Creighton Postgame thread [Merged]

[Conndog]

For someone like Caroline Ducharme, I would have thought she would have been able to put a 20 points game easily, especially given the amount of minutes she played. Missed several bunnies. Something is still just night right with her. And now with that knock in the side of her head, having ab big ice pack placed on it, is a big concern. I hope and pray that she can finally snap out of it, this team needs a healthy and fully productive Caroline Ducharme to win it all this season

Her shot was off slightly- some of her 3 point tries went in & out or were just a tad strong. She is getting closer. I loved the pull-up jump shot she had in 2nd quarter. If she can develop that consistently, it will add to her arsenal.

 

[CajunHusky]

I am gratified that they achieved a win with only 7 players. I expected 20 points from Lou but I am glad that the ball was shared with Edwards and Dorka. I do hope that the healing process will continue and that little by little, our injured players will rejoin Team play. Good words for Ines and she is a very good find and this is proving itself in BE play.

I would have said Lou was key until I saw the pregame on SNY. Kara Wolters called it, she said she expected huge games from both Aaliyah and Dorka.

 

[Bills Fan]

1. Did anyone see Ines switching on the perimeter. She was really playing D. I think she has got it. With our limited amount of players and up by thirty would love to see her run the offense. She looks like a quick learner. Nika is always getting bumped and banged. Its a long season.
2. Edwards mid range has made her unstoppable. If they layoff her she hits those shots with consistency. They come up on her and she drives around them. Always making moves in the low post and not just straight up like her first two years. AP will learn just like AE has.
3. Dorka played like a real post player. The high low game we are developing will take us a long way.

I agree with you about Ines. I know the Geno can do no wrong folks will not agre withme, but in a blowout game like last night there is no reason to risk injury to our engine while leaving Ines sitting on the bench for all but a cup of coffee. With no other back up PG Nika needs as much rest as possible and Ines needs court time to learn and improve. It's interesting that CD used Ines much more in the SH game than Geno last night and I think Ines did just fine against the Hall.

 

[HuskyNan]

I agree with you about Ines. I know the Geno can do no wrong folks will not agre withme, but in a blowout game like last night there is no reason to risk injury to our engine while leaving Ines sitting on the bench for all but a cup of coffee. With no other back up PG Nika needs as much rest as possible and Ines needs court time to learn and improve. It's interesting that CD used Ines much more in the SH game than Geno last night and I think Ines did just fine against the Hall.

Ines got stitches in her nose after getting whacked in practice. She may have been played sparingly to prevent her getting hit again so soon

 

[CajunHusky]

I agree with you about Ines. I know the Geno can do no wrong folks will not agre withme, but in a blowout game like last night there is no reason to risk injury to our engine while leaving Ines sitting on the bench for all but a cup of coffee. With no other back up PG Nika needs as much rest as possible and Ines needs court time to learn and improve. It's interesting that CD used Ines much more in the SH game than Geno last night and I think Ines did just fine against the Hall.

Ines went in to the game injured. I didn't quite catch want happened but someone said Ines was sporting a "massive" bandage on her forehead. I heard a later comment about "several stitches". I thought that was in reference to Lou but I suppose it could have been Ines.

 

[MilfordHusky]

Taking bets on who had a hand in Ines getting stitches.

I think it has to be Nika or maybe Liya.

 

[MilfordHusky]

Ines went in to the game injured. I didn't quite catch want happened but someone said Ines was sporting a "massive" bandage on her forehead. I heard a later comment about "several stitches". I thought that was in reference to Lou but I suppose it could have been Ines.

I think Alan said Lou's name in error in a conversation about Ines.

 

[browns]

Haley Jones is not having a first team AA season.

I can't comment on that because I've only seen Stanford play 3 times..i do know everything goes thru jones and even though I'm not a fan Brinks seems to have stepped up her game ..of course she's always in foul trouble..as great as AE is playing she is really aggressive but not picking up the silly fouls she has in the past

For someone like Caroline Ducharme, I would have thought she would have been able to put a 20 points game easily, especially given the amount of minutes she played. Missed several bunnies. Something is still just night right with her. And now with that knock in the side of her head, having ab big ice pack placed on it, is a big concern. I hope and pray that she can finally snap out of it, this team needs a healthy and fully productive Caroline Ducharme to win it all this season

I don't think it's a matter of snapping out of it..I just think she's not healthy enough to play like she did last year..she certainly doesn't move well at all on either ends of the court

 

[PAHuskeyFan]

