Dallas is becoming the epicenter of the AAC

[Stainmaster]

Right Icebus. Sorry I do not get that reference. Hard rock not my thing. I played D1 ( high major) know recruiting and recruits (involved with Oakland Soldiers) and only speak on what I know not what I want to believe. Recruits don't care for the AAC, specifically as it applies to UConn. Houston yes, SMU yes, Memphis yes, 3 star kids in those regions see programs on the rise and know they can contribute. UConn is different, or should be. But you continue to believe all is well in the AAC and keep on rockin dude.

We were still in the AAC when the conference HQ was parked in Providence...how does the relocation of a few administrative office suites from there to Dallas materially change anything for UConn athletics?

 

[olehead]

Repeat after me.

No recruit cares whether the HQ of the conference is located in Providence, RI or Dallas, TX.

We are still in the AAC and stuck dealing with its limitations regardless of where the HQ is.

Look stainmaster and friends, unbunch your panties. You are right, the location of a conferences' hdqtrs means nothing to recruits. I do not recall ever factoring it in my recruitment process. Nevertheless, conference relocation has significance relative to what's in the best interest of the conference. UConn men's basketball has failed the AAC as its crowning jewel and now the conference will hitch its wagon to the mid-south schools within the conference.

Hdqtrs, in many cases is the locus for operations for an organization and the site is strategically selected for a sound business purpose. Facebook hdqtrs is in Silicon Valley rather than Austin or LA or NYC b/c it allows for them to focus on entities important to them, including tech. vendors, VC firms, start-ups, all of which are plentiful and easily accessible w/in Silicon Valley. Though NYC could work for Facebook, their focus isn't finance or law, it's tech. and their bottom line currently dictates they remain in Silicon Valley. Comparatively, the AAC and Aresco have decided its in their best interest to relocate to a region of the country, near schools w/in that region, that provide the best opportunity for conference success.

So no, recruits don't look at the location of the conference headquarters, but the AAC move implies a deemphasis on UConn and the clout we had going into this league. This deemphasis may result in continued growth of Mid-South programs, including the programs along the I-35 corridor, and an increase in their marketability regionally. The result, continued diminishment of our Men's program all for the crapshoot of a P5 bid with a football program seeking to gain it's footing as a solid D-1 program.

 

[olehead]

Huh?

Recruits. Don't. Know. The. AAC. Got it.

 

[StunningSteve]

You're with the Oakland Soldiers, olehead? Isn't that where James Akinjo came out of? Conference affiliation never seemed to be an issue for him when he committed to UConn. Or any of the other highly rated guys, like Alterique, signed in the last few years. Didn't bother Sid last yr.
This is really a dumb campaign you are on. Let Dan Hurley do his job.

 

[businesslawyer]

Businesslawyer enough. Don't want to hear a peep from you if we end up with a losing record and continue to struggle w/ recruiting.

What is wrong with your logic. Let's map out your position. UConn recruiting isn't what you want it to be. The AAC is moving its conference offices to Dallas. Thus, UConn recruiting sucks because we're moving the conference offices to Dallas. That is not how logic works.

Or "I'm mad we're losing so I get to blame whatever I feel like."

 

[Waquoit]

Let's be totally honest. The conference was built as a Frankenstein, with salvaged parts. At that time, UConn was the name in hoops. The were the main attraction on TV and at road games. The conference kissed up to them because they were openly trying to leave.

How did the conference kiss up to UConn? On the contrary, UConn got lousy conference schedules date/time-wise because they were the only decent draw in the league.

 

[HuskyHawk]

JEOPARDY: Schools in the AAC representing the remnant in the Old Big East.

Who are USF, Cincy and UCONN?

Nah. USF and Cinci are from the Big East 2.0, not the "old" original Big East. WVU, Miami and Louisville are not "old" Big East either. Nor are Marquette and DePaul.

 

[BlueMAB]

Recruits. Don't. Know. The. AAC. Got it.

Thanks for the hot take, we've been waiting 6 years for someone to point out we're in a crappy conference.

