference play starts.