Coverage in the big city

[billybud]

If you are a UConn guy....you don't ask for whom the bell tolls.

 

[upstater]

I'm actually a UConn fan but I don't believe in spreading fantasy in the hopes that people believe it's true. UConn is on SNY so that network can spread into Connecticut, not the other way around. It's wishful thinking that there is a significant Huskies fanbase in New York.

The uconn fan base is so strong in New York that the Uconn women knock the Syracuse men off the channel when going head to head. Think about that one.

 

[upstater]

Basketball? Yes, UCONN does well with NYC DMA viewership.

Football? Not at all. Horrible, in fact.

Uconn football doesn't do well, and neither does Rutgers. outside of ND and PSU no one does well (I.e above a 3 rating).

 

[businesslawyer]

Paranoid much?

I must use "paranoid" differently than you. I don't use it to mean "showed ridiculous logical flaws in my statement."

You recognize I hope that SNY has the technology to show UConn only on Connecticut cable systems and show something else in NY. So your theory is they show it in NY where nobody watches it because they like not being able to generate ad revenue?

Go away.

 

[upstater]

http://syracusefan.com/threads/looks-like-the-prov-game-will-be-tape-delayed.40752/

This is what happens in NY when Uconn plays.

 

[DarthGrumpy]

Not photo shopped, took this picture on the PATH train from Hoboken NJ to Herald Square in Manhattan on my way to check into a hotel the afternoon of the 2014 NCAA Championship game. My heart would like to thank my wife for letting me go out for the night and have a blast, my liver, not quite so happy.

 

[IceBus]

I must use "paranoid" differently than you. I don't use it to mean "showed ridiculous logical flaws in my statement."

You recognize I hope that SNY has the technology to show UConn only on Connecticut cable systems and show something else in NY. So your theory is they show it in NY where nobody watches it because they like not being able to generate ad revenue?

Go away.

Your first paragraph makes no sense and I never said what you're saying my theory is. SNY bought UConn rights so the network could expand in Connecticut. The UConn fanbase in New York City is totally negligible to any advertiser!

 

[pj]

Your first paragraph makes no sense and I never said what you're saying my theory is. SNY bought UConn rights so the network could expand in Connecticut. The UConn fanbase in New York City is totally negligible to any advertiser!

SNY bought UConn's rights because they are exceptionally valuable in Connecticut ... but they telecast UConn in NYC because UConn games have more value in NYC than any other content they could show in that time slot.

So the UConn fanbase in NYC cannot be totally negligible, unless all possible SNY content is of negligible worth.

 

[AZHuskiePop]

http://syracusefan.com/threads/looks-like-the-prov-game-will-be-tape-delayed.40752/

This is what happens in NY when Uconn plays.

That confirms my hatred from

Uconn football doesn't do well, and neither does Rutgers. outside of ND and PSU no one does well (I.e above a 3 rating).

Cue up Liza Minelli...
Start spreading the news, I'm leaving today
I want to be a part of it, New York, New York

You stole my Post from a couple of days ago ,you old Swamprat , that's the song our AD should be singing to the B12,over and over.
If Connecticut isn't playing the New York City Card for all its worth they should all be fired.
PS Florida sucks ,AZ rules . The humidity there would kill me. Plus your highest peak is about 345 ft. If global warming is true FLA will be smaller than CT.In AZ I can play 18 holes of golf in the morning and be skiing by lunch.
Then cook out in my backyard for dinner.
Personally I would pass up the skiing for an afternoon nap before grilling some steaks. I can see all the snow I want from the 18th fairway 30 miles away in the Superstion Mountains , I love it here but I do spend half the Summer in Connecticut. The only downside is this snowbird infestation , especially from North of the Border but you guys have the same problem.

 

[BoatShow]

Not to pump the brakes on your trolling, but this was a televised broadcast.

We didn't have to travel because SNY, (that's SportsNewYork), puts on a nice UConn pregame studio show, shows the game and then wraps it up with a nice UConn postgame studio show.

They would do the same for whatever sorry-ass program you root for, but perhaps there's just not the interest.

(Insert sad trombone music.)

I think he's being facetious.

 

[IceBus]

SNY bought UConn's rights because they are exceptionally valuable in Connecticut ... but they telecast UConn in NYC because UConn games have more value in NYC than any other content they could show in that time slot.

So the UConn fanbase in NYC cannot be totally negligible, unless all possible SNY content is of negligible worth.

I agree with this. Pardon my exaggeration.

 

[ThetaZoo]

I agree with this. Pardon my exaggeration.

