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St John's comes to mind. They play a number of their earlier games on campus, and their bigger games in the Garden.
CRDA Assails Cuts That Could Lead XL Center To Close
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They host the Crossroads classic but I'm pretty sure all official home games for Butler, Indiana, Notre Dame and Purdue are on campus
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Temple has hosted Kansas in Philly at Wells Fargo. Ohio State has played games at Nationwide?
I guess the point is that playing in multiple arenas is not a pro thing at all. But some colleges do it. I am sure more than I can think of.
I remember Wake used to do it years ago. Georgetown occasionally.
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Right, but all those aren't 50/50 splits like Gampel and the XL.
I wouldn't mind UConn playing in Hartford over break, but when students are on campus games should be at Gampel
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St Johns is closer to a split.
Kelseypup's proposal isn't a split. Playing a game or 2 at MS and Bridgeport seems like a pretty cool idea to me.
Nova played Notre Dame at Newark last year and we play the Zags as part of the double header with you guys at MSG. I have my tickets again this year for that road trip. Those are neutral sites, kind of, but a similar idea. We could have definitely chosen home games instead of those match-ups.
Anyway, I'm looking forward to a trip to XL this year. It's been a while for me. I thought is was a decent venue from my memory.
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Well there will never, ever, be a shortage of piss and moan. Students can road trip. If they don't more seats for the regional fans. You'll still have like more than a handful of games on campus.
~1 at bridgeport, ~2 at MS, ~2 at XL, and ~10 at Gampel.
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UConn Men’s/Women’s Basketball and hockey have played regular season games in Bridgeport previously. Attendance was meh outside of the Women.
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Pretry sure the men sold out both games there, and they were against true cupcakes.
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You are correct on MBB - Eastern Washington and Columbia were sell-outs. It was hockey that was less than expected.
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Based only on 1 game I attended in Bridgeport, it'd be shocking for anyone to believe even a few hundred live bodies attended UConn's 2015 Colorado College game. Not exactly a local opponent or school with huge alumni #s in CT, but ...
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You can’t compare UConn’s situation to Nova or St Johns. Both those schools are located in the same city as the pro arena they use. They really aren’t going that far. Having UConn go across the state to Bridgeport or South to Mohegan is not ideal and I can’t think of any other school that travels that far to play a large amount of regular season games.
Like others have said, UConn may be the biggest show in the state but they aren’t the pro team. They shouldn’t have to play games all over the state. I get it that Storrs is remotely located but so are many major universities and they don’t seem to have trouble attracting fans.
Like others have said, UConn may be the biggest show in the state but they aren’t the pro team. They shouldn’t have to play games all over the state. I get it that Storrs is remotely located but so are many major universities and they don’t seem to have trouble attracting fans.
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Pretty much there are only a handful
of schools drawing in basketball. The arenas all over the country are empty at this time in the season.
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UConn is in a unique position, so I don't know if precedent matters.
You should do what's right for UConn no matter what others are doing.
You can always argue why the precedents don't matter, but I'll explain Nova's position in case of it's of interest, because I think there is a parallel.
Nova has played a number of games, even home games, out of town specifically to reach alumni groups. We played a home game in Allentown last night. This is the second time we've had a home game there. The arena is only a few years old and my guess is that it's comparable to Mohegan Sun. We'll play a game on Long Island. We have the ND game in North Jersey last year and the Zags at MSG this year. These are all done intentionally to play close in alumni markets - the Lehigh Valley, New York / LI metro areas.
What Nova does probably doesn't matter, but with UConn's unique position in the state, a less than ideal on-campus stadium (as is Nova's), other attractive venues not too far away, the proposal to spread some games around is interesting.
The whole point of having games across the state is getting more people interested in Uconn basketball. Not everyone wants to drive to Storrs. I would only have max of 5 home games away from Gampel and these games would take place during the holiday break when students are away. Money is tight in the athletic department got do what's best in generating more revenue for the athletic department. Tomorrow night probably only have 6-7k in attendance against BU.
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The thought of selling the XL Center to a private, for profit entity is fantasyland. An owner could operate the facility at a profit, but not if they were responsible for capital improvements and had to pay property taxes. Throw in the age of the XL Center and the financial condition of Hartford and the state of Connecticut and I find it hard to believe they will find a buyer.
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I think they find a buyer. It will just depend on the price.
Whoever buys it will make minimal improvements and squeeze out what profitability is left then close it up and sell the property.
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What about buy the place and tear it down to use that property for something else. Any lease terms given to UConn or the Wolfpack won’t be as good a deal as they get now from the CRDA. Looks like the bell has tolled on that place..last one out turn out the lights.
