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Danny’s Decision’s Impact On Current And Future Players

Poe said:
Agreed. Contingency plan, yes, succession plan no.
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Yes. The contingency plan is to win national titles with Hurley running the show until he departs. Then we'll win national titles with his successor.
 
Great points made by everyone.

This public courting of Hurley by the Lakers can't hurt our brand (I hate using that term, but it's the most appropriate).

I'm sure when Danny goes to a gym to scout/recruit a player, the aura when he walks in would be palpable.
 
Huskyforlife said:
Hurleys future is 100% a question that will come up from recruits ready to commit going forward. It'll also be used against us in close recruiting battles. But there's worse problems to have, we could be spiraling right now.
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Many believe this whole ordeal as a positive. I agree with what you're saying. I think some recruits and potential returning players will wonder if Dan Hurley will jump to the NBA after they decide to to play for him.

Now with that said, I hope all the news of how coveted Hurley is, the opportunity to develop their game under Hurley and win will attract very good players who fit the program and culture. As long as Hurley explores future NBA opportunities earlier next time where players can decide to stay or leave and whatever successor has time to replace whoever decides to leave with talented transfers and recruits, our future might continue to shine. Having at least one of the coaches the players trust to continue what Hurley has done and who can help develop their game could help as well, but Hurley might end up taking one or two coaches with him.

I'm not sure what to expect next year and the ones that follow, but am hoping Hurley and staff keep the momentum going. Winning 3 in a row will probably help. :)
 
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I think this makes recruits less concerned he’ll leave. He just turned down Kentucky and the Lakers to stay. Maybe if the Knicks open up, but that doesn’t seem likely soon.
 
Fishy said:
Succession plans are a terrible idea.
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Really? Why is that? A succession plan will remove uncertainty at which time Danny does leave for a northeast NBA job. It helps in continuity of recruiting both transfers and 5* kids to play at a destination school. It lends stability so we all don’t go crazy like the past 5 days. It ensures that Danny has significant input into his replacement and keeps the current staff here. Explain why this is a bad idea.
 
Huskyforlife said:
Hurleys future is 100% a question that will come up from recruits ready to commit going forward. It'll also be used against us in close recruiting battles. But there's worse problems to have, we could be spiraling right now.
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This will also be used for us in recruiting battles, and will win some recruiting battles. “Oh such and such coach said he’d put you into the league? Well LeBron wanted me to coach the LA Lakers. Do you think that makes me a good judge and developer of talent? LeBron wanted me to draft and coach his son.”
 
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Will other coaches try telling recruits "you don't want to go to UConn, Hurley's leaving for the NBA as soon as the right franchise makes an offer."? Of course they will, negative recruiting has been around for as long as recruiting has been around. This shouldn't have much more impact than any other line coaches have tried over the past couple years.

There are a couple methods to combating this specific topic when other coaches try to use it to influence recruits against us:

1 - The head coach can be honest and straightforward, using a history of integrity to convince the recruit that regardless of what happens he will be upfront with everyone. The way Dan Hurley has pretty much handled everything so far.

2 - The head coach can take the sleazy, used car salesman approach, telling everyone what he thinks they want to hear, believing that selling BS that you have no real intention of honoring is the way to do things; kind of like Pitino and Calipari.

For either to work, the person employing the methodology has to be able to do so while remaining himself for it to work. Fortunately for the three examples I mentioned each can take the approach I linked then to while remaining themselves.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
Will other coaches try telling recruits "you don't want to go to UConn, Hurley's leaving for the NBA as soon as the right franchise makes an offer."? Of course they will, negative recruiting has been around for as long as recruiting has been around. This shouldn't have much more impact than any other line coaches have tried over the past couple years.

There are a couple methods to combating this specific topic when other coaches try to use it to influence recruits against us:

1 - The head coach can be honest and straightforward, using a history of integrity to convince the recruit that regardless of what happens he will be upfront with everyone. The way Dan Hurley has pretty much handled everything so far.

2 - The head coach can take the sleazy, used car salesman approach, telling everyone what he thinks they want to hear, believing that selling BS that you have no real intention of honoring is the way to do things; kind of like Pitino and Calipari.

For either to work, the person employing the methodology has to be able to do so while remaining himself for it to work. Fortunately for the three examples I mentioned each can take the approach I linked then to while remaining themselves.
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I can’t see a scenario where Kentucky can beat UConn in a head to head recruiting battle as long as Hurley is here. He was Kentucky’s choice, not Pope. And recruits will know that. Kentucky thought Danny was a better choice to lead their program. How do you overcome that?
 
Fishy said:
Succession plans are a terrible idea.
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nomar said:
Mike Hopkins and the 5 consecutive titles he’s won at Syracuse in an alternate universe say otherwise.

But really, has one ever actually worked? I mean a pre-announced one.
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I'm for the have a plan but no need to tell the world about it. Whether it's officially called a succession plan or if AD DB has a list of known fill-ins should Hurley leave is a distinction without a difference to me.
 
Hunt for 7 said:
I think Clingan was labeled a project when he came to UConn. So there is that.
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I think the only people who labeled Clingan a 13th scholarship development type player were a few dolts on the Boneyard. He was rated the consensus #37 recruit in the 2022 class. While he wasn't expected to start over Sanogo, he was certainly expected to contribute his freshman year.
 