I can't comment on that because I've only seen Stanford play 3 times..i do know everything goes thru jones and even though I'm not a fan Brinks seems to have stepped up her game ..of course she's always in foul trouble..as great as AE is playing she is really aggressive but not picking up the silly fouls she has in the past

I don't think it's a matter of snapping out of it..I just think she's not healthy enough to play like she did last year..she certainly doesn't move well at all on either ends of the court

One thing... regarding one previous AA... I have always liked Haley Jones and wish she had chosen UCONN instead of Stanford. But, as far as AA this season, her numbers are way down..
12.7 ppg
7.1 rpg
3.9 apg
48.4 fg%
15.0 3pt%
These are NOT AA numbers at this point in the season. She has time to improve them, but its going to be an up hill battle.

 

[JellyBean]

I was concerned about playing Creighton, I think they are ranked 21st, and UConn playing without Fudd/Griffin.. Dorka and Aaliyah were great, Nika was her usual upbeat player and our defense was really good.
Lou had trouble finding the basket, plus she was guarded well/when Azzi returns it will help Lou's offensive game.
Caroline hustle and showed sign of getting better.

Well said. I was worried about this game against Creighton as well, especially after hearing that we would be playing with only seven players. We dodge a bullet because Creighton could not hit the barn with a baseball. Holy smokes! Someone posted that they were shooting 15% from the field and an eye popping 5% from three-point land. That helped a lot.

As for our beloved UConn squad. Hats off to the defense, especially our halfcourt defense. I like to say that our defense was the reason why Creighton had an awful shooting night. Defensively, it looked like we were applying enough pressure on three-point line, trying to run them off the line and from getting comfortable looks from the line.

Offensively, Aaliyah just continues to impress! From her playing the passing lanes and getting steals which lead to breakaway layups, her post up in the lane, and her improved defense. She continues to play some outstanding basketball. Keep it going, Aaliyah.

Dorka: Another solid game from Dorka. Loved that she used her height and size advantage to just dominate the lane, much like Aaliyah did. Loved that she did not just jack up 3-point shots. We all know that she can shoot from deep. But she played a smart game yesterday and continues to play impressive basketball.

Nika: Is there a Most Improved Player Award or You are so valuable to the team award. OMG! Nika just continues to stake her claim to the point guard position. Each game her decision making gets better and better. Her shooting, once suspect. I mean really suspect, now causes a defender to actually think twice about playing off her. Nika's court vision is wicked! There were some passes that were sweet!! Like nice dimes! Great work, Nika!!

Caroline & Lou: I just love watching Caroline play. She can do wrong in my eyes. Just glad that she is getting better each game. Just love how she is not afraid to rebound. Hope that she is okay. I saw where she had an ice pack on her head. For Lou, just a natural competitor. She tried to get a few charges in the game. Not many players put their bodies on the line like that. Lou does it with ease. Sure she did not get the call a few times but she was still trying to take a charge or two. Love that about her and her shooting.

Ayanna and Ines: These two are going to great additions down the stretch. Ayanna is getting the minutes and her confidence is there. She is going to be special. Same with Ines. These two players are going to help the program a lot this season and going forward.

Great win, UConn!!

 

[MD#12Fan]

Except for the first quarter against Stanford the Bluejays basically played them even up for rest of the game, outscoring them 49 to 45. Also, @Urshurak and @cferraro04 the game against Marquette this Saturday is at Gampel not in Marquette, so there is no "on to Marquette".

I watched the game 10 rows from the floor. You read a box score. I said in an earlier post, that Stanford could have picked the score. We have eyeballs, so we can make observations and we can analyze what we see and we can come to valid conclusions. Creighton can be heralded for a team truly reaching its potential last year. It’s a delicate formula. Partly, they are not playing as well, partly they do not have a positive attitude, and partly it is other teams learning how to defend them. Geno and Tara took away their open 3’s. All outside shots were contested. They cannot take advantage of inside action, players have no skills to finish inside, so teams are just covering the 3 point line.

 

[Bone Dog]

One thing... regarding one previous AA... I have always liked Haley Jones and wish she had chosen UCONN instead of Stanford. But, as far as AA this season, her numbers are way down..
12.7 ppg
7.1 rpg
3.9 apg
48.4 fg%
15.0 3pt%
These are NOT AA numbers at this point in the season. She has time to improve them, but its going to be an up hill battle.

I'd say, these are not 1st team AA numbers... yet. But if she's widely perceived as being the key to Stanford's success in all sorts of other intangible ways, she will still get some support.

 

[MSGRET]

Taking bets on who had a hand in Ines getting stitches.

