Creighton Post game thread

[uconnfan68]

The officials had a couple bad calls late, but the foul shot disparity was 18-4. That's right. UConn had 4 foul shots the entire game. Can that be right?

Lucky we got 4.

 

[UCTitleTown]

I still think we can do damage in the NCAA Tournament. We historically underperform in the Big East Tournament. No one remembers years later who won the Big East Tournament.

 

[EnochRoot]

It’s hard - he’s such a limited athlete. Painfully slow. His entire game is about being in the right place.

Did wonder if there was a point in that game where should have gone small to put the extra shooter on the floor against the drop. Let Alex play the 5 with help.

They were at their best when both Alex and Johnson were on the bench. What was it? A 12-0 run? Then Reed tweaked his ankle and Johnson was back in. Soon after Alex was in and the run evaporated.

 

[caw]

You do realize our fans are the most obnoxious of them all right? Can’t throw stones. I’ll be pulling for both. For this league to sustain any credibility it has to do it in the tourney.

Yeah, nah. There is obnoxious. There is rude. Then there were Creighton fans.

SJU fans were pretty bad but they directed things at me (an adult). So maybe when I calm down I’ll change my mind on rooting for SJU.

I want Creighton to lose every game they play for eternity because of who Creighton fans targeted. Nothing bad enough could happen to them. Nothing.

 

[RuffRuff]

Yeah, nah. There is obnoxious. There is rude. Then there were Creighton fans.

SJU fans were pretty bad but they directed things at me (an adult). So maybe when I calm down I’ll change my mind on rooting for SJU.

I want Creighton to lose every game they play for eternity because of who Creighton fans targeted. Nothing bad enough could happen to them. Nothing.

Have you been to a game at PC?

Hurley has stimulated something in Creighton fans that I’m not sure a coach has done with another fan base. You get those Midwesterners isolated out the cornfields some good antagonistic attention and they really unlock.

 

[J187Money]

Yeah, nah. There is obnoxious. There is rude. Then there were Creighton fans.

SJU fans were pretty bad but they directed things at me (an adult). So maybe when I calm down I’ll change my mind on rooting for SJU.

I want Creighton to lose every game they play for eternity because of who Creighton fans targeted. Nothing bad enough could happen to them. Nothing.

lol I give them a pass because they have never won anything. Just jealousy. Haters. Yawn.

Being on top of the mountain means people are going to take shots at you. Best revenge is to laugh it off and keep winning.

 

[BlueandOG]

The loss is pretty simple: our team did not play very well. Perhaps they had an emotional let down after the big game the prior evening. Perhaps they were nervous playing a team that beats us almost every time we play them. Perhaps they didn't have the legs to play late at night on back to back dates. Whatever.

I am confident they will use the time to rest and prepare for the NCAA. If we end up playing a 1, that will be an opportunity to shine. Hurley will get them ready.

 

[superjohn]

Have you been to a game at PC?

Hurley has stimulated something in Creighton fans that I’m not sure a coach has done with another fan base. You get those Midwesterners isolated out the cornfields some good antagonistic attention and they really unlock.

Providence is the only college hoops environment I've been to where there's fist fights.

It's bizarre to me how people freak out so much about words, there's actually people who call words violence nowadays.

I've never verbally got into it with fans of another team before. The whole concept of it is silly to me other than the fun playful ribbing each other. I'm the guy at home games for the teams I root for who always goes up to the fans of the other team to make friends with them and talk about their team/the game. If I'm in a hostile environment I break bread with the home team fans. It's never not worked out for me.

 

[alphasigko]

They’re the exact same team they were in November.

Sadly THIS.....

 

[yungdowork]

I think someone needed to pull Liam aside and just tell him to be patient on offense. He obviously has so much talent, but seems like he's making the game harder for himself right now. He took 9 more shots than anyone on the team and there was quite a few that weren't great shots. I don't think there's a ton of instances where taking 20 shots with 0 assists is great offensive execution.

