Compare These NBA Guards

[jleves]

Who would you rather have?

Who are they? (Gurleyman is not allowed to answer this for 24 hours)

*Edit - more fun if you don't read the comments before you respond.

 

[intlzncster]

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Who would you rather have?

Who are they? (Gurleyman is not allowed to answer this for 24 hours)

What about TO/G? That's important in this comparison.

 

[BearJWS]

Brandon Jennings & Kemba... I'd still rather have Kemba. Detroit blew it taking Brandon Knight...

 

[huskiesNhoos]

kemba's assist numbers would be so much higher if he had someone to pass to

 

[jleves]

What about TO/G? That's important in this comparison.

Wasn't in the stats from the comparison I used, but here you go:
Player 1: 3.1 TO/G
Player 2: 2.5 TO/G

I added it to the chart for easier comparison

 

[Tenspro2002]

Without reading anyone else's comments -- I think I'd rather have Player 2, but just barely. He does a little of everything and shoots it at a higher percentage. Even though Player 1 has a lot of assists, I feel like they come by virtue of a higher usage.

My guess is that Player 2 is Kemba? Player 1 is, I don't know, John Wall?

I don't follow the NBA all that closely, so I'm probably going to look like an idiot.

 

[Dynasty]

I would take player 1 if I didn't know it was Brandon Jennings. Since Jennings is a low efficient chucker, give me Kemba. Just going off raw numbers here..

 

[jleves]

Brandon Jennings & Kemba... I'd still rather have Kemba. Detroit blew it taking Brandon Knight...

I'm not sure that stats say either is better than the other and they are in total vacuum of who plays around them and it's an incredibly small sample. I was just sitting here thinking about recruits we missed and who we had to settle for and thought about Jennings. I don't follow the NBA at all, so I had to see if Jennings was even playing and NBA.COM had a cool compare button, so once I found Jennings, the next step was obvious and I had no idea what the results would be.

Do you value assists more than a little better scoring, fewer TOs, better shooting and an extra rebound from your guard? I think it's really nearly a wash. I just thought it would be interesting to look at where these two particular UConn recruits were at in their NBA careers.

I was actually a little shocked to see our fallback that gave us so many memories and a National Championship is statistically at least as good as the kid who snubbed us and Arizona and never played an NCAA and who has no college memories or fan support.

Just a little reminder that sometimes it's good to miss on your primary target in the recruiting battle. Just something I thought would be fun to post.

 

[BoatShow]

I knew player 2 was Kemba solely because I'm obsessed with his stats.

 

[TheChamps990411]

Id take player one. 18/8 is what you want from your pg. Sure he has more to but not by much. Kemba is a little better offensively but not by any huge difference. If you have either guy i think your happy.

 

[BearJWS]

I'm not sure that stats say either is better than the other and they are in total vacuum of who plays around them and it's an incredibly small sample. I was just sitting here thinking about recruits we missed and who we had to settle for and thought about Jennings. I don't follow the NBA at all, so I had to see if Jennings was even playing and NBA.COM had a cool compare button, so once I found Jennings, the next step was obvious and I had no idea what the results would be.

Do you value assists more than a little better scoring, fewer TOs, better shooting and an extra rebound from your guard? I think it's really nearly a wash. I just thought it would be interesting to look at where these two particular UConn recruits were at in their NBA careers.

I was actually a little shocked to see our fallback that gave us so many memories and a National Championship is statistically at least as good as the kid who snubbed us and Arizona and never played an NCAA and who has no college memories or fan support.

Just a little reminder that sometimes it's good to miss on your primary target in the recruiting battle. Just something I thought would be fun to post.

I'll take a winner with positive attitude & a great teammate any day. Kemba is leader. I've not heard that about Jennings. Walker's teams have gotten better each year. Charlotte possibly has the worst talent in the league & Walker has them challenging for a playoff spot this year. Put Kemba on the Pistons & I think they are definitely a playoff team with him passing to Drummond, Monroe & Smith. That's just my take.

I'm very happy Kemba came to UConn instead of Jennings!

 

[champs99and04]

Kemba is a better player, and it's not all that close in my opinion. Eight assists a game is nice, but when you're shooting 37% from the floor you're probably doing more harm than good on offense, especially on a roster that is starved for floor spacing. It would be easy to look at the data and conclude that Kemba is a slightly better shooter, but when you're averaging 2.3 points more per game and doing it at a much more efficient rate, there is a noticeable gap in scoring ability there.

Playing with Josh Smith, Greg Monroe, and Andre Drummond probably aids Jennings' assist totals quite a bit. When he was with the Bucks last season, he averaged 6.5 assists per game. Kemba's assists, meanwhile, are down to 5.0 compared to 5.7 last year - that probably has a lot to due with Al Jefferson, a notoriously deliberate post player, occupying a lot of possessions. Drummond, on the other hand, is a far more point guard friendly player. You can't run plays for him, so he can't deprive you of assists with long-developing post moves, but his super-human leaping ability is such that you can probably rack up a couple assists per game just by throwing it in the vicinity of the basket.

All that said, Jennings is definitely a better passer than Kemba. But the discrