If Daniels goes I hope he gets drafted in a good place for him, makes a ton of money playing in the NBA. If he comes back I hope he goes out a back to back NC and gets drafted by the NBA and makes a ton of money. Same with Boat, though he has a harder road. Daniels could go higher next year just bc it looks like a weaker draft depending on who comes out this year, it could be the difference between a first and second round pick. Boat probably will never be a first round pick, but coming back could mean a second round draft position
Daniels to Draft?? AAU Coach says he's gone
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I have no idea about either player, but I have a feeling they both return. Between the two, I thought RB elevated his overall level of play during the NCAAs but at sub-6 feet he would greatly benefit from NBA teams seeing him play at this level for a full season.
As for DD, he had some big time NBA type shots like the step-back-fade-away, but his overall shooting was still inconsistent and his body is still very much tweener in nature. He really improved his rebounding during the tourney as well. Another season to add 15 or more pounds and some more consistent scoring and rebounding will go a long way in elevating him into the upper half of the first round IMO.
As for DD, he had some big time NBA type shots like the step-back-fade-away, but his overall shooting was still inconsistent and his body is still very much tweener in nature. He really improved his rebounding during the tourney as well. Another season to add 15 or more pounds and some more consistent scoring and rebounding will go a long way in elevating him into the upper half of the first round IMO.
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Have you heard of Terrance Samuel?
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I hope he sticks around, but I'm sure KO & company will guide him in the right direction.
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Well of course... but hes more of an off guard than a true pg... one of the main reasons for our success this year was that we had 2 elite ball handlers. Without boat im not sold we have one.
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I agree that Boat is more important to the team bc of his ball handling skills, speed and d. But, you're wrong about TSam. He's absolutely not an off guard. He's a ball handler. I would love both of those guys on the floor....as ball handlers.
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I'd like to see Daniels come back, put on a little more muscle, if his body type allows it, and spend a whole season playing the way he plays in the post season. I think those two things will help him make the jump to the next level successfully. Again, whatever he decides I support him.
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What Terrance Samuel are you watching? The Terrance Samuel I know is just about as close you can get to a prototypical "NYC" point guard. He is first and foremost a ball handler, penetrator, distributor, defender, and team floor general that looks to primarily create for others.
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Absolutely. The kid just wreaks of NY toughness. Loved his game all tourney, he certainly wasn't afraid of the moment when we needed minutes from him. He doesn't hesitate to take it to the rack (brooklyn style), and I fell in love with his handle.. overall, I think he made smart decisions with the ball, and I feel comfortable with him running the point when need be.. (Hopefully after Boatright runs the team, then turns it over to Samuel, etc)
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If DD can get drafted he should go, otherwise spend the offseason working with Balis to get stronger.
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What better person to advise if ready or not than KO? This is a guy that stuck around on smarts and 10 day contracts and is so respected that he mentored some of the current greats of the game.
I may be in denial, but I don't see either leaving. As a PG, you need to be the leader of your college team before you'll ever be anointed the leader of an NBA team. Deandre's weakness is his weakness. Inconsistency, and what appears to be a slight lack of confidence, also points to needing another year. Finally, DD is a tweener, so he needs to cause teams to view that as an asset they can build around, rather than a deficiency. Would love to see him dominate on the court next year, be unstoppable on offense and make NBA teams drool over the possibilities.
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Boat will be back. I think he realizes that another year with him running the show can only help him. DeAndre should return and be a star all season long. He makes plays that nobody else in college makes, he just needs to impose his will on the game more consistently. If they both return, this team would be scary good once they all click. Starting lineup would probably be Boat, Purvis, DHam, DD and Brimah with TSam, Nolan, Facey, Cassel Jr and Lubin off the bench. And if Omar returns to form... wow.
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Terrence is very reminiscent of two prior point guards for the Huskies: Taliek Brown and Kevin Ollie. KO must think he's looking in a mirror - can't think of a better guy to coach him. Give Terrence some range on his jump shot and look out.
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What? Samuel is the closest thing to a true PG on the team, including Bazz. Both Boat and Bazz are scoring guards with a handle (due to size in part). Samuel is in the mold of Taliek, a strong, pass it or drive it point guard.
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You're right about the KO reference. Ever since he signed his LOI, Ollie has said that Terrence reminds him of himself as a player.
