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Inyatkin said:
Cupcake is East Texas A&M. Providence stinks, but they beat SJU. Ergo, not close to a cupcake. SH not close either
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There's a group out there that defines "cupcake" as any unranked team who UConn beat. I ignore that nonsense.
 
KingAG said:
I agree. He’s averaged 14,8 and 2 in the month of January on 64% shooting. And his “lack of rebounding” showed itself with him have 11 or more rebs in 3 of those games. Our defense efficiency also has been markedly better with him on the floor. It’s all narrative driven at this point. Him and Silas were almost single handedly responsible for our turnaround on defense this year.

And his numbers would be stupid good if he could makes ft haha

If this is C+ Taris than what were your expectations lmao
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Hurley's stated expectation for Reed was that he would be the best big man in the country. He's not that yet.
 
Tarris has been frustrating only because we have seen and know how good he can be -- he has been sloppy of recent with the fouling, he should be better on the glass, his free throw shooting needs to be 10-15% better to not be a serious liability, he needs to do more to gain better positioning in the post, and he needs to improve on his vision when doubled in the post.

He has shown at times he can do all of these things, but it isn't consistent. The good news is Reibe has been ascending, but this team will not reach the great heights we think it can with him not being more consistent. It can't just be Reibe or just Tarris. They need both of them to put forth a quality 40 minutes combined.
 
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Storrs South said:
Tarris has been frustrating only because we have seen and know how good he can be -- he has been sloppy of recent with the fouling, he should be better on the glass, his free throw shooting needs to be 10-15% better to not be a serious liability, he needs to do more to gain better positioning in the post, and he needs to improve on his vision when doubled in the post.

He has shown at times he can do all of these things, but it isn't consistent. The good news is Reibe has been ascending, but this team will not reach the great heights we think it can with him not being more consistent. It can't just be Reibe or just Tarris. They need both of them to put forth a quality 40 minutes combined.
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I’m dumbfounded. His ft shooting hasn’t been consistent. That’s true. But his rebounding has been consistent all year. The numbers back it up. Last game he got crap for doing exactly what you’re asking(passing out of double teams).

His averages and advanced metrics make it impossible for him to be as inconsistent as yall are painting him to be. He’s been consistently good all year. Just say yall wanted a player of the year candidate. He doesn’t have to be that to be what we need.

His defensive presence and his interior presence along side Silas is why are defense is where it is. Are defensive efficiency improves dramatically when he plays. Did you forget what our rebounding looked like when he was out? Add all of that to the fact we haven’t lost a game he’s played in this season, Lmao. He’s the new punching bag.
 
RuffRuff said:
No - lot's of cupcakes.
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So you even enjoy watching UCONN games? I mean we all can pick apart games. Fact is that last three seasons we would have at least one more L than this season. We are not perfect- not playing perfect but think back to the days of hoping for a 20 win season so we had a chance to make the NCAA tournament -and try to enjoy at least some of it.
 
Tarris was being doubled for a good chunk of the game and to his credit, he played inside-outside ball and found the shooter. But I have to agree, when he is not being doubled he should be able to Sanogo his way to the basket and either draw the foul (and hit the damn FTs) or get the bucket.

I like the set they ran for Ross for the very last 3 pointer of the game. Perhaps Danny realized he needs to run sets for this kid to get him open looks rather than just say "go out there and find a way to score." There was no hesitation - zero. He needs those confidence boosters. We ran this set for you. Nail it.
 
TheShot1990 said:
Tarris was being doubled for a good chunk of the game and to his credit, he played inside-outside ball and found the shooter. But I have to agree, when he is not being doubled he should be able to Sanogo his way to the basket and either draw the foul (and hit the damn FTs) or get the bucket.

I like the set they ran for Ross for the very last 3 pointer of the game. Perhaps Danny realized he needs to run sets for this kid to get him open looks rather than just say "go out there and find a way to score." There was no hesitation - zero. He needs those confidence boosters. We ran this set for you. Nail it.
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He was doubled the entire game. On every first dribble they sent a double. The game before….he scored 20
 
At Creighton Tarris had a few put backs that were awesome, key rebounds (yes fumbled holding onto his first) and overall had a good game.

Some of those double teams against him he has fought through for a hoop in prior games and this seemed like one he could but chose to pass.

He will have a different role vs St Johns on Zuby but likely similar vs X.
 