 

[Hunt for 7]

It’s hard - he’s such a limited athlete. Painfully slow. His entire game is about being in the right place.

Did wonder if there was a point in that game where should have gone small to put the extra shooter on the floor against the drop. Let Alex play the 5 with help.

I have said that same thing about going small in several posts. Not sure why we did not make any adjustments. We were not shooting well and Kalkbrenner was shutting down the shots at the basket. Hmmmmm let’s try something to get him away from doing that. Even playing some inside out ball with Reed anything because we needed to change the clear path the game was heading.

The comeback is just part of the college game. Unless you are a really great team every team gives up those big leads if they are playing a team with reasonable talent.

But the lack of adjustments let this tournament go chalk. St Johns was the best team this year. Creighton finished second. It is just amazing how bad Creighton looks when playing other teams then Green has his career game versus us. He won’t score 20 points combined in the remaining games Creighton will play. My guess is they are out in the second round.

 

[cellocgg]

At what point does any of the blame for the poor behavior also get shared with the Creighton fans who cuss out and throw stuff at Hurley and our players when we play in Omaha

Not excusing Hurley but the Creighton fans cussing out and throwing stuff at our players and coaches shouldn't get a free pass.

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[superjohn]

At what point does any of the blame for the poor behavior also get shared with the Creighton fans who cuss out and throw stuff at Hurley and our players when we play in Omaha

Not excusing Hurley but the Creighton fans cussing out and throwing stuff at our players and coaches shouldn't get a free pass.

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What was thrown at Hurley and UConn players?

 

[cellocgg]

What was thrown at Hurley and UConn players?

They were throwing plastic bottles at our guys entering and exiting the tunnel in Omaha

Last year (after Hurley understandably, albeit stupidly, made his comment to a fan) Creighton ADs sent an email to the students telling them to knock their behavior off

 

[superjohn]

They were throwing bottles at our guys entering and exiting the tunnel in Omaha

You have any video of this? Any articles referencing this? I watched every game we played them in Omaha and never saw this. Haven't seen any video of this and haven't seen any reference to it. I saw Hurley chants, Hurley threatening to knock a fan out if he stepped over the barrier and the two rings thing.

 

[RuffRuff]

One story I thought worth sharing - Liam’s mom, who is passionate and at everything, had seats about 5-6 rows off the floor kitty corner to the UConn bench. She’s always with the grandpa, who is a big dude.

Anyway, after the half she tries to slide over to the other end of floor, takes a seat a couple rows off the floor. She gets kicked out by security, then tries to move a couple rows back, also gets kicked out. Then gets into a fueled shouting match with security through going back to her original seat. I’m not sure if she moves around for superstition or to be closer to Liam on the offensive side of the floor. She did the same stuff at Texas.

This is a Hurley kind of mom. Liam being in the E60 was interesting BTW.

 

[cellocgg]

You have any video of this? Any articles referencing this? I watched every game we played them in Omaha and never saw this. Haven't seen any video of this and haven't seen any reference to it. I saw Hurley chants, Hurley threatening to knock a fan out if he stepped over the barrier and the two rings thing.

I didn't see it myself but a few UConn fans on the college basketball subreddit corroborated it. Given the fact it happens pretty often in sports I'm not surprised

The email to Creighton students absolutely happened as one posted a picture of it on the same subreddit when it was sent out

 

[gsmooth]

I think someone needed to pull Liam aside and just tell him to be patient on offense. He obviously has so much talent, but seems like he's making the game harder for himself right now. He took 9 more shots than anyone on the team and there was quite a few that weren't great shots. I don't think there's a ton of instances where taking 20 shots with 0 assists is great offensive execution.

His perimeter shooting has abandoned him. Since that inferno in Omaha, he has been shooting 25% from 3. And some of these misses in the last few games are wiiiiide open looks and he isn't knocking them down.

