Could UConn leave the Big East if conference realignment revs up again? | The Boneyard

Could UConn leave the Big East if conference realignment revs up again?

Carnac

That venerable sage from the west
Joined
Jan 9, 2015
Messages
15,931
Reaction Score
79,000
Right now, it’s all speculation. But don’t speculate that UConn is packing for a Big East departure. That won’t be happening anytime soon — if ever. “We didn’t join the Big East to leave,” UConn athletic director David Benedict said back in May, 2020, a little over a month before UConn officially re-joined the league. “They didn’t bring us in to leave, and we didn’t join to leave.” Plus, if things were to follow a similar model as UConn’s departure from the American Athletic Conference, the school would have to pay an ACC entry fee. The entry fee to join the Big East was $3.5 million.

 
Joined
Nov 6, 2012
Messages
3,417
Reaction Score
9,306
UConn isn't going anywhere. The other teams have to step up. I was deeply disappointed in DePaul, as I'm sure Doug Bruno was. With UConn in the Big East, it should bring in players who want to beat the Huskies.
 

oldude

bamboo lover
Joined
Nov 15, 2016
Messages
17,235
Reaction Score
154,051
If the Big 12 loses TX & OK, they will most certainly want to add 2 teams, for the simple reason that the NCAA requires a conference to have a minimum of 12 teams in football, in order to hold a conference championship game, which generates millions in revenue for the Big 12.

So they need a couple D1 football schools who are willing to leave their current conference or are currently unaffiliated. Forget the fact that UConn to the Big 12 makes no sense geographically. WV in the Big 12 doesn’t make much sense either. UConn would jump at the chance to join the Big 12. Whether the Big 12 would have any interest in UConn is something of a stretch.
 
Joined
Aug 18, 2019
Messages
1,160
Reaction Score
3,467
Really someone explain why another league would want UCONN to join?
None of these leagues are concerned with women’s basketball. It’s all about football. Imagine Vic Schaefer though. He played second to Dawn in the SEC and Mulkey in the Big 12. If Texas joins the SEC he’ll have to deal with both of them. Rumor is it won’t happen until 2025 though. SC cut of the SEC money is in excess of $68 million. The rich are going to get even richer.
 
Joined
Nov 24, 2011
Messages
7,518
Reaction Score
24,562
Anything is possible. But financially, it would not be wise. If UConn leaves the Big East. Heck any team for that matter, these conferences are going to make it pretty costly for schools to leave.
 

UcMiami

How it is
Joined
Aug 26, 2011
Messages
14,184
Reaction Score
47,183
Without TX and OK the Big12 is not all that attractive as a media product and I don't see any really attractive schools they could add to change the equation. I don't see them being able to raid the Pac or B1G or ACC (or the SEC) so they are likely to become another middling conference whoever they recruit to join them.

As for Uconn ... they would jump if the B1G or ACC came calling - no way you could justify not accepting, whatever the buy-out was. Just not sure it is likely they would get a call.
Anything is possible. But financially, it would not be wise. If UConn leaves the Big East. Heck any team for that matter, these conferences are going to make it pretty costly for schools to leave.
The cost is a one time payment, while the revenue stream is ever year. Even a $100M price tag gets paid off quickly if you increase your media take by $20M per year.
 
Joined
Mar 8, 2016
Messages
3,826
Reaction Score
15,629
If the Big 12 loses TX & OK, they will most certainly want to add 2 teams, for the simple reason that the NCAA requires a conference to have a minimum of 12 teams in football, in order to hold a conference championship game, which generates millions in revenue for the Big 12.

So they need a couple D1 football schools who are willing to leave their current conference or are currently unaffiliated. Forget the fact that UConn to the Big 12 makes no sense geographically. WV in the Big 12 doesn’t make much sense either. UConn would jump at the chance to join the Big 12. Whether the Big 12 would have any interest in UConn is something of a stretch.
Agree with your assessment. With all due respect to UConn football, having lived at the Ok border the past 10 years, they view our team as comparable to a D2 school. Most Big 12 schools sell out every game but Huskie football would present a unique challenge. Not happening.
 
Joined
Aug 27, 2011
Messages
6,960
Reaction Score
27,456
To the Big East? Only way they can do that is if their football is willing to be an Independent like Uconn and not sure if they'd want to do that.

The way the P-5 is teetering on restructuring some independents might have a decent schedule. All those B12 teams have to make up missing conference games.

UConn's hope is for football conferences to merge into a league independent of the NCAA. With football removed UConn would be welcome in any basketball friendly major conference.
 
Joined
Sep 1, 2011
Messages
2,279
Reaction Score
5,990
P 5 will become the P4. This creates the same conversation that existed when the Pac was considering taking Oklahoma and Texas some years back. With four rather than five major football conferences they could form a Super Pac and create their own playoff system amongst themselves. This would totally eliminate the power and role of the NCAA. The four conferences could leave and create their own playoff systems and the NCAA could do nothing about it. This is especially true now tht the NCAA has caved and no longer has the power it once had.
 

Dream Jobbed 2.0

“Most definitely”
Joined
May 3, 2016
Messages
15,003
Reaction Score
56,612
Anything is possible. But financially, it would not be wise. If UConn leaves the Big East. Heck any team for that matter, these conferences are going to make it pretty costly for schools to leave.
Schools make 3-4 times more money in the ACC or Big10
 

HuskylnSC

North is a direction; South is a lifestyle
Joined
Mar 7, 2017
Messages
2,349
Reaction Score
11,925
I predict the end game is a 20-24 team league of top football powerhouses. They will leave the NCAA for football and sign their own tv deal making $100 million per team. At the end of the year they host a 4 team extra revenue playoff to determine the natty.
 