You can't help it. That's what trolls do.

 

[upstater]

Your first paragraph makes no sense and I never said what you're saying my theory is. SNY bought UConn rights so the network could expand in Connecticut. The UConn fanbase in New York City is totally negligible to any advertiser!

If it's totally negligible then Syracuse and the other schools gave infinitesimal interest, since they get preempted.

Tranghese said Uconn is the school that "moves the needle" in NYC.

 

[businesslawyer]

I agree with this. Pardon my exaggeration.

You didn't exaggerate. You flat out misspoke. Of course SNY had a strategy, for its CT market, of using UConn to sell the Mets in CT. That proves that UConn has value in CT. But no one was arguing with you that it didn't.

If a program has literally (and I may be the only person in America still using that word correctly) all of its football and mens basketball games (and I won't even point out that it's all of our women's games as well) that are not locked into a national contract broadcast into ALL of Metro New York on a New York cable station (be it MSG, Yes or SNY), how can that not tell you that their games have value in New York?

So either you're a 10 year old who hasn't developed intellectually yet, in which case I apologize for attacking you but please remind your mommy not to let you play with grown ups unsupervised, or you're an idiot, or you're a troll. (I should recognize that they are not mutually exclusive).

I was right the first time. Go away.

 

[uconndogs]

You didn't exaggerate. You flat out misspoke. Of course SNY had a strategy, for its CT market, of using UConn to sell the Mets in CT. That proves that UConn has value in CT. But no one was arguing with you that it didn't.

If a program has literally (and I may be the only person in America still using that word correctly) all of its football and mens basketball games (and I won't even point out that it's all of our women's games as well) that are not locked into a national contract broadcast into ALL of Metro New York on a New York cable station (be it MSG, Yes or SNY), how can that not tell you that their games have value in New York?

So either you're a 10 year old who hasn't developed intellectually yet, in which case I apologize for attacking you but please remind your mommy not to let you play with grown ups unsupervised, or you're an idiot, or you're a troll. (I should recognize that they are not mutually exclusive).

I was right the first time. Go away.

So.....if you're IceBus right now it's a pretty **y morning......

Ouch!

 

[businesslawyer]

So.....if you're IceBus right now it's a pretty **y morning.

Ouch!

I'm in about the holiday spirit you would expect, being in my office (which is 90% empty) trying to get a deal signed up when I'm being tortured by the other side and don't know that it will happen.

Merry duck*ing Xmas.

 

[HuskyBandDad]

http://syracusefan.com/threads/looks-like-the-prov-game-will-be-tape-delayed.40752/

This is what happens in NY when Uconn plays.

I can not like this enough every time someone posts this. This alone should get us in a P5 if it is about TV eyeballs.

 

[Kolumbo]

I can not like this enough every time someone posts this. This alone should get us in a P5 if it is about TV eyeballs.

quotes like this from that syracuse board..."what a ing joke. would love to know who at sny makes this decision. new york's college team or a women's team from connecticut, unbelievable."...pretty much make it clear which program is truly "NY's team." Denial aint just a river in Egypt. Great stuff.

 

[Stinger92860]

Not photo shopped, took this picture on the PATH train from Hoboken NJ to Herald Square in Manhattan on my way to check into a hotel the afternoon of the 2014 NCAA Championship game. My heart would like to thank my wife for letting me go out for the night and have a blast, my liver, not quite so happy.

These are on metro north also.

 

[zls44]

I'm in about the holiday spirit you would expect, being in my office (which is 90% empty) trying to get a deal signed up when I'm being tortured by the other side and don't know that it will happen.

Merry duck*ing Xmas.

Hope it worked out

 

[Phillydave]

Uconn football doesn't do well, and neither does Rutgers. outside of ND and PSU no one does well (I.e above a 3 rating).

You are just factually wrong that RU doesn't do well.

Rutgers has played in 4 of the top 5 highest rated college football games on ESPN in the NYC DMA....and in all 5 of the top 5 highest rated games on ESPN2 in the NYC DMA.

Rutgers has played in the highest rated game in NYC DMA on the following networks:

ESPN
ESPN2
ESPNU
Big Ten Network
SNY
CBS Sports Network
Yes Network

 

[Phillydave]

If it's totally negligible then Syracuse and the other schools gave infinitesimal interest, since they get preempted.

Tranghese said Uconn is the school that "moves the needle" in NYC.

For basketball. Basketball. He was so clueless that he didn't even take football, which is what expansion is all about, into consideration.
IN NYC, no one moves the needle more than Rutgers for football. That's been proven by RU's ratings.