I thought he should have pulled up and shot the 8-10 footer with just enough space between him and Kalkbrenner (shooting over Kalk when he standing in front is tough). I would rather he shoot an uncontested 8-10 footer than shoot a heavily contested shot 2-3 footer with Kalkbrenner in his face.

 

[Woodson]

You have any video of this? Any articles referencing this? I watched every game we played them in Omaha and never saw this. Haven't seen any video of this and haven't seen any reference to it. I saw Hurley chants, Hurley threatening to knock a fan out if he stepped over the barrier and the two rings thing.

Oh my gosh Hurley threatened them?? Call the police!

 

[Hankster]

Yea defense was the issue. Can’t be down 17 and expect to win. We ran plays for McNeeley because thats how we beat the drop coverage D. He has a bad shooting game. We didn’t have AK most of the game, Ball was bottled up and can’t create. So McNeeley was only one.

However Green was not to be denied last night. He scored in every possible. Het the tone.

 

[superjohn]

I didn't see it myself but a few UConn fans on the college basketball subreddit corroborated it. Given the fact it happens pretty often in sports I'm not surprised

The email to Creighton students absolutely happened as one posted a picture of it on the same subreddit when it was sent out

The letter to the students said nothing about things being thrown at Hurley and the players. It was words and gestures.

 

[yungdowork]

His perimeter shooting has abandoned him. Since that inferno in Omaha, he has been shooting 25% from 3. And some of these misses in the last few games are wiiiiide open looks and he isn't knocking them down.

I thought he should have pulled up and shot the 8-10 footer with just enough space between him and Kalkbrenner (shooting over Kalk when he standing in front is tough). I would rather he shoot an uncontested 8-10 footer than shoot a heavily contested shot 2-3 footer with Kalkbrenner in his face.

In basically all of his best games, he's taken 10+ free throws. When he's not getting those calls, like versus Kalkbrenner who never gets fouls called on him, he's definitely had some inefficient shooting nights. I think it's especially hard because we definitely ask him to take a lot of tough shots because we don't have a ton of guys who can create their own offense.

 

[RuffRuff]

I have said that same thing about going small in several posts. Not sure why we did not make any adjustments. We were not shooting well and Kalkbrenner was shutting down the shots at the basket. Hmmmmm let’s try something to get him away from doing that. Even playing some inside out ball with Reed anything because we needed to change the clear path the game was heading.

The comeback is just part of the college game. Unless you are a really great team every team gives up those big leads if they are playing a team with reasonable talent.

But the lack of adjustments let this tournament go chalk. St Johns was the best team this year. Creighton finished second. It is just amazing how bad Creighton looks when playing other teams then Green has his career game versus us. He won’t score 20 points combined in the remaining games Creighton will play. My guess is they are out in the second round.

I was at the DePaul game so I saw the bad side of Creighton.

They’re a funny team - a few too many clunky players. McAndrew may end up being a decent player but he looks like a fawn out there right now and fairly useless outside of jacking threes.

I will say this - Green is a solid player. He’s got size and is a good athlete for his size, much better than Alex athletically. He is something we don’t have, and McDermott knew it, as he did with Neal.

They will be out in the second round because while they could be interesting not so much that they can beat a one seed.

 

[gsmooth]

In basically all of his best games, he's taken 10+ free throws. When he's not getting those calls, like versus Kalkbrenner who never gets fouls called on him, he's definitely had some inefficient shooting nights. I think it's especially hard because we definitely ask him to take a lot of tough shots because we don't have a ton of guys who can create their own offense.

That's the #1 thing I want from the transfer portal this year is a big PG that can run the offense and another big wing that can create their own offense.

 

[RuffRuff]

That's the #1 thing I want from the transfer portal this year is a big PG that can run the offense and another big wing that can create their own offense.

There are not a lot of those to go around - we’ll be part of a large auction. Let’s see what happens.