Creighton Post Game Thread

[uconngb]

“Maybe I shouldn’t have played Alex today,” Hurley said. “We’ve got to figure out what’s going on with him physically, because he was moving around out there like a cargo ship.”

Smart Danny. Hurt last game, you played him anyhow. Hurt this game, was obvious, yet you left him in there.

Does he pay attention AT ALL to what’s going on in game?? We are good awful at in game adjustments and apparently also at identifying dead wood

 

[RuffRuff]

I assume he also earned a degree. That's worth something. More to some than others. Like you said it is a personal decision. Maybe he regrets it but I doubt it.

I think he got his degree in three years, redshirted a year no? Degrees will always be there to get. The NBA dream only happens once.

 

[DogMania]

I like what I saw with Tarris Reed Jr finally Dunking the ball with ferocity instead of the finesse bank shot. Message received!

I like Demary attacking the paint and effort on D.

I like how they looked for early offense instead of setting up their half-court set all night long.

I didn't like the lineup changes especially changing the one early in the second half that built a nice albeit short lived lead.

I didn't like the number of deep shots early in the clock when they were finding success in the paint.

I didn't like the horrible performance from AK and Solo and the bad results at the foul line. Solo's back to back misses after we had that nice run at the beginning of the second half flipped the momentum and the game.

I hated our defensive performance most of the night, which is looking like a D that will result in an early exit come March. Note that Creighton shot lights out tonight, so props to them.

I hope Hurley and staff can fix what is broken. They're much more talented than what they are showing. Saturday night will be a big test to see what this team is made of.

 

[Donyell 360]

I think he got his degree in three years, redshirted a year no? Degrees will always be there to get. The NBA dream only happens once.

Looked it up. You are right. He got his degree in finance last year and is pursuing a "certificate in non-profit management" this year. Whatever that is. But my point is just that education is more valuable to some than others. If playing in the NBA was the most important thing to him, then he missed his best opportunity. But at the end of the day, you have to earn your spot. Good timing only gets you so far. Those degrees will last longer than the euphoric high from being drafted.

 

[RuffRuff]

I like what I saw with Tarris Reed Jr finally Dunking the ball with ferocity instead of the finesse bank shot. Message received!

I like Demary attacking the paint and effort on D.

I like how they looked for early offense instead of setting up their half-court set all night long.

I didn't like the lineup changes especially changing the one early in the second half that built a nice albeit short lived lead.

I didn't like the number of deep shots early in the clock when they were finding success in the paint.

I didn't like the horrible performance from AK and Solo and the bad results at the foul line. Solo's back to back misses after we had that nice run at the beginning of the second half flipped the momentum and the game.

I hated our defensive performance most of the night, which is looking like a D that will result in an early exit come March. Note that Creighton shot lights out tonight, so props to them.

I hope Hurley and staff can fix what is broken. They're much more talented than what they are showing. Saturday night will be a big test to see what this team is made of.

I like the form of your post with 8 "I" statements perfectly spaced.

Something feels off with the coaching/player chemistry on this team.

 

[KingAG]

Looked it up. You are right. He got his degree in finance last year and is pursuing a "certificate in non-profit management" this year. Whatever that is. But my point is just that education is more valuable to some than others. If playing in the NBA was the most important thing to him, then he missed his best opportunity. But at the end of the day, you have to earn your spot. Good timing only gets you so far. Those degrees will last longer than the euphoric high from being drafted.

He didn’t miss anything. I’m not sure you’re familiar with the NBA draft process. 2nd rounders are non guaranteed. There’s guys who go undrafted that end up with contracts over guys who went second round. And Alex won’t go undrafted. If you’re a 2nd round pick you don’t lose anything by coming back to school.

Had he went he’d be making $500,000 playing for the Maine red claws.

 

[Scrutineer]

Another thing that bums me out is that there's been no progression from Jaylin, it's now at the point where it's regression. He's a really great kid and he showed a lot of game when I watched him in high school. He was all over draft boards early in his UConn career and now he's just a spectator whether he's on the bench or in the game.

Coaching? You can read it all over his face that he isn't really "in the game".

 

[RuffRuff]

Looked it up. You are right. He got his degree in finance last year and is pursuing a "certificate in non-profit management" this year. Whatever that is. But my point is just that education is more valuable to some than others. If playing in the NBA was the most important thing to him, then he missed his best opportunity. But at the end of the day, you have to earn your spot. Good timing only gets you so far. Those degrees will last longer than the euphoric high from being drafted.

