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this is both comedy and a farce....UCONN fans are supporting a fake TN fan's criticism of their own team while telling the real LV fan that they just don't understand. LOL it's actually funny to me. seriously....:cool:
 
LadyVols9 said:
this is both comedy and a farce....UCONN fans are supporting a fake TN fan's criticism of their own team while telling the real LV fan that they just don't understand. LOL it's actually funny to me. seriously....:cool:
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It's amusing to us as well - that you keep going on and on and on and on with your mistaken believe that it's impossible for a LV fan to have the feelings the rogue poster did. Talk about delusional...:confused:
 
LadyVols9 said:
this is both comedy and a farce....UCONN fans are supporting a fake TN fan's criticism of their own team while telling the real LV fan that they just don't understand. LOL it's actually funny to me. seriously....:cool:
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You have become tedious, boring, redundant, and superciliously repetitive. Why not address the points that were made by Random?
 
Ozzie Nelson said:
You have become tedious, boring, redundant, and superciliously repetitive. Why not address the points that were made by Random?
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not giving any credence to that position by even responding to it. i'd much rather chat with UCONN fans who can at least be themselves when talking about TN.
 
LadyVols9 said:
i guess perception is reality.
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What proof do we have that you are who you say you are?

His IP address is in Tennessee, unless you are calling our mods liars as well.

Where are you posting from? Probably South Bend. The Irish are a little cranky after the semi's last year.
 
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lol paranoia is setting in i see. so now i am a ND fan acting like a TN fan, who is criticizing a fake TN fan? this is getting good. i've said my peace on this issue. big games tonight. ready for some actuall BB.
 
LadyVols9 said:
not giving any credence to that position by even responding to it. i'd much rather chat with UCONN fans who can at least be themselves when talking about TN.
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What a cop out.

Let me get this straight.

You won't address his points because you think he is a fake LV fan. And you have no proof other than his point of view on the Lady Vols. And that point of view is contrary to most LV fans so he must be a fake.

Did I miss anything?

Other than your tin foil hat?
 
LadyVols9 said:
lol paranoia is setting in i see. so now i am a ND fan acting like a TN fan, who is criticizing a fake TN fan? this is getting good. i've said my peace on this issue. big games tonight. ready for some actuall BB.
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Parinoia?

I see satire is dead in Tennessee. Or South Bend.
 
LadyVols9 said:
this is both comedy and a farce....UCONN fans are supporting a fake TN fan's criticism of their own team while telling the real LV fan that they just don't understand. LOL it's actually funny to me. seriously....:cool:
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Hmmm. Well, I certainly was not going to dignify your posts with a response on your thread, so I appreciate the opportunity to do so here.

Admittedly, I thought that you were perhaps honest in your perception that a fan would not criticize his/her own team. That's not reality, but it could very well be the myopic false "reality" created elsewhere. I thought the genuine target of your ire was the "Rogue" and in a continuing demonstration of your ineptness at understanding human nature thought you should use the same medium as "Rogue" to lash out.

Your responses in "Rogue's" thread have changed my mind. You may or may not be still myopic, but I now suspect part of your intention is to just stir things up a bit on this board. In other words, you are just another average troll. Further reaction to you will serve no purpose.
 
LadyVols9 said:
lol paranoia is setting in i see. so now i am a ND fan acting like a TN fan, who is criticizing a fake TN fan? this is getting good. i've said my peace on this issue. big games tonight. ready for some actuall BB.
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You said your "peace"? no, there was nothing peaceful about the content of your posts, especially when you are trying to discredit someone who no longer posts on the Summitt, but remains a LV fan.

No, you said your piece....such as it is, and my guess is that it was received pretty much as you suspected it would be received. One wonders why you continue after having said what you came to say? Perhaps you are now down to a simple game of "last word".

How silly
 
LadyVols9 said:
not giving any credence to that position by even responding to it. i'd much rather chat with UCONN fans who can at least be themselves when talking about TN.
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But all UConn fans think the same way. So, if you find someone here that responds in the manner to which you approve, they're not real UConn fans. :confused:
 
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LadyVols9 said:
lol paranoia is setting in i see. so now i am a ND fan acting like a TN fan, who is criticizing a fake TN fan? this is getting good. i've said my peace on this issue. big games tonight. ready for some actuall BB.
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lol....given the combatants, this gif is particularly appropriate

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okay.. I'll confess. I am really a LV fan, but I lost my card carrying privileges when I lost a game of "Maria Says" over on the Summitt. Maria didn't say "do a reality check."
 
