Dan Hurley Gone ..!!!

[Improviser]

Not true

There is a famous instance where Billy Tubbs - after much crowd display and active ref technicals - got on the arena microphone and said: "No matter how bad the referees are, we are Oklahoma and we should act in a way we should be proud of" ... and they gave him a Technical for that.

Unlike Tubbs, Hurley did not get on a microphone, a gesture done to express is frustration with the technicals, and to inflame the Refs and stir up the crowd.

If you are a Ref whether a fair or unfair Ref, you have no other choice than to T up the coach.

Hurley raised his hands up. No microphone. If he swore at the ref or said something to the Ref, I am not aware of it.

 

[CL82]

Not true

There is a famous instance where Billy Tubbs - after much crowd display and active ref technicals - got on the arena microphone and said: "No matter how bad the referees are, we are Oklahoma and we should act in a way we should be proud of" ... and they gave him a Technical for that.

Arguably that wasn’t hyping the crowd. He got tied up for trying to calm down the crowd.

 

[Pudge]

Unlike Tubbs, Hurley did not get on a microphone, a gesture done to express is frustration with the technicals, and to inflame the Refs and stir up the crowd.

If you are a Ref whether a fair or unfair Ref, you have no other choice than to T up the coach.

Hurley raised his hands up. No microphone. If he swore at the ref or said something to the Ref, I am not aware of it.

I have watched a lot of basketball. UCONN level sure. TV and in person. Loads of HS hoop as my family had this little green sectional card in NYS that gave us free access to any game. Summer leagues. Small small college ball. Girls.

There should be no expectation that any Ref won't T you up for what Danny Hurley did the other night. It is just enough to have one guy say ... he's gone. And yes, I could see a CYO ref in 1975 doing the same thing. I don't like it. Blessing got universally dismissed. I expect I will see that again. Particularly now that Underwood has repeated it within days.

 

[CL82]

Unlike Tubbs, Hurley did not get on a microphone, a gesture done to express is frustration with the technicals, and to inflame the Refs and stir up the crowd.

If you are a Ref whether a fair or unfair Ref, you have no other choice than to T up the coach.

Hurley raised his hands up. No microphone. If he swore at the ref or said something to the Ref, I am not aware of it.

Disagree. Breeding had let it become personal. That’s exactly what he should not be doing.

 

[HooperScooper]

Also, I’ve been to lots of basketball games in my life. I can’t say I have seen a coach do quite what he did. I’ve seen coaches stamp and break clip boards and all manner of thing, but Turing to the crowd and encouraging them to get more abusive? Nope.

I'm not sure why I'm replying to you but I couldn't resist. Sometimes you make up stuff trying to prove a point. Stop lying just to support your arguments.

You've never seen that before? Seriously? It happened just last night. Someone already posted it above but here you go. Unfortunately Underwood had already gotten his 2nd technical. Would have been interesting to see what those refs did if there was only 1 technical before he did that.

 

[Improviser]

Disagree. Breeding had let it become personal. That’s exactly what he should not be doing.

I was in no way defending Breeding.

When I said the Ref had no choice, my statement referred to Tubbs' conduct, based on Tubbs' addressing the audience on the mike. This seemed to be a flouting of the referees as he made clear in his address to the fans.

I do not agree with Breeding's call against Hurley.

 

[freescooter]

He was trying to get them to boo? Dude high fived Cole, smiled, and turned around and raised his arms to pump the crowd up.

Yeah, that just exuded vibes of “Boo this man.” I guess that’s why literally everyone immediately started cheering. They must have missed Hurley’s calculated message. Don’t be ridiculous.

The crowd was booing the first T and booing Gillespie. And honestly that was fine. No problem. Then Hurley decided to be a cheerleader. He absolutely was trying to show up the refs. I would hope they look the other way. Problem is he had earned the reputation as a jerk. So they won’t.

Biggest game of the year and he got to watch most of it on FS1. Fortunately Kimani was cool and professional down the stretch. Pulled the guys together down 5 when it looked sort of bleak. Jackson, in particular looked beaten. I though Kimani did a great job.

 

[Waquoit]

You may be thinking of Michigan. I've seen a couple references to it. UConn was #15 at the time in 2010

Nope. UNC. When D'oh was coaching.

 

[freescooter]

I'm not sure why I'm replying to you but I couldn't resist. Sometimes you make up stuff trying to prove a point. Stop lying just to support your arguments.

You've never seen that before? Seriously? It happened just last night. Someone already posted it above but here you go. Unfortunately Underwood had already gotten his 2nd technical. Would have been interesting to see what those refs did if there was only 1 technical before he did that.

Ok now I’ve seen it twice. Didn’t see that particular game. And I guess yeah, after being tossed I have seen it as a guy is heading out. But it is a different situation after a guy is already gone, too. Nothing much to risk. But sure you can probably find an example of anything. I mean years ago I saw , Lefty Driesel get 3 Ts. Well officially only 2 but he refused to go so they called another, this time on the Maryland bench. So sure crazy stuff happens.

 

[WhereistheDove?]

The crowd was booing the first T and booing Gillespie. And honestly that was fine. No problem. Then Hurley decided to be a cheerleader. He absolutely was trying to show up the refs. I would hope they look the other way. Problem is he had earned the reputation as a jerk. So they won’t.

Biggest game of the year and he got to watch most of it on FS1. Fortunately Kimani was cool and professional down the stretch. Pulled the guys together down 5 when it looked sort of bleak. Jackson, in particular looked beaten. I though Kimani did a great job.

You're really doubling down on this. The funny thing is Kimani hyped up the crowd in the second half with the exact same motion (and the crowd gave the exact same reaction, which was not abuse, it was cheering). I feel like you were just watching a completely different game than the rest of us.

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

The idea that Hurley was "encouraging the crowd to be more abusive" on the second technical foul is so unbelievably dumb and at odds with reality it's silly to even engage with it. Consider the source.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Ever time I see this thread title I have to remind myself that he hasn’t left UConn to coach Duke, or the Knicks. Can we let this die and drop off page one?

 

[Improviser]

Hurley coaching the Knicks?

Since Pat Riley and Jeff Van Gundy, they've spun the carousel and tried every other coach from the venerable Lenny Wilkins to Don Nelson to Thibs? Had a good year out of Mike Woodson.

Could they do worse?

Just not yet. He needs a few more years here.

 

[Travelman6]

NOT saying I agree with this (I don't), but apparently, this is the rule the refs could point to, to justify Hurley's second T....

“The coach shall respect and support contest officials. The coach shall not indulge in conduct which would incite players or spectators against the officials. Public criticism of officials or players is unethical.”

Thoughts?

 

[Improviser]

Where does this rule come from? Is it in a Ref's Rulebook promulgated by the NCAA?

If that is the Rule, how can Hurley's waving his arms to get the crowd to cheer, be an incitement to disrespect officials?

If he gave a thumbs down sign and then raised his hands, you could maybe correlate the 2 events, but this is hypothetical since Hurley gave no thumbs down gesture or any other finger gesture.

 

[husky429]

NOT saying I agree with this (I don't), but apparently, this is the rule the refs could point to, to justify Hurley's second T....

“The coach shall respect and support contest officials. The coach shall not indulge in conduct which would incite players or spectators against the officials. Public criticism of officials or players is unethical.”

Thoughts?

There's a rule where "by the book" a ref could eject a coach under basically any circumstance.

The issue is, of course, enforcement. Coaches do this stuff all the time with impunity. Hurley had no reasonable reason to think he'd be ejected.

 

[Kathy]

The refs may have interpreted it that way because of how quickly it followed the T.