My guess is he came back thinking he could escalate his draft value as a core player, along with NIL & the 3 peat as secondary benefits. I think that B2B jaded a lot of perspectives. That decision was encouraged by the coaching staff. They mis-evaluated. Hurley blind spot. Then when he generally tanked as a core player, he came back for the NIL and another year see if he could regroup.

Educated guess.

He didn’t miss anything. I’m not sure you’re familiar with the NBA draft process. 2nd rounders are non guaranteed. There’s guys who go undrafted that end up with contracts over guys who went second round. And Alex won’t go undrafted. If you’re a 2nd round pick you don’t lose anything by coming back to school.

Had he went he’d be making $500,000 playing for the Maine red claws.

AJX had a 4 year, 7.5mm contract with 5mm+ guaranteed. Presuming that's around where AK would have gone in 2024 as an early second rounder, you could use that as a gauge. That's a lot more money that he got in NIL, and he would have gotten his NBA career started earlier. Early second rounders usually get decent guaranteed contracts.

 

[Donyell 360]

He didn’t miss anything. I’m not sure you’re familiar with the NBA draft process. 2nd rounders are non guaranteed. There’s guys who go undrafted that end up with contracts over guys who went second round. And Alex won’t go undrafted. If you’re a 2nd round pick you don’t lose anything by coming back to school.

Had he went he’d be making $500,000 playing for the Maine red claws.

High second rounders can get some guaranteed money. We don't know where he would have been drafted, just projections which can be wrong. How do you think his draft stock compares to last year or the year before?

And to be clear, I think he made the right decision coming back, because he probably won't make it in the NBA anyway. Might as well make more money on NIL and get a degree and be treated like a king. But if we are strictly talking about his best chance to play in the NBA, that was last year or the year before.

 

[DawgEnjoyer]

We don’t have the rim protection we’re used to, at all. That’s the difference.

Yeah, I know Reed had 15 in the first half, but he likely gave up just as many letting everyone get to the rim at ease

 

[superjohn]

He didn’t miss anything. I’m not sure you’re familiar with the NBA draft process. 2nd rounders are non guaranteed. There’s guys who go undrafted that end up with contracts over guys who went second round. And Alex won’t go undrafted. If you’re a 2nd round pick you don’t lose anything by coming back to school.

Had he went he’d be making $500,000 playing for the Maine red claws.

Karaban may have been drafted late first round if he left after his sophomore season. Several teams at the end of the first were interested in him. He had his best season as a sophomore, UConn was coming off back to back and his flaws weren't exposed yet. He has no chance of being drafted first round now.

I'm sure he's comfortable with his decision, he's made a lot of money here in the past two seasons and he loves playing for UConn but the hype around him as a player in those two seasons doesn't at all match his on court performance.

 

[RuffRuff]

High second rounders can get some guaranteed money. We don't know where he would have been drafted, just projections which can be wrong. How do you think his draft stock compares to last year or the year before?

And to be clear, I think he made the right decision coming back, because he probably won't make it in the NBA anyway. Might as well make more money on NIL and get a degree and be treated like a king. But if we are strictly talking about his best chance to play in the NBA, that was last year or the year before.

If Baylor Scheirman went 30th in that 2024 draft, I think AK could have easily gone around him. Johnny Furphy dropped into early second. It was a super weak draft. Zachary Rissacher went 1 - he's already considered a bust.

Last year there was no point in leaving, as he got a bigger NIL bag coming back. He's being paid well from what I know.

My sense is Hurley needs to rethink some of his recruiting strategy. I think there is a lot of merit to him abandoning what worked for the profiles he's recruited the last couple years.

 

[KingAG]

My guess is he came back thinking he could escalate his draft value as a core player, along with NIL & the 3 peat as secondary benefits. I think that B2B jaded a lot of perspectives. That decision was encouraged by the coaching staff. They mis-evaluated. Hurley blind spot. Then when he generally tanked as a core player, he came back for the NIL and another year see if he could regroup.

Educated guess.


AJX had a 4 year, 7.5mm contract with 5mm+ guaranteed. Presuming that's around where AK would have gone in 2024 as an early second rounder, you could use that as a gauge. That's a lot more money that he got in NIL, and he would have gotten his NBA career started earlier. Early second rounders usually get decent guaranteed contracts.

Which means AK may have made more the last 2 years per year. Just not a bad decision imo. And all his money is guaranteed. How much of the 7.5 was guaranteed for AJax?

At the end of the day he bet on himself. The objection was you equating that to some unhealthy relationship between him and Hurley.