Random,
I too used to read and post on The Summitt.That was until I made the GHASTLY decision to actually praise Geno for what he had done and was doing.That pretty much amounts to heresy on that "discussion" board.I was excoriated and pretty much told to move to Connecticut.The Summitt was pretty much getting to be a waste of time since it was mainly a cheerleading site made up of people who cannot grasp reality.People like me who threw away their orange glasses years ago are no longer welcome.
I'm still a huge Lady Vols fan,but I appreciate the efforts and sacrifices that all the young ladies of WCBB make.It's just a sad reality to me that UT is no longer the "killer of giants".We struggle against top teams,and are now the underdog against ANY Top 5 team we face.Maybe Holly can turn things around,but I don't see much more than what we've been doing for the last upteen years.We needed a new vision,but all we did was change the frames of our glasses.






RandomFan85 said:
So yes, I am a LV fan. So much that I was a paying member of the Summitt until just recently. But, that board is not worth the cost for a number of reasons I care not to share. I realize that I can never reveal my true identity after today because I do live in Tennessee where speaking negatively of the LV's is a crime punishable by hanging without a trial by jury. But I do have some confessions to make:

1. On UCONN: As much as it sucks for us LV fans, I believe UCONN is putting a very special team on the floor this year. Ask Baylor and BG, anything can happen, but I would be absolutely shocked to see anyone but UCONN cutting down the nets in our back yard. I just hope that if I keep putting this in writing and keep telling myself this now, it will hurt less in April, right? Oh and BTW, I am pretty sure that I am the only person in the state of Tennessee that isn't convinced UCONN is going to waste away and die in the AAC. Even if the AAC is a terrible conference.

2. On Tennessee: Where to start? Quite frankly I think that the best thing for us would have been a breath of fresh air so to speak after Pat's retirement. Yes, I realize that Holly led the team to the E8 and a regular season championship. I'm not calling for her to be fired by any means. Holly was an outstanding and loyal assistant coach and yes she should have been rewarded for being such. However, it would be nice to see a coach whose vocabulary includes more than two words: Defense and Rebounding. A leader with a different perspective could have done us wonders.

3. On Recruiting: M. Russell is a good pickup for us, but as a #1 recruit, she is not the game changer that #1's like Moore, EDD, Parker, and Stewie are. She and Graves are a strong front court, but the only way they will ever get the ball is by rebounding Simmons and Massengale's bricks. It doesn't appear that our back court players are every going to learn how to get them the ball. I hope I am wrong, but I think it's the same song, different verse when it comes to our back court this year.
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lcjeff said:
Random,
I too used to read and post on The Summitt.That was until I made the GHASTLY decision to actually praise Geno for what he had done and was doing.That pretty much amounts to heresy on that "discussion" board.I was excoriated and pretty much told to move to Connecticut.The Summitt was pretty much getting to be a waste of time since it was mainly a cheerleading site made up of people who cannot grasp reality.People like me who threw away their orange glasses years ago are no longer welcome.
I'm still a huge Lady Vols fan,but I appreciate the efforts and sacrifices that all the young ladies of WCBB make.It's just a sad reality to me that UT is no longer the "killer of giants".We struggle against top teams,and are now the underdog against ANY Top 5 team we face.Maybe Holly can turn things around,but I don't see much more than what we've been doing for the last upteen years.We needed a new vision,but all we did was change the frames of our glasses.
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Yeah, you didn't even change accents or hair styles.
 
lcjeff said:
Random,
I too used to read and post on The Summitt.That was until I made the GHASTLY decision to actually praise Geno for what he had done and was doing.That pretty much amounts to heresy on that "discussion" board.I was excoriated and pretty much told to move to Connecticut.The Summitt was pretty much getting to be a waste of time since it was mainly a cheerleading site made up of people who cannot grasp reality.People like me who threw away their orange glasses years ago are no longer welcome.
I'm still a huge Lady Vols fan,but I appreciate the efforts and sacrifices that all the young ladies of WCBB make.It's just a sad reality to me that UT is no longer the "killer of giants".We struggle against top teams,and are now the underdog against ANY Top 5 team we face.Maybe Holly can turn things around,but I don't see much more than what we've been doing for the last upteen years.We needed a new vision,but all we did was change the frames of our glasses.
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Oh wow. Its nice to see a fellow LV fan who has shunned the Summitt and lived to tell about it, lol.
 
RandomFan85 said:
Oh wow. Its nice to see a fellow LV fan who has shunned the Summitt and lived to tell about it, lol.
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More proof that not all LV fans are like those posters on the Summitt.