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Haven't read the replies yet but there's a clear succession plan with Luke and/or Kimani you can pitch. And I'm not even sure there's much need to pitch that anyway. He turned down the Lakers and Kentucky this off-season, the list of more desirable jobs is very small
 
I think this whole situation can end up being a positive or a negative depending on how each individual recruit ends up viewing it.

Hurley can say to recruits: "Look, I turned down Kentucky and the Lakers to stay here. I turned down two of the most historic teams in basketball to coach UConn, I'm 100% committed to this program."

Opposing coaches will say: "Hurley can leave at any moment as his goal clearly is to coach in the NBA. You don't want to deal with that kind of uncertainty."
 
GoConn said:
I think Hurley will be around for at least 5 more seasons.
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I think Hurley will be around for as long as the Knicks and Celtics jobs are filled. Just being blatantly honest about how I will view things going forward. I think a lot of us here dismissed the NBA talk in the past, but now I would go so far as to say that it's more likely than not Dan Hurley will leave for an NBA job sooner or later.
 
How is a "succession plan" any different than the desperation mode replacement ideas of the last few days?
 
Chin Diesel said:
I'm for the have a plan but no need to tell the world about it. Whether it's officially called a succession plan or if AD DB has a list of known fill-ins should Hurley leave is a distinction without a difference to me.
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Hurley will be tossed at least a couple times this year. Whoever takes over will likely be the heir apparent if a quick internal hire is needed.
 
If players want /need money as a first priority there are many schools who can out recruit us UK included. But head to head all things being equal I like our chances ( money first players are not Danny’s thing anyway So there is that as well).
 
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jibsey said:
The current guys will be more motivated if possible and the new recruits and transfer portal guys will be very relieved. Uncertainty resolved.
Future recruits know everybody wants him because he’s so much better than other coaches but I just wonder if they will question it maybe happening again from year to year as other NBA teams try this on.
Some coaches say they are not going anywhere and promise to be there. Of course no one can promise it.
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When you have the best college coach in the country, you just need to accept that this will always be a potential issue. Look at it this way, would you rather have a coach no one wants?
 
I think it was a stressful few days that ultimately means nothing except maybe improved uconns offer to Hurley. Don’t think it helps or hurts us with recruiting. Don’t think it makes Hurley more or less likely to go to the nba in the future.

Knowing what we know about how Hurley has acted about changing jobs in the past and just his personality, I don’t believe he was ever close to leaving. He was doing media right up until the day the story broke acting all in on the 3 peat. The Billy Joel video. I think he saw a chance to help his negotiating with UConn and figured he’d hear the lakers out. Now if the right job opens up at the right time i could certainly see him leaving but that was true before this saga. There’s also a scenario where the timing is never right. I don’t think he’s an absolute lock for a northeast job as soon as they open up
 
Fishy said:
Succession plans are a terrible idea.
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Public succession plans are a terrible idea. Either your candid is tepid or he gets poached.

On the other hand, Benedict knows that Hurley will leave for the right NBA opportunity. He should have a short list of candidates to replace him, and have thought about the pros and cons of elevating existing staff. I'm sure he does.
 
TheHorde said:
I can’t see a scenario where Kentucky can beat UConn in a head to head recruiting battle as long as Hurley is here. He was Kentucky’s choice, not Pope. And recruits will know that. Kentucky thought Danny was a better choice to lead their program. How do you overcome that?
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With more money. Duh.
 
CL82 said:
On the other hand, Benedict knows that Hurley will leave for the right NBA opportunity. He should have a short list of candidates to replace him, and have thought about the pros and cons of elevating existing staff. I'm sure he does.
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If I were an opposing coach in a recruiting battle, I would stress the idea that Hurley may not stick around for a recruit's college career due to Hurley's NBA aspirations. I'm glad that Hurley stayed but this Laker flirtation has opened up that scenario.
 
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We don’t need a Duke or Kentucky roster but we need the right coaches to keep this thing going, and we have them. Though Donovan and Stephan are projecting near the top of the draft now, I give the credit for that to the staff’s development not the McD number.
 
The only succession plan I've ever seen succeed was one where the person being succeeded wasn't aware of the plan until it was implemented.

It was kind of similar to Phil Jackson being promoted to succeed Doug Collins (who had no idea his job was in jeopardy prior to his dismissal). It did however remove someone who was a bit too much of a beaurocrat and allow an entire staff to thrive.

A situation like that couldn't happen with what we have here.
 
businesslawyer said:
With more money. Duh.
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You’re still not buying into the UConn mission statement huh? Danny will quickly weed the candidates out who can’t see the forest through the trees and are chasing an extra $500K or a million now at the expense of millions later.
 
Fishy said:
Succession plans are a terrible idea.
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Formal ones yes; terrible idea. Not good for morale. Private plans: everyone has some kind of succession plan but they just don't tell anybody. Keeping ones options open. Being a good manager means always having backup plans for as many things as possible. It kind of shocks people when you "pull one out of the hat" and immediately implement it (and you explain to them the theory behind backup plans).
 
Luna said:
I think it’s going to help our brand and recruiting…I also think it’s going to help the big east with our tv contract negotiations
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UConn better get its fair share of the pie. I wouldn’t trust Val running the only water stand in the desert. Totally incompetent lightweight.
 
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