That's been my thought on what might happen. If the place isn't profitable as a sports/entertainment venue, the property might be useful in another capacity. Given the place bleeds money, it might eventually be a property that is virtually given away.
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Just because a property is put up for sale doesn't mean it will sell or sell any time soon. Or, if it does sell it could have restrictions on it in terms of giving the State and/or the City first right of refusal to buy it back if it goes up for sale or if demolition permits are applied for, etc. So, lots of possible wrinkles could be planned for...
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It’s pretty clear that it the CRDA and the City have been told to sell the property. There isn’t any more money coming from the state except for the $40 million to buy the atrium and get it ready to sell.
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I don't disagree, but my points still stand.
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A couple thoughts I had:
I think MSG may potentially buy the arena.
One weird reason: why did they paint the top of the dasher boards red?
That's not a UConn or state of CT color. It does fit the Wolfpack color scheme.
UConn was going to sign a 20 year lease, ONLY if the renovations were completed. I bet it wouldn't have been painted red if they were signing a 20 year commitment.
I wonder if MSG buys the building and Wolfpack/UConn game day profits other than UConn ticket revenue go to MSG and UConn pays even a higher rent fee for a reduced amounts of games:
5 top tier men's bball games
5 top tier women's bball games
5 top tier hockey games
Rest on campus. Probably would be a wash in terms of UConn and state costs/revenue.
State doesn't have to pay 1.5 million Wolfpack affialate fee.
Not owning the building, the state doesn't have to cover loses. So the
1.5-2.0 million that they lose each yr would be covered by MSG.
Wolfpack have a place to play that they own. They profit from all WP events and cover all operations. They would pay spectra or get all their own people in there.
UConn gets all ticket revenue for the higher attended games at XL. May profit from having less overhead/rent on 17 hockey games, 8 men's games, and 7 women's games.
UConn paying rent on 32 games?
Or UConn paying a slightly higher rent for 15 games?
Those extra 17 games cost UConn $$$ if not highly attended.
Put those 17 remaining lesser attended games on campus and UConn may profit from the no rent and the game day profits on campus vs XL.
It would be SAD and really bad foresight of attracting future millennials if they tear it down. Perfect location. Downtown arenas are the majority and suburb arena fail to attract fans. Busway, train station, highway access, new apartments etc.
Lots of great memories there. It's called the Civic Center for a reason and they better not tear down a colliseum dedicated to veterans
I think MSG may potentially buy the arena.
One weird reason: why did they paint the top of the dasher boards red?
That's not a UConn or state of CT color. It does fit the Wolfpack color scheme.
UConn was going to sign a 20 year lease, ONLY if the renovations were completed. I bet it wouldn't have been painted red if they were signing a 20 year commitment.
I wonder if MSG buys the building and Wolfpack/UConn game day profits other than UConn ticket revenue go to MSG and UConn pays even a higher rent fee for a reduced amounts of games:
5 top tier men's bball games
5 top tier women's bball games
5 top tier hockey games
Rest on campus. Probably would be a wash in terms of UConn and state costs/revenue.
State doesn't have to pay 1.5 million Wolfpack affialate fee.
Not owning the building, the state doesn't have to cover loses. So the
1.5-2.0 million that they lose each yr would be covered by MSG.
Wolfpack have a place to play that they own. They profit from all WP events and cover all operations. They would pay spectra or get all their own people in there.
UConn gets all ticket revenue for the higher attended games at XL. May profit from having less overhead/rent on 17 hockey games, 8 men's games, and 7 women's games.
UConn paying rent on 32 games?
Or UConn paying a slightly higher rent for 15 games?
Those extra 17 games cost UConn $$$ if not highly attended.
Put those 17 remaining lesser attended games on campus and UConn may profit from the no rent and the game day profits on campus vs XL.
It would be SAD and really bad foresight of attracting future millennials if they tear it down. Perfect location. Downtown arenas are the majority and suburb arena fail to attract fans. Busway, train station, highway access, new apartments etc.
Lots of great memories there. It's called the Civic Center for a reason and they better not tear down a colliseum dedicated to veterans
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If that happens then turn the lights off for Hartford county because there's no coming back from it..
And speaking for myself, I will not be attending games in Storrs if this does come to pass.
And speaking for myself, I will not be attending games in Storrs if this does come to pass.
I don’t disagree with you. I’m just saying financially this is unsustainable. If a P5 invite is not in the cards, it is like the Yard Goats playing in Yankee Stadium. The XL is just too big for its tenants
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