Welcome to the board, RandomFan85!
Welcome back, Jeff. I've missed reading your posts but am glad to see you're still around.
 
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Husky7882 said:
More proof that not all LV fans are like those posters on the Summitt.

Welcome to the board, RandomFan85!
Welcome back, Jeff. I've missed reading your posts but am glad to see you're still around.
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Hardly. We ALL know now that the TWO of them are not real Tennessee fans. It's impossible!!
 
Ozzie Nelson said:
You have become tedious, boring, redundant, and superciliously repetitive. Why not address the points that were made by Random?
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In true LV fashion, they have no logical answers for some legit concerns with their program, so they just change the focus to something else. #ThisIsTennessee
 
Husky7882 said:
More proof that not all LV fans are like those posters on the Summitt.

Welcome to the board, RandomFan85!
Welcome back, Jeff. I've missed reading your posts but am glad to see you're still around.
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Thanks!I don't post a lot anymore but I still keep up w/WCBB.I'm glad that Maria's Minions have their own private playground.She basically doesn't want anyone there who dares challenge her opinions,or anything else for that matter,whether it be of a political or sports-related matter.I'll gladly follow board guidelines,but I'm not going to play cheerleader just to be popular.
What UT did was give us a younger version of the same thing.Pat is and will always be a legend.BUT,her biggest fault is NOT ADAPTING TO CHANGING TIMES.She tried one by studying the Villanova system.God bless her,she almost put me to sleep several times while at the games.I was a season tix holder,and it was like watching the DMV at work.Little movement,and no one seemed to know what to do next.
Holly is basically doing what Pat did.You CANNOT rely just on rebounding and defense.That worked pre-2000.You have to be able to develop a system based on what you have,and be able to use talent efficiently.Sloppiness is often a result of a lack of discipline and direction.We often look confused,and how many times do we lose possession due to lack of concentration?I promise you this......if DeShields had gone to UConn,Geno would have already had a "come to Jesus" meeting w/her about her lack of control.
I was one of the few who wanted Kim Mulkey or Jeff Walz as the new head coach.Newer vision is exactly what UT needed,but they wanted to keep it "in the family".But until we start beating the giants again,we'll just have to sit back and watch DVR's of what we once were.
 
lcjeff, you are correct DeShields would have earned a lot of pine time if she tried to play at CT the way she did last night.
 
Jeff - I replied to rogue and will to you ... I don't think TN had a viable choice to go away from Holly last year - just too complicated with emotions and honoring Pat by 'continuing her legacy'. In a few years things will be a little less fraught with emotions.
As you say - I think pre 2000 you could win it all purely with talent and discipline and TN had both, but there is more talent available now and it is more widely distributed, and their are a lot more good coaches with real offensive systems and more diverse defensive schemes. There are a number of old school coaches still in the game that haven't really evolved beyond that one trick approach. They have lots of wins to their name but limited success in the post 2000 world of WCBB.
 
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RandomFan85 said:
So yes, I am a LV fan. So much that I was a paying member of the Summitt until just recently. But, that board is not worth the cost for a number of reasons I care not to share. I realize that I can never reveal my true identity after today because I do live in Tennessee where speaking negatively of the LV's is a crime punishable by hanging without a trial by jury. But I do have some confessions to make:

1. On UCONN: As much as it sucks for us LV fans, I believe UCONN is putting a very special team on the floor this year. Ask Baylor and BG, anything can happen, but I would be absolutely shocked to see anyone but UCONN cutting down the nets in our back yard. I just hope that if I keep putting this in writing and keep telling myself this now, it will hurt less in April, right? Oh and BTW, I am pretty sure that I am the only person in the state of Tennessee that isn't convinced UCONN is going to waste away and die in the AAC. Even if the AAC is a terrible conference.

2. On Tennessee: Where to start? Quite frankly I think that the best thing for us would have been a breath of fresh air so to speak after Pat's retirement. Yes, I realize that Holly led the team to the E8 and a regular season championship. I'm not calling for her to be fired by any means. Holly was an outstanding and loyal assistant coach and yes she should have been rewarded for being such. However, it would be nice to see a coach whose vocabulary includes more than two words: Defense and Rebounding. A leader with a different perspective could have done us wonders.

