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These people are out in full force against the XL remodel too (ie. Joe Marlakey). They do realize they're driving out the only sources of entertainment our State has left, correct? Are these people stupid, or what? The State already sucks as it is, I couldn't imagine living here without the XL Center and UConn/UConn Football in the Fall. This State is looking to commit suicide and if this type of hawing brings these efforts down there's no reason to live here unless you have a cushy job and/or family reasons. None.
Where do they live? Fairfield County? If so they get their entertainment(including sports) in NYC and see anything north of Meriden as a waste of taxpayers(their) money. If they had their way there wouldn't be a UConn, and XL Center. Just a population of servants that pay taxes and keep quiet.
 
How much negative trash talking can you put into one article.

"Any football stadium is empty almost every day of the year. "

What the $&&% does that mean? So basically he is arguing that football shouldn't exist anywhere at any level.
 
Don't know him.
Never knew him.
Don't want to know him.
Will never vote for him....
But he reminds me of people that will show up only if a team wins, i.e. to WBB game because they are on top or will support MBB or show up at a tailgate when the teams get back on winning track.
I picture him wearing a flipping pink hat with the Husky wolf on it .
Easy to tear things down when the going is rough.
Much better for all of us to continue to fight the fight together and ride Jerks like this out of our bloodied arena
Get the Flux out of here..
 
Serious question. What is the cost differential between funding an FCS team and an FBS team? It isn't like funding an FCS team is free.
 
Failed political stooge looking for attention. At least the Not a dime back guy had a mental illness as an excuse.
 
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Step outside the Storrs and BY Bubble and imagine what the rest of the world thinks about, perceives UConn FB is all about.
 
Where do they live? Fairfield County? If so they get their entertainment(including sports) in NYC and see anything north of Meriden as a waste of taxpayers(their) money.
Meriden? That far north? ;)
 
He is a lawyer and would probably defend the Hartford minor league ballpark boondoggle and in the same breath tell you how our state flagship should be solely about education and let's not talk about UConn's tuition costs but rather blame UConn sports to contributing to our states finacial woes. But don't bring up ESPN and their tax breaks and their controversial stance on the ACC expanding with UConn which certainly would have been a plus for those tax dollars spent on ESPN. So as a conservative I find this kind of republican by definition a RINO. A lawyer who has probably served on executive boards with companies who push paper and make nothing. This guy is some kinda-stupid, does he not realize in his version of failed UConn football when this team was at its worst, the name on the stadium changed, and I suppose Pratt&Whitney were allowed to do that for $0.00. So I find his argument so flawed I wonder exactly what kinda of a lawyer was he? Obviously not a good one!

Well, here he is if you need his services. Kevin F. Rennie
 
Tempted to say that if you haven't heard of Kevin Rennie then you either do not live in CT, or do not read the Courant. He is a fiscally conservative former House minority leader who is fairly liberal compared to most R's these days on social issues. He has a point and having a respectfull dicussion on this topic is what we should be doing. His column highlights the new reality for UConn. The Edsall 2.0 era may be UConn's last 3 years in FBS. If HCRE is not successful, UConn will be forced into a major philosophical change in their athletics program.
 
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He is a fiscally conservative former House minority leader who is fairly liberal compared to most R's these days on social issues. He has a point and having a respectfull dicussion on this topic is what we should be doing. His column highlights the new reality for UConn. The Edsall 2.0 era may be UConn's last 3 years in FBS. If HCRE is not successful, UConn will be forced into a major philosophical change in their athletics program.
A respectful discussion..this topic ???
"Major philosophical change..".
Let's hope that day never arrives...
 
So they let the resident conservative do the hack job?

These people are as many as they are old. The public Univ has always, for them, been a soil on their clean pastal shirts.It's a baffle to them that YOU would send your kid to a state school when the state is littered with private universities. Athletics is just one of the many corrupting happenings to be found at our state Univ, so say them. Still a terrible piece of publication-- as written-- for its length, theme circulation. Bad journalism.
 
Chris Powell of the JI asks a few questions: "So if, as Edsall says, he long has regretted his conduct back then, what took him so long to apologize for it? Is his apology sincere, or is Edsall just talking on behalf of his new million-dollar salary at UConn? For that matter, is there any sincerity left in college football these days? Is any self-respect left in Connecticut?"

The answer to that last question is easy.
 
Meriden? That far north? ;)

I think the dividing line is the car dealer district on Mill Plain Road in Fairfield. The line is fuzzy as it runs up through Trumbull, Newtown, Brookfield. Basically its FF County sans Bport.
 