My money is on the Croatian Sensation.

 

[LwrcasefaN]

I think it has to be Nika or maybe Liya.

It's like an initiation at this point. You're not officially a Husky until you get a mask, stitches, or a brace.

 

[The deacon]

I'd say, these are not 1st team AA numbers... yet. But if she's widely perceived as being the key to Stanford's success in all sorts of other intangible ways, she will still get some support.

BoneDog, it really is about the role Haley plays for Stanford. A quick check of her career numbers at Stanford shows she's right about where she was each of the past several seasons.

For those who doubt Jones' bonafides as an All-American, they should watch Stanford play... I realize we don't get a lot of chance but games can be found after the fact on YouTube. Unfortunately for Haley's rep this season, she made a couple of mental errors at the end of the Cardinal's game vs. South Carolina and they likely cost Stanford the game.

Still, if I were to pick my ideal team from amongst this year's WCBB players, Haley might well be in my starting five, at least in the rotation. One needs to see her play to appreciate all she does.

It's always a tough task to weigh the Joneses of the world with those who have eye-catching stats like Caitlin Clark and Maddy Siegrist (both of whom I'd also gladly have on my team).

How about those three, plus Aaliyah Edwards and either Cameron Brink or Aliyah Boston? In addition to all of their other talents, that'd be a team with five really strong rebounders! And yup, there are plenty of other worthy contenders, including Azzi, pending her physical status.

 

[MSGRET]

I watched the game 10 rows from the floor. You read a box score. I said in an earlier post, that Stanford could have picked the score. We have eyeballs, so we can make observations and we can analyze what we see and we can come to valid conclusions. Creighton can be heralded for a team truly reaching its potential last year. It’s a delicate formula. Partly, they are not playing as well, partly they do not have a positive attitude, and partly it is other teams learning how to defend them. Geno and Tara took away their open 3’s. All outside shots were contested. They cannot take advantage of inside action, players have no skills to finish inside, so teams are just covering the 3 point line.

That was not stated in the post I responded to and is not in any other of your posts on this thread, I can only respond to what you put in writing, can't read your thoughts. It was more of the defense that both Stanford and UConn used plus the size discrepancy that those two teams had on Creighton. UConn did not run up the score against Creighton, but they did keep them from scoring.

 

[MD#12Fan]

That was not stated in the post I responded to and is not in any other of your posts on this thread, I can only respond to what you put in writing, can't read your thoughts. It was more of the defense that both Stanford and UConn used plus the size discrepancy that those two teams had on Creighton. UConn did not run up the score against Creighton, but they did keep them from scoring.

I bet you can get a YouTube replay of the Stanford- Creighton game. IMO you shouldn’t rebut a comment based on a stat sheet. I do warn you though, that this game will not be a thrill a minute. I actually bought a ticket, drove from SF to Palo Alto, got a tee time near Stanford, parked the car, even bought concessions, including a shirt and hat. I’ll never get that time back.

 

[cferraro04]

I'd say, these are not 1st team AA numbers... yet. But if she's widely perceived as being the key to Stanford's success in all sorts of other intangible ways, she will still get some support.

I agree lets contrast Haley's and Brink's numbers with our potential AA

Stamford

Haley Jones - 12.7 ppg; 7.1 rpg; 3 .9 apg; 48.4 fg%; .15% 3pt%

Cameron Brink - 13.0 ppg; 8.7 rpg; 1.3 apg; 60.0 fg%; .33% 3pt%

Hannah Jump - 12.6 ppg; 1.6 rpg; 1.2 apg; .510 fg%; .48% 3pt%

UConn

Aaliyah Edwards - 17.9 ppg; 10.0 rpg; 2.6 apg; .633 fg% 100% 3pt% (only took one 3 pointer and made it)

Azzi Fudd - 20.6 ppg; 1.4 rpg; 2.8 apg; .533 fg%; 42.6% 3pt%

For fun...let's throw Dorka in the mix...

Dorka Juhasz - 13.4 ppg; 11.6 rpg; 3.8 apg; .433 fg%; .16% 3pt%

and, Aubrey Griffin while we are at it...

Aubrey Griffin - 12.7 ppg; 7.4 rpg; 1.5 apg; .602 fg%; .333% 3pt%

Finally, there is Lou Senechal...

Lou Lopez-Senechal - 16.9 ppg; 2.9 rpg; 1.5apg; .490 fg%; .508% 3pt%

For extra measure...