 

[KingAG]

Karaban may have been drafted late first round if he left after his sophomore season. Several teams at the end of the first were interested in him. He had his best season as a sophomore, UConn was coming off back to back and his flaws weren't exposed yet. He has no chance of being drafted first round now.

I'm sure he's comfortable with his decision, he's made a lot of money here in the past two seasons and he loves playing for UConn but the hype around him as a player in those two seasons doesn't at all match his on court performance.

I don’t see this “hype” you see. Every praise lobbied his way has been due to what he’s accomplished. He’s earned it. And people talk about his game rather accurately. Everyone describes him as a connector. Who is overrating him?

 

[HW611]

Did we use to have this much talk about Dehnam Brown and Rashad Anderson being 2nd rounders back in the Calhoun days?

We talk so much about second rounders and how great it is to be one these days lol

 

[RuffRuff]

Karaban may have been drafted late first round if he left after his sophomore season. Several teams at the end of the first were interested in him. He had his best season as a sophomore, UConn was coming off back to back and his flaws weren't exposed yet. He has no chance of being drafted first round now.

I'm sure he's comfortable with his decision, he's made a lot of money here in the past two seasons and he loves playing for UConn but the hype around him as a player in those two seasons doesn't at all match his on court performance.

I would have loved to be a fly on the wall with the staff when he decided to come back. The endorphins after that B2B made everyone drunk. From AK coming back thinking he could be a stud core player, to Hurley thinking he could convert Mahaney to a PG, to his Good Morning America interviews.

Which means AK may have made more the last 2 years per year. Just not a bad decision imo. And all his money is guaranteed. How much of the 7.5 was guaranteed for AJax?

You think AK made 2mm/year the last two years? He may also go late enough this year where he gets almost nothing guaranteed. He was also being discussed as a potential late first. The wise choice would have been to go.

 

[KingAG]

I would have loved to be a fly on the wall with the staff when he decided to come back. The endorphins after that B2B made everyone drunk. From AK coming back thinking he could be a stud core player, to Hurley thinking he could convert Mahaney to a PG, to his Good Morning America interviews.

You think AK made 2mm/year the last two years? He may also go late enough this year where he gets almost nothing guaranteed. He was also being discussed as a potential late first. The wise choice would have been to go.

Definitely. The numbers being thrown around behind the scenes are crazy. You think he came back for the vibes? He came back because it was lucrative.

 

[RuffRuff]

I don’t see this “hype” you see. Every praise lobbied his way has been due to what he’s accomplished. He’s earned it. And people talk about his game rather accurately. Everyone describes him as a connector. Who is overrating him?

You think he was expected to be a "connector" last year?

You have to ask, what would have come of Alex Karaban had he gone to Ohio St? I think AK is luckier UConn found him that the vice versa, although UConn was also very lucky to get Alex the person.

 

[HuskiesFourLife]

He’s been absent for about 3 games. Love him but he’s vanished

He’s been hurting. Quad. However- 18 points in the last game. Tonight he was a shell of himself. Assuming the injury effected him

 

[KingAG]

You think he was expected to be a "connector" last year?

You have to ask, what would have come of Alex Karaban had he gone to Ohio St? I think AK is luckier UConn found him that the vice versa, although UConn was also very lucky to get Alex the person.

What would’ve come of Derek Jeter if he was drafted by the Rockies. What would’ve come of Draymond if he was drafted by the Nets. What would’ve come of Tristen Newton had he stayed at ECU. We can do this all day.

And no, UConn was lucky to get Alex the player.

 

[CardiacAndre7]

I don’t see this “hype” you see. Every praise lobbied his way has been due to what he’s accomplished. He’s earned it. And people talk about his game rather accurately. Everyone describes him as a connector. Who is overrating him?

A lot of us, for one

 

[RuffRuff]

Definitely. The numbers being thrown around behind the scenes are crazy. You think he came back for the vibes? He came back because it was lucrative.

From what I heard, he got 2mm this year. Maybe 1.5mm last.

You have to get your NBA career going young if you have the remote chance of going first in AK's profile. It's the same reason AJx went.

 

[superjohn]

Definitely. The numbers being thrown around behind the scenes are crazy. You think he came back for the vibes? He came back because it was lucrative.

What are the numbers being thrown around behind the scenes?

 

[KingAG]

A lot of us, for one

Who?

 

[KingAG]

What are the numbers being thrown around behind the scenes?

Taris alone was rumored to cost well over 3M.

Edit: that’s at least what he was being offered elsewhere.