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Rennie is not a neo con. Pretty fair article.
Mmm, not so much for reasons already stated.
 
Serious question. What is the cost differential between funding an FCS team and an FBS team? It isn't like funding an FCS team is free.

I did a study several years ago based on the publicly released revenue numbers for all 120 FBS schools at that time. The numbers were from the early 2000's because they run several years behind. At that time, there were roughly 80 schools, or 2/3 of the entire FBS membership, reporting they were making a profit from their football program. The top 20 or so were making huge profits, in the tens of millions up to as much as 50. The next 30 teams were doing OK, but profits were more in the few to several million dollar range.

One team that stood out to me was Vanderbilt. As a perennial SEC doormat, the Commodores were making a profit right at about a million a year. They were at No. 50 or so. From there down to near 80 the schools were reporting a small profit of less than a million down to negligble numbers, maybe a few hundred thousand. From 80 down to 120, the rest of the schools were losing money, some in the millions.

However, compared to FCS schools, the potential to make money from your football program exists almost exclusively at the FBS level. There are a number of FCS schools that manage to turn a small profit, but you can probably count them on one hand. The rest of them bleed nothing but red ink. That's why the trend over the past 15 years or more has been for FCS programs to upgrade to FBS. They are driven by the mere possibility they may one day get lucky and at least break even or make a small profit. Bowl games are the other incentive. Even a marginal, low payout bowl gets your school and program exposure. You can lose money on the bowl but the benefits from the exposure may outweigh that.

I do find it interesting that Idaho is downgrading to the FCS division. Whether or not that's the start of a trend I don't know. Some schools may be getting tired of chasing the elusive brass ring, especially the ones financially mired in the bottom third of the FBS division.
 
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OK, let's for argument sakes say we decide to go FCS. Anyone know where we will be playing games?
 
OK, let's for argument sakes say we decide to go FCS. Anyone know where we will be playing games?

Shenkman would be just fine considering how many fans would show up.
 
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I did a study several years ago based on the publicly released revenue numbers for all 120 FBS schools at that time. The numbers were from the early 2000's because they run several years behind. At that time, there were roughly 80 schools, or 2/3 of the entire FBS membership, reporting they were making a profit from their football program. The top 20 or so were making huge profits, in the tens of millions up to as much as 50. The next 30 teams were doing OK, but profits were more in the few to several million dollar range.

One team that stood out to me was Vanderbilt. As a perennial SEC doormat, the Commodores were making a profit right at about a million a year. They were at No. 50 or so. From there down to near 80 the schools were reporting a small profit of less than a million down to negligble numbers, maybe a few hundred thousand. From 80 down to 120, the rest of the schools were losing money, some in the millions.

However, compared to FCS schools, the potential to make money from your football program exists almost exclusively at the FBS level. There are a number of FCS schools that manage to turn a small profit, but you can probably count them on one hand. The rest of them bleed nothing but red ink. That's why the trend over the past 15 years or more has been for FCS programs to upgrade to FBS. They are driven by the mere possibility they may one day get lucky and at least break even or make a small profit. Bowl games are the other incentive. Even a marginal, low payout bowl gets your school and program exposure. You can lose money on the bowl but the benefits from the exposure may outweigh that.

I do find it interesting that Idaho is downgrading to the FCS division. Whether or not that's the start of a trend I don't know. Some schools may be getting tired of chasing the elusive brass ring, especially the ones financially mired in the bottom third of the FBS division.

Idaho dropped down because the only home they could find was the Big Sky.

They got kicked out of the Sun Belt.
 
Off campus and 40K for FCS? There will be more folks shopping that day at the outlets

So your solution to drop down would be to build a new stadium? Not sure how that helps.
 
So your solution to drop down would be to build a new stadium? Not sure how that helps.
In terms of the stadium, it would help by owning the building and collecting 100% of the parking and concessions, as opposed to paying rent to the state, but that's about it. Of course 10K paying customers would be grounds for throwing a parade down Hillside Road, but that is beside the point.
 
There may be valid merit for discussing the value of Uconn football, but it's highly questionable whether it should come from Hartford Courant columnists like Mr. Rennie who have all they can do to intelligently discuss subjects they're suppose to know something about. There's a heck of a lot more financial problems affecting the State of Connecticut... than Uconn football. Problems that have gone wanting due to the incompetence shown by state legislators ...including former representative, Kevin Rennie.
 
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