NIka Muhl - 6.5 ppg; 3.6 rpg; 10.0 apg; .431 fg%; .382% 3pt%

UConn has a plethora of riches with five players who are incredibly efficient all made efficient by the master enabler Nika Muhl whose numbers aren't that shabby when you take into account that in addition to her 6.5 ppg...she is responsible for 20 ppg through her assists. I would say based on current stats...Stanford has 1 player (Brink) who is putting up AA numbers. UConn has two players (Fudd and Edwards) possibly a third (Dorka) whose numbers are comparable to Brink's and in some cases better. If you put Haley in the conversation then you have to put Aubrey Griffin whose numbers are comparable. Lopez-Senechal...just brightens up the conversation while Muhl provides context

 

[dabears17]

Who is Stamford?

 

[uconnever]

Not happening..Boston ,Clark and Haley Jones are all 1St team AA from last year,they will make it again..that only leaves 2 spots open and Ashley Jones and Morrow were both 2nd team AA last year..not to mention 3rd team AA from last year like Kittley,Siegriest,Brink and Reese..awfully tough to go from not rated to 1St team AA and jump over all these players

I don’t agree with this at all, Fudd may be excluded because of her time missed due to injury, but Edwards plays like this all year and she will force their hand. If Fudd comes back and picks up where she left off, she may also force their hand. A lot of season left but if they both play consistently they way they have all year long and we make the final four, they have as good of chance as anyone maybe better of being on that team and it would be laughable if they weren’t on it.

 

[MD#12Fan]

I agree lets contrast Haley's and Brink's numbers with our potential AA

Stamford

Haley Jones - 12.7 ppg; 7.1 rpg; 3 .9 apg; 48.4 fg%; .15% 3pt%

Cameron Brink - 13.0 ppg; 8.7 rpg; 1.3 apg; 60.0 fg%; .33% 3pt%

Hannah Jump - 12.6 ppg; 1.6 rpg; 1.2 apg; .510 fg%; .48% 3pt%

UConn

Aaliyah Edwards - 17.9 ppg; 10.0 rpg; 2.6 apg; .633 fg% 100% 3pt% (only took one 3 pointer and made it)

Azzi Fudd - 20.6 ppg; 1.4 rpg; 2.8 apg; .533 fg%; 42.6% 3pt%

For fun...let's throw Dorka in the mix...

Dorka Juhasz - 13.4 ppg; 11.6 rpg; 3.8 apg; .433 fg%; .16% 3pt%

and, Aubrey Griffin while we are at it...

Aubrey Griffin - 12.7 ppg; 7.4 rpg; 1.5 apg; .602 fg%; .333% 3pt%

Finally, there is Lou Senechal...

Lou Lopez-Senechal - 16.9 ppg; 2.9 rpg; 1.5apg; .490 fg%; .508% 3pt%

For extra measure...

NIka Muhl - 6.5 ppg; 3.6 rpg; 10.0 apg; .431 fg%; .382% 3pt%

UConn has a plethora of riches with five players who are incredibly efficient all made efficient by the master enabler Nika Muhl whose numbers aren't that shabby when you take into account that in addition to her 6.5 ppg...she is responsible for 20 ppg through her assists. I would say based on current stats...Stanford has 1 player (Brink) who is putting up AA numbers. UConn has two players (Fudd and Edwards) possibly a third (Dorka) whose numbers are comparable to Brink's and in some cases better. If you put Haley in the conversation then you have to put Aubrey Griffin whose numbers are comparable. Lopez-Senechal...just brightens up the conversation while Muhl provides context

Firstly, I’m a UConn fanatic.
Secondly, I don’t think your comparisons are valid or appropriate.
UConn is playing with 6 (sorry Inez), Stanford 12. Do you know that they have a 6’7” freshman. UConn needs AE to do what she’s doing in a big way, and she’s more than delivering. Stanford hasn’t played anybody but SC. UConn has played the best OOC schedule in WCBB. Tara is getting everyone minutes. They’re in cruise control, while UConn is even having to manage players effort and minutes in practice.
I saw Stanford beat Creighton by 13 in person. They could have picked the score. They could have won by 40.
Remember, “the only person to hold MJ under 20 was Dean Smith“.
I think AE belongs in the discussion hugely, but I think your numbers comparison is inane.

 

[dtbtbtb]

IMO the game against SC will be crucial for AE chances to be AA. This is a game everyone will watch and if she plays really well (say 20 and 10), she'll be an AA (clearly if she continues her amazing play for the rest of the season).

 

[HuskyNan]

Closing this thread. It’s wandered too far off topic