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I hate to be a pessimist, but he's not ready to come out yet. I don't think he'll ever be a starter in the NBA regardless. If scouts watch the first 30 games of the season, he's just an ordinary player. Players with real NBA size can shut him down at the 3, and no way he can cover a legit NBA 4 (talking Lamarcus Aldridge, Lebron James, Kevin Love, Blake Griffin). You're lying to yourself if you think he's that good. I know that they draft on potential, and for Deandre, if his stock is really at an all time high then it's probably smart for him to leave, but he's really not that good, especially compared to the top players in this draft. I really don't want to see him end up in the D-league and then overseas like a lot of players that declare early do; he's too good of a kid for that.
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You're obviously not a Hungry Husky
I honestly don't get the leaving early if you aren't a clear cut top of the line college player. Look at Michigan: Nick Stauskas and Glenn Robinson III declared. Really? Does Beilein sleep well at night knowing these kids would be better off staying in school? Obviously the agents are in these kids' ears, but they need to look long-term, not the initial POTENTIAL contract.
DD would be better off staying in school, playing 40 min a game and improving in all facets than playing 5 min MAYBE in the NBA next year with most likely stints in the D league. Dominate the college game before thinking you're ready for the next level. He grew up postseason, but this is the same kid that averaged 5.5 PPG down the stretch of the regular season.
Boatright, I don't think there's a question what he needs to do.
DD would be better off staying in school, playing 40 min a game and improving in all facets than playing 5 min MAYBE in the NBA next year with most likely stints in the D league. Dominate the college game before thinking you're ready for the next level. He grew up postseason, but this is the same kid that averaged 5.5 PPG down the stretch of the regular season.
Boatright, I don't think there's a question what he needs to do.
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Stauskas is a top 20 pick and could go higher based on workouts because his skill level will really shine there, he should go. As for GR3, he's kind of similar to DD except without the high level play in a championship stretch run. He's shown flashes of brilliance but he's been way too inconsistent, does he come back and show the same pattern of uneven play and run the risk of scouts souring on him after another year of not living up to potential? He's a borderline 1st rounder, I don't blame him for giving it a go and trying to secure a 1st round spot, Tim Hardaway Jr did the same thing last year, he wasn't a 1st round lock when he declared but he worked his way there.
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The way I see it, DD is a victim of his own success in the tourney… Pro teams may think he has turned a corner, where as if he comes back & reverts to his inconsistent play (a real possibility), his stock will go down.
Unfortunately, I think it's too much of a risk for him to come back…
Hope I'm wrong...
Unfortunately, I think it's too much of a risk for him to come back…
Hope I'm wrong...
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I disagree. You are who you are. If you are turning into a great player, you will have the work ethic to get better and better everyday. If that work ethic isn't there, in anything you do, it's not going to work out long term. Playing under Ollie another year with the guidance and knowledge of the NBA that he can instill in DD (that I believe he needs) will do wonders for his career.
It's better than travelling around city to city, not getting better, not getting PT, not getting a college degree and getting weeded out in the league after your rookie deal is up.
Yes, he would run the risk of getting injured coming back, but it's best long-term to return to school for his senior year. This isn't a shot at DD, but it's not like he was one of the best players in the country this year. He showed signs, but he needs to work on consistency if he's gonna make it at the next level. Coming back will do that.
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The problem is, signing a Pro rookie deal is still a life changing payday. A 3 year rookie deal in 2013 for a mid-round pick equates to $4.5M.
It's a big risk coming back with the chance that his stock could take a hit & push him out of the first round, or worse...
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Scouts will watch everything, but it's the peak performances that tell them what a player can do. It's much easier to raise your mediocre performances than to raise your peak performance.
Deandre proved in the tourney that he could score against guys with real NBA size and athleticism. Nobody shut him down, and he was able to get his shot off and hit a high percentage even when closely guarded by future NBA athletes.
How well he can cover is his problem, but he went a long way toward answering that this season. In the NBA, the concern is, he may not be big or strong enough to defend the 4 or quick enough to defend the 3, so he's without a position. But, against that view, he was impressive defensively in the tourney. He's done a great job covering big men all year. He wasn't getting pushed around much. He's skinny but not weak. He's become a smart defender.
Another year in college would clarify what he is for the NBA. I don't think it would change his draft position much. He deserves to go late first round but you never know, it's a question of fit and NBA team needs. If there are less talented players who fit a role in an NBA team's style, they may go for them over Deandre.
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