Creighton Postgame thread [Merged]

[MSGRET]

I watched the game 10 rows from the floor. You read a box score. I said in an earlier post, that Stanford could have picked the score. We have eyeballs, so we can make observations and we can analyze what we see and we can come to valid conclusions. Creighton can be heralded for a team truly reaching its potential last year. It’s a delicate formula. Partly, they are not playing as well, partly they do not have a positive attitude, and partly it is other teams learning how to defend them. Geno and Tara took away their open 3’s. All outside shots were contested. They cannot take advantage of inside action, players have no skills to finish inside, so teams are just covering the 3 point line.

That was not stated in the post I responded to and is not in any other of your posts on this thread, I can only respond to what you put in writing, can't read your thoughts. It was more of the defense that both Stanford and UConn used plus the size discrepancy that those two teams had on Creighton. UConn did not run up the score against Creighton, but they did keep them from scoring.

 

[MD#12Fan]

That was not stated in the post I responded to and is not in any other of your posts on this thread, I can only respond to what you put in writing, can't read your thoughts. It was more of the defense that both Stanford and UConn used plus the size discrepancy that those two teams had on Creighton. UConn did not run up the score against Creighton, but they did keep them from scoring.

I bet you can get a YouTube replay of the Stanford- Creighton game. IMO you shouldn’t rebut a comment based on a stat sheet. I do warn you though, that this game will not be a thrill a minute. I actually bought a ticket, drove from SF to Palo Alto, got a tee time near Stanford, parked the car, even bought concessions, including a shirt and hat. I’ll never get that time back.

 

[cferraro04]

I'd say, these are not 1st team AA numbers... yet. But if she's widely perceived as being the key to Stanford's success in all sorts of other intangible ways, she will still get some support.

I agree lets contrast Haley's and Brink's numbers with our potential AA

Stamford

Haley Jones - 12.7 ppg; 7.1 rpg; 3 .9 apg; 48.4 fg%; .15% 3pt%

Cameron Brink - 13.0 ppg; 8.7 rpg; 1.3 apg; 60.0 fg%; .33% 3pt%

Hannah Jump - 12.6 ppg; 1.6 rpg; 1.2 apg; .510 fg%; .48% 3pt%

UConn

Aaliyah Edwards - 17.9 ppg; 10.0 rpg; 2.6 apg; .633 fg% 100% 3pt% (only took one 3 pointer and made it)

Azzi Fudd - 20.6 ppg; 1.4 rpg; 2.8 apg; .533 fg%; 42.6% 3pt%

For fun...let's throw Dorka in the mix...

Dorka Juhasz - 13.4 ppg; 11.6 rpg; 3.8 apg; .433 fg%; .16% 3pt%

and, Aubrey Griffin while we are at it...

Aubrey Griffin - 12.7 ppg; 7.4 rpg; 1.5 apg; .602 fg%; .333% 3pt%

Finally, there is Lou Senechal...

Lou Lopez-Senechal - 16.9 ppg; 2.9 rpg; 1.5apg; .490 fg%; .508% 3pt%

For extra measure...

NIka Muhl - 6.5 ppg; 3.6 rpg; 10.0 apg; .431 fg%; .382% 3pt%

UConn has a plethora of riches with five players who are incredibly efficient all made efficient by the master enabler Nika Muhl whose numbers aren't that shabby when you take into account that in addition to her 6.5 ppg...she is responsible for 20 ppg through her assists. I would say based on current stats...Stanford has 1 player (Brink) who is putting up AA numbers. UConn has two players (Fudd and Edwards) possibly a third (Dorka) whose numbers are comparable to Brink's and in some cases better. If you put Haley in the conversation then you have to put Aubrey Griffin whose numbers are comparable. Lopez-Senechal...just brightens up the conversation while Muhl provides context

 

[dabears17]

Who is Stamford?

 

[uconnever]

Not happening..Boston ,Clark and Haley Jones are all 1St team AA from last year,they will make it again..that only leaves 2 spots open and Ashley Jones and Morrow were both 2nd team AA last year..not to mention 3rd team AA from last year like Kittley,Siegriest,Brink and Reese..awfully tough to go from not rated to 1St team AA and jump over all these players

I don’t agree with this at all, Fudd may be excluded because of her time missed due to injury, but Edwards plays like this all year and she will force their hand. If Fudd comes back and picks up where she left off, she may also force their hand. A lot of season left but if they both play consistently they way they have all year long and we make the final four, they have as good of chance as anyone maybe better of being on that team and it would be laughable if they weren’t on it.

 

[MD#12Fan]

I agree lets contrast Haley's and Brink's numbers with our potential AA

Stamford

Haley Jones - 12.7 ppg; 7.1 rpg; 3 .9 apg; 48.4 fg%; .15% 3pt%

Cameron Brink - 13.0 ppg; 8.7 rpg; 1.3 apg; 60.0 fg%; .33% 3pt%

Hannah Jump - 12.6 ppg; 1.6 rpg; 1.2 apg; .510 fg%; .48% 3pt%

UConn

Aaliyah Edwards - 17.9 ppg; 10.0 rpg; 2.6 apg; .633 fg% 100% 3pt% (only took one 3 pointer and made it)

Azzi Fudd - 20.6 ppg; 1.4 rpg; 2.8 apg; .533 fg%; 42.6% 3pt%

For fun...let's throw Dorka in the mix...

Dorka Juhasz - 13.4 ppg; 11.6 rpg; 3.8 apg; .433 fg%; .16% 3pt%

and, Aubrey Griffin while we are at it...

Aubrey Griffin - 12.7 ppg; 7.4 rpg; 1.5 apg; .602 fg%; .333% 3pt%

Finally, there is Lou Senechal...

Lou Lopez-Senechal - 16.9 ppg; 2.9 rpg; 1.5apg; .490 fg%; .508% 3pt%

For extra measure...

NIka Muhl - 6.5 ppg; 3.6 rpg; 10.0 apg; .431 fg%; .382% 3pt%

UConn has a plethora of riches with five players who are incredibly efficient all made efficient by the master enabler Nika Muhl whose numbers aren't that shabby when you take into account that in addition to her 6.5 ppg...she is responsible for 20 ppg through her assists. I would say based on current stats...Stanford has 1 player (Brink) who is putting up AA numbers. UConn has two players (Fudd and Edwards) possibly a third (Dorka) whose numbers are comparable to Brink's and in some cases better. If you put Haley in the conversation then you have to put Aubrey Griffin whose numbers are comparable. Lopez-Senechal...just brightens up the conversation while Muhl provides context

Firstly, I’m a UConn fanatic.
Secondly, I don’t think your comparisons are valid or appropriate.
UConn is playing with 6 (sorry Inez), Stanford 12. Do you know that they have a 6’7” freshman. UConn needs AE to do what she’s doing in a big way, and she’s more than delivering. Stanford hasn’t played anybody but SC. UConn has played the best OOC schedule in WCBB. Tara is getting everyone minutes. They’re in cruise control, while UConn is even having to manage players effort and minutes in practice.
I saw Stanford beat Creighton by 13 in person. They could have picked the score. They could have won by 40.
Remember, “the only person to hold MJ under 20 was Dean Smith“.
I think AE belongs in the discussion hugely, but I think your numbers comparison is inane.

 

[dtbtbtb]

IMO the game against SC will be crucial for AE chances to be AA. This is a game everyone will watch and if she plays really well (say 20 and 10), she'll be an AA (clearly if she continues her amazing play for the rest of the season).

 

[HuskyNan]

Closing this thread. It’s wandered too far off topic