 

[BlueMAB]

Look stainmaster and friends, unbunch your panties. You are right, the location of a conferences' hdqtrs means nothing to recruits. I do not recall ever factoring it in my recruitment process. Nevertheless, conference relocation has significance relative to what's in the best interest of the conference. UConn men's basketball has failed the AAC as its crowning jewel and now the conference will hitch its wagon to the mid-south schools within the conference.

Hdqtrs, in many cases is the locus for operations for an organization and the site is strategically selected for a sound business purpose. Facebook hdqtrs is in Silicon Valley rather than Austin or LA or NYC b/c it allows for them to focus on entities important to them, including tech. vendors, VC firms, start-ups, all of which are plentiful and easily accessible w/in Silicon Valley. Though NYC could work for Facebook, their focus isn't finance or law, it's tech. and their bottom line currently dictates they remain in Silicon Valley. Comparatively, the AAC and Aresco have decided its in their best interest to relocate to a region of the country, near schools w/in that region, that provide the best opportunity for conference success.

So no, recruits don't look at the location of the conference headquarters, but the AAC move implies a deemphasis on UConn and the clout we had going into this league. This deemphasis may result in continued growth of Mid-South programs, including the programs along the I-35 corridor, and an increase in their marketability regionally. The result, continued diminishment of our Men's program all for the crapshoot of a P5 bid with a football program seeking to gain it's footing as a solid D-1 program.

Or.

UConn gets back to winning ways behind a quality coach and renders your entire argument moot.

The conference "deempahsising" UConn is one of the dumbest things I've read here in awhile. As if Mike Aresco saying "the conference really cares about UConn" is going to do absolutely anything to move the needle.

Just stop.

 

[Madmannsucks]

How did the conference kiss up to UConn? On the contrary, UConn got lousy conference schedules date/time-wise because they were the only decent draw in the league.

How...how many conference tourneys did they host? Why Hartford? Because they were the name team.

 

[olehead]

You're with the Oakland Soldiers, olehead? Isn't that where James Akinjo came out of? Conference affiliation never seemed to be an issue for him when he committed to UConn. Or any of the other highly rated guys, like Alterique, signed in the last few years. Didn't bother Sid last yr.
This is really a dumb campaign you are on. Let Dan Hurley do his job.

He signed b/c of Ollie, where is he now? Sid originally signed w/ UConn? St. John's is the seaboard version of DePaul, who wouldn't jump ship?

 

[Hans Sprungfeld]

What?

You wrote that "soon enough" we'd be battling Fairfield and CCSU for in-state relevance regarding basketball. I found that preposterous, unless you had a clearer statement if what you meant by "soon."

Possibly reckless statements about basketball reduce the credibility of your statements regarding football.

Do you understand now?

 

[olehead]

What is wrong with your logic. Let's map out your position. UConn recruiting isn't what you want it to be. The AAC is moving its conference offices to Dallas. Thus, UConn recruiting sucks because we're moving the conference offices to Dallas. That is not how logic works.

Or "I'm mad we're losing so I get to blame whatever I feel like."

Not logical enough Businesslawyer? Sorry counselor. I don't like the losing but not mad. I recognize our current conference affiliation has a lot to do w/ the current state of our program. I'm hopeful Hurley can turn it around. He has a hell of an uphill battle.

 

[olehead]

You wrote that "soon enough" we'd be battling Fairfield and CCSU for in-state relevance regarding basketball. I found that preposterous, unless you had a clearer statement if what you meant by "soon."

Possibly reckless statements about basketball reduce the credibility of your statements regarding football.

Do you understand now?

Gotcha.

 

[Hans Sprungfeld]

Nah. USF and Cinci are from the Big East 2.0, not the "old" original Big East. WVU, Miami and Louisville are not "old" Big East either. Nor are Marquette and DePaul.

Or Notre Dame.

 

[Da_Aisijimo_Gou]

Nah. USF and Cinci are from the Big East 2.0, not the "old" original Big East. WVU, Miami and Louisville are not "old" Big East either. Nor are Marquette and DePaul.