3. On Recruiting: M. Russell is a good pickup for us, but as a #1 recruit, she is not the game changer that #1's like Moore, EDD, Parker, and Stewie are. She and Graves are a strong front court, but the only way they will ever get the ball is by rebounding Simmons and Massengale's bricks. It doesn't appear that our back court players are every going to learn how to get them the ball. I hope I am wrong, but I think it's the same song, different verse when it comes to our back court this year.
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I wanted to post and address your concerns because I think you are a true Lady Vol fan, and like myself is/was also unhappy with the way things are being run at "The Summitt". The thing that really pissed me off was the owner, Josh Woodward, posting a sticky thread threatening legal action if anybody put their "premium" content on other boards. This is silly because most of what they call "premium" content will come out regardless of whether it's posted on "The Summitt" or not. First off, I constantly check the Boneyard, and Volnation and I NEVER see any content that Maria posts put on these sights, so to post that seemed to be a little pretentious and prissy. Kind of like Woodward trying to show his big boy pants and trying to show people who the boss is, MC is like this as well and it is VERY offputting. I was unimpressed and I'm sure they have lost many subscribers to their draconian posting policies. Bottom line is, the site isn't nowhere near worth 10 dollars a month, maybe 5, but that's still stretching it. Not all Summitt posters are bad and the majority are cool and are diehard Lady Vol fans, but there is a small minority there who make Lady Vol fans look bad, but of course they are too arrogant to know it.

I did want to take the opportunity and thank HuskyNan for being very welcoming to me and other Lady Vol fans. Volnation and Boneyard are two forums where you can be free to post what you like and not face some sort of "public" shaming. Now, Boneyarders can be tough, especially DoggyDaddy and a few others, but that's to be understood. I am a Lady Vol fan posting on a rivals boards, so I don't expect my opinions to be met with rosy optimism lol, and to all the Boneyarders who have been nice to me, thanks, I appreciate it:).

Now, with this said, I don't consider myself a "rouge Lady Vol fan", rather a very unhappy former subscriber of the Summitt. I fully support Holly and I think she is the right coach to lead this team back to elite status. Were there other coaches out there who could have come in and been very successful at UT? Yes, of course. My personal choice was Rick Insell out of MTSU. Anyway, Holly has done a great job so far with great recruiting and against expectations, winning the SEC last season. It's been proven that following a legend is almost an impossible task, but Holly so far is doing a job of it.

As far as your 3rd point, Ill have to disagree with you a bit there. Massengale last night showed us why she plays Team USA basketball, was recruited heavily by UCONN and was the best PG in her class. I hope she can continue that kind of domination because she played like an AA last night. Russell needs more time to adjust to the college game and get more weight on strength on her. Once she does that, watch out, and no I'm not saying she will be the type of game changer that Moore, Holdsclaw, Parker, EDD, Taurasi and Griner were, but those players don't come along very often, so let's give Russell a break and let her adjust. It's just way to early to write her off..
 
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LadyVols9 said:
this is both comedy and a farce....UCONN fans are supporting a fake TN fan's criticism of their own team while telling the real LV fan that they just don't understand. LOL it's actually funny to me. seriously....:cool:
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LV fans, you're all welcome here as long as you remain civil. I would warn just you that the UConn fans' tolerance for LV-related topics might wane if there are too many threads on Tennessee but for now you guys are fine. Even the cranky fans.

As for the LVs and the coaching situation - I found it rather alarming that a team that needed to improve its offensive efficiency brought in......(wait for it).......a former Rutgers coach. Villanova's offense looks like a fast break compared to the Scarlet Knights'. (sorry, RU friends) IMO, what Tennessee needed to do was pry open the checkbook and pay Nikki Caldwell whatever she wanted to go to Knoxville. But, water under the bridge now. Good luck to you guys going forward.
 
HuskyNan said:
LV fans, you're all welcome here as long as you remain civil. I would warn just you that the UConn fans' tolerance for LV-related topics might wane if there are too many threads on Tennessee but for now you guys are fine. Even the cranky fans.

As for the LVs and the coaching situation - I found it rather alarming that a team that needed to improve its offensive efficiency brought in......(wait for it).......a former Rutgers coach. Villanova's offense looks like a fast break compared to the Scarlet Knights'. (sorry, RU friends) IMO, what Tennessee needed to do was pry open the checkbook and pay Nikki Caldwell whatever she wanted to go to Knoxville. But, water under the bridge now. Good luck to you guys going forward.
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HuskyNan, I don't think their intention was to bring in Law to improve offense efficiency, rather she was brought in because she is a great recruiter. I don't think Tennessee's style is anything like Rutgers, rather it's a more of a wide open run and gun type of offense. Granted, it's been a little sloppy to watch this year, but I'm sure Holly will address it..
 
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