Bald Husky

four score
Joined
Jan 17, 2021
Messages
2,356
Reaction Score
13,877
It would be a great thing if UConn was invited to the ACC or BIG. Except it's not gonna happen. First, we don't really know what is going to happen with Texas and Oklahoma. If they do opt to move, the dominos will fall in the big 12 and in the other P5 conferences. The AAC could become stronger, or they can get weaker. Clemson has been threatening to move recently, and Georgia Tech could be right behind them. If UConn was still in the AAC then this could present an opportunity, but the move to the BE was celebrated by us and the conference. Trying to leave now would not help UConns Rep, and they would be looked upon as a bad partner. If Randy can bring back the football program we would have a chance next time someone wants to make a move. This year will be critical for the football team, especially since there are a number of P5 teams on the schedule, including Clemson. As far as teams joining the BE, Kansas has a poor football program and may want to look into an independent schedule. All in all, Uconn has to sit this one out and become an observer until they are also financially sound. They are not ready to move anywhere.
 
Joined
Apr 23, 2019
Messages
2,155
Reaction Score
10,875
I know this mostly revolves around football, but it does seem like the Big 12 minus two key players is in danger of not being considered a Power 5 conference. If they raid a couple of mediocre programs from other conferences they may just move to last on the Power 5 list, but I could see the possibility of further defections, particularly if the Texas/Oklahoma potential replacements are not impressive. Geographically the Big 12 is a little vulnerable, being kinda in the middle. It would not be unreasonable to add westernmost schools to the Pac12, northern to the BIG, and further eastern schools in the conference to the SEC or ACC.

A basketball school like Baylor could even consider joining the remaining Power 4 conferences, or even joining the Big East. If you take away one more basketball school from the Big 12 and switch them to the Big East at least from a basketball standpoint the conferences might be about even.
 
Joined
Sep 3, 2011
Messages
2,772
Reaction Score
9,098
I believe the end game will be that the Power 4 breakaway from the NCAA in all sports. They’ll have their own football championship, their own basketball tournament…….. The P4 are just competing are a different level. The money disparity will be just to great for those outside the P4 to overcome. All the schools outside the P4 will continue to operate under the NCAA umbrella and life will go on. In the long run this makes a lot of sense. I’m not sure what BC would do with their hockey team in this model. Most likely they would just move hockey over to the BiG10 conference.
 
Joined
May 13, 2015
Messages
320
Reaction Score
2,484
Oldude, problem is the Big12 only has 10 teams. Never replaced Texas A&M or Nebraska when they departed. They would become another AAC. If Texas and Oklahoma do leave, I could see Baylor wanting to go anywhere to increase it's exposure. The only conference that the Big12 could maybe entice members to leave appears to be the AAC. Unfortunately college sports are going to change and I don't believe it will be for the better.
 
Joined
Oct 17, 2018
Messages
859
Reaction Score
5,036
I would think if any university would be invited to the Big12 it would be the University of Houston. Geographically it fits, it’s not a complete dumpster fire when it comes to football and their men’s basketball program seems to be on the rise over the past few years. I could see them wanting to leave the AAC in favor of a Big12 contract.
 
Joined
Aug 4, 2018
Messages
1,360
Reaction Score
7,002
The ACC may not fare much better. The B1G is looking at UNC and UVA. The SEC is looking at Clemson and FSU. If realignment does affect the ACC, you have to think that WVU and maybe The Yooo would be looking for a soft place to land.

Football vs basketball. The ACC has become the old BE.
 

EricLA

Cronus
Joined
Aug 24, 2011
Messages
15,114
Reaction Score
82,696
It seems like there will be tons of movement if Texas and Oklahoma leave the B12. I think the NCAA is on borrowed time. I've read all kinds of scenarios - from the Pac-12/B10/B12 joining to make a superconference while the SEC merges with the ACC for the other conference, to everything in between.

Apparently the ACC was trying to poach Texas and OK as well - hoping to add ND as a permanent member. I think there will be a tremendous domino effect and hopefully when the musical chairs stop, UCONN is in a conference that is NOT the BE or AAC.

Sure our football team sucks, and we are independent which is a crappy situation (frankly i have no idea how they recruit anyone to the team), but I have no doubt that if we were in some kind of super conference, the University would put a lot of resources towards football, starting with expanding the Rent.

I could actually see 2 mega conferences of 32 teams each. I hope in that scenario UCONN would have a place at the big boys table. Or maybe 3 conferences of 24 teams each. Either way it will be a huge power grab led by the almighty football $$.

This is going to take years and years to work thru. UCONN sports will eventually cease to be relevant (or will become like a Gonzaga) if the entire country realigns and we still end up in the Big East. It would be a horrible situation for us. Not sustainable. IMHO.
 
Joined
Sep 19, 2018
Messages
7,548
Reaction Score
28,337
Why would any mega-conference want UConn? For its awesome football program? Academic prestige? For its basketball programs neither of which has won anything in the better part of a decade? And when Geno's contract is up in a few years and he retires our most prominent brand is gonna get double tapped. Or maybe it's the TV market which is mostly a pro-sports market? The mega-conferences are gonna be formed by those already in the P5.
 

Online statistics

Members online
437
Guests online
2,306
Total visitors
2,743

Forum statistics

Threads
159,591
Messages
4,196,685
Members
10,066
Latest member
bardira


.
Top Bottom