Or Notre Dame.

Nor were Rutgers, Pitt and Villanova included in the original 1979-80 Big East
(7 initial members: UCONN, Georgetown, Seton Hall, st johns, syracuse, pc, bcu)

 

[HuskyHawk]

Nor were Rutgers, Pitt and Villanova included in the original 1979-80 Big East
(7 initial members: UCONN, Georgetown, Seton Hall, st johns, syracuse, pc, bcu)

Villanova is considered a "charter member" although they technically joined a year later. They had the invite. There was some other reason they couldn't play in the league that first year. Pitt was next in 1982.

Miami, VT, WVU, Temple and Rutgers were the main initial football conference expansion in 1991. So that's probably 2.0. Then version 3.0 was the replacements for the ACC and Big 12 departures, in 2005. Version 3.0 if you will. I don't really consider those schools Big East schools.

 

[Da_Aisijimo_Gou]

Villanova is considered a "charter member" although they technically joined a year later. They had the invite. There was some other reason they couldn't play in the league that first year. Pitt was next in 1982.

Holy Cross and Rutgers also had initial invitations, but like Nova opted out. Rutgers and Nova wanted to stick with the Atlantic 8, then reconsidered. Nova may be generously referenced as charter members by some, e.g., Nova itself, but like Rutgers and 1/2 pregnancies: traditionally no play, no possible member.

 

[DFW HOYA]

Founding schools: PC, Georgetown, Syracuse, St. John's
Next: UConn (Dave Gavitt called UC the "sleeping giant")
Holy Cross declined, when its president said that the Crusaders "were not in the entertainment business." BC gladly accepted. and Holy Cross has not made the AP Top 25 since.
Rutgers declined, in came the Hall.
Villanova wanted in but had a one year termination clause to leave the Eastern 8 and thus are not an original team.

 

[UConnNick]

Look stainmaster and friends, unbunch your panties. You are right, the location of a conferences' hdqtrs means nothing to recruits. I do not recall ever factoring it in my recruitment process. Nevertheless, conference relocation has significance relative to what's in the best interest of the conference. UConn men's basketball has failed the AAC as its crowning jewel and now the conference will hitch its wagon to the mid-south schools within the conference.

Hdqtrs, in many cases is the locus for operations for an organization and the site is strategically selected for a sound business purpose. Facebook hdqtrs is in Silicon Valley rather than Austin or LA or NYC b/c it allows for them to focus on entities important to them, including tech. vendors, VC firms, start-ups, all of which are plentiful and easily accessible w/in Silicon Valley. Though NYC could work for Facebook, their focus isn't finance or law, it's tech. and their bottom line currently dictates they remain in Silicon Valley. Comparatively, the AAC and Aresco have decided its in their best interest to relocate to a region of the country, near schools w/in that region, that provide the best opportunity for conference success.

So no, recruits don't look at the location of the conference headquarters, but the AAC move implies a deemphasis on UConn and the clout we had going into this league. This deemphasis may result in continued growth of Mid-South programs, including the programs along the I-35 corridor, and an increase in their marketability regionally. The result, continued diminishment of our Men's program all for the crapshoot of a P5 bid with a football program seeking to gain it's footing as a solid D-1 program.

The AAC offices being located in Providence had zero to do with UCONN. It was mere happenstance since the league is the successor to the old Big East Conference. They simply sold the "Big East" name to the schools that now play under that name. They retained the same offices the old Big East had in Providence.

 

[Yardigan]

The AAC offices being located in Providence had zero to do with UCONN. It was mere happenstance since the league is the successor to the old Big East Conference. They simply sold the "Big East" name to the schools that now play under that name. They retained the same offices the old Big East had in Providence.

Right, but if you look at it that way... there's no conspiracy theories to jack up...where's the fun in that?

 

[BlueMAB]

As long as the conference brass continues to prioritize UConn, I don't mind playing Tulane and ECU. But if they start to treat all members as equals, I'm going to have to reconsider UConn.


Said no recruit ever.