 

[pj]

You are just factually wrong that RU doesn't do well.

Rutgers has played in 4 of the top 5 highest rated college football games on ESPN in the NYC DMA....and in all 5 of the top 5 highest rated games on ESPN2 in the NYC DMA.

Rutgers has played in the highest rated game in NYC DMA on the following networks:

ESPN
ESPN2
ESPNU
Big Ten Network
SNY
CBS Sports Network
Yes Network

Northern New Jersey is almost half the NYC DMA, and Rutgers is the only football playing university located in the NYC DMA. It would be amazing if Rutgers didn't do this well. Connecticut contributes 7% of the NYC DMA and UConn is located in an entirely different DMA. The fact that we have significant pull in Rutgers's DMA is notable.

 

[upstater]

For basketball. Basketball. He was so clueless that he didn't even take football, which is what expansion is all about, into consideration.
IN NYC, no one moves the needle more than Rutgers for football. That's been proven by RU's ratings.

This isn't even remotely close to the truth. You're talking about ESPN contracts. Meanwhile, the schools that really move the needle are on NBC and ABC. Ever compare an ESPN rating to what ND gets on NBC?

You're getting maybe 20% of the picture.

And by the way, the bball ratings are just as good as the football ratings in the region. When people say the move is all about football,they are talking about GOOD football, not bad football. In other words, people well know that a Georgia football game is going to blow away a Georgia bball game in the ratings. But in the northeast, you'll find a UConn bball game drawing as much interest as a Rutgers football game. Heck, rodeo beats BC football for interest in Boston.

Again, GOOD football.

 

[upstater]

You are just factually wrong that RU doesn't do well.

Rutgers has played in 4 of the top 5 highest rated college football games on ESPN in the NYC DMA....and in all 5 of the top 5 highest rated games on ESPN2 in the NYC DMA.

Rutgers has played in the highest rated game in NYC DMA on the following networks:

ESPN
ESPN2
ESPNU
Big Ten Network
SNY
CBS Sports Network
Yes Network

You left out the fact that your opponent on BTN regularly draws more eyeballs in NYC than Rutgers.

 

[upstater]

You left out the fact that your opponent on BTN regularly draws more eyeballs in NYC than Rutgers.

Those PSU or ND games pull a lot of 3-4 ratings in NYC. Granted they have a huge advantage of being on network. I'm sure RU would do well on network too. But the fact remains, the ESPN or BTN games are not the only measures of what moves the needle in NYC.

Here's an article from 4 years ago: http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052748703467004575463843751580442

 

[billybud]

'Only one market in the entire country had a lower TV rating for last year's BCS national-championship game (New York was 55th, Providence, R.I., was 56th). So there's a case to be made that being New York's college-football team in recent years is a bit like being Albuquerque's curling team."

ouchee! I think that is what many of us have been thinking. New York, like the northeast, has not built a significant college football following.

Not to say that it can't be built, as the article infers. Just that NY has some ways to go.

 

[billybud]

"New York City is so dynamic that it's an everything city, and there's so much going on that the only way you're going to capture the city is through winning. What we're doing is setting up an apparatus to where, when we have success, we'll have those inroads in New York City," he said.

Yep...winning. That has always been the answer to most questions.

 

[upstater]

'Only one market in the entire country had a lower TV rating for last year's BCS national-championship game (New York was 55th, Providence, R.I., was 56th). So there's a case to be made that being New York's college-football team in recent years is a bit like being Albuquerque's curling team."

ouchee! I think that is what many of us have been thinking. New York, like the northeast, has not built a significant college football following.

Not to say that it can't be built, as the article infers. Just that NY has some ways to go.

The flip side is how college football fans tout Birminghams great football ratings. Who cares? No one lives in Birmingham. I believe you made this same mistake in the past when you came here touting Louisville's market. You said that they had the best bball market in the nation. But here's why NYC counts, and it has nothing to do with bad ABQ curling analogies. When UK pulled a 45 rating in Louisville for the men's NC ball game, that amounted to fewer people watching than the 4.8 rating the Uconn women got in NYC in the F4.

 

[billybud]

I know nothing about basketball...don't watch basketball...

It's Louisville's football market, ESPN's #9 ranked football market in 2013, that interested me. And no, folks weren't all tuned in to watch awful Kentucky.

If NYC is such a draw...why does it not even nibble at being in the top 25 ESPN metered markets for football?

I get it that the city is huge...and thus maybe a couple of hundred thousand must watch football...but they don't make a blip on ratings.