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tarris has his problems but he's also a guy that's capable of being dominant. the vision is to play him and a bunch of shooters to create impossible dilemmas. the staff have been miracle workers with him if you just look at the improvement he's made since the michigan days.

basically they are trying to micromanage him, fly by wire. if you leave tarris to make his own decisions he's kind of fragile and can go back to the high turnover guy from michigan, but restrict his options and he can be effective.
 
TheShot1990 said:
Tarris was being doubled for a good chunk of the game and to his credit, he played inside-outside ball and found the shooter. But I have to agree, when he is not being doubled he should be able to Sanogo his way to the basket and either draw the foul (and hit the damn FTs) or get the bucket.

I like the set they ran for Ross for the very last 3 pointer of the game. Perhaps Danny realized he needs to run sets for this kid to get him open looks rather than just say "go out there and find a way to score." There was no hesitation - zero. He needs those confidence boosters. We ran this set for you. Nail it.
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Tarris’s problem is that he loves to keep the ball low and go under and up with his shots. Adama kept the ball high and had that hook that was deadly. That’s how Tarris ends up with ugly attempts and turnovers
 
KingAG said:
I’m dumbfounded. His ft shooting hasn’t been consistent. That’s true. But his rebounding has been consistent all year. The numbers back it up. Last game he got crap for doing exactly what you’re asking(passing out of double teams).

His averages and advanced metrics make it impossible for him to be as inconsistent as yall are painting him to be. He’s been consistently good all year. Just say yall wanted a player of the year candidate. He doesn’t have to be that to be what we need.

His defensive presence and his interior presence along side Silas is why are defense is where it is. Are defensive efficiency improves dramatically when he plays. Did you forget what our rebounding looked like when he was out? Add all of that to the fact we haven’t lost a game he’s played in this season, Lmao. He’s the new punching bag.
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Everyone goes by the "eye test," which means something different to different people, and they take cues from things like body language, which could be meaningful or not. The numbers show he's been everything we'd want him to be.

I said this before the start of the year, when a certain briefs writer was talking him up as a lottery pick. That was just a prelude to knocking him when it turned out he's not that -- which is exactly how it's played out.
 
Inyatkin said:
Everyone goes by the "eye test," which means something different to different people, and they take cues from things like body language, which could be meaningful or not. The numbers show he's been everything we'd want him to be.

I said this before the start of the year, when a certain briefs writer was talking him up as a lottery pick. That was just a prelude to knocking him when it turned out he's not that -- which is exactly how it's played out.
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I think there are plenty of fans that think he could do much more with his physical talents. He has dominant size and athletecism, simply doesn't have the motor, consistency or focus to really use it to what many feel like is his potential. We've seen glimpses of it. When you're given a 6'11" 265lb body made of granite with light feet and good hands, agility, a fan wants more.
 
Rocktheworld said:
Tarris’s problem is that he loves to keep the ball low and go under and up with his shots. Adama kept the ball high and had that hook that was deadly. That’s how Tarris ends up with ugly attempts and turnovers
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And yet he scores more efficiently than Adama did and has the same turnover rate as him.
 
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RuffRuff said:
I think there are plenty of fans that think he could do much more with his physical talents. He has dominant size and athletecism, simply doesn't have the motor, consistency or focus to really use it to what many feel like is his potential. We've seen glimpses of it. When you're given a 6'11" 265lb body made of granite with light feet and good hands, agility, a fan wants more.
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You spent all last year bemoaning the fact that Reed wasn't starting over Samson Johnson, a player you now acknowledge actually did have something to offer, a reason to play him other than some weird loyalty thing from Hurley

So you'll forgive me if I don't want to hear more of your deep sighs about a center who has let you down.
 
Inyatkin said:
You spent all last year bemoaning the fact that Reed wasn't starting over Samson Johnson, a player you now acknowledge actually did have something to offer, a reason to play him other than some weird loyalty thing from Hurley

So you'll forgive me if I don't want to hear more of your deep sighs about a center who has let you down.
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@PC last year is what I've been hoping from Tarris, more often. He was dominant and had urgency. Samson was a really nice change of pace, rim runner. It was hard to have a starting 5 that couldn't rebound - I think you could acknowledge that. Tarris has all the makings of a dominant 5, if he wanted to be.
 
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superjohn said:
And yet he scores more efficiently than Adama did and has the same turnover rate as him.
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Still something I wish he could clean up. Yes to this point in a down year for the conference, he has made one more basket per 50 attempts than did Adama in ‘23. Let’s not forget Adama also took 52 3s

In the tournament Adama was 67.5% from the field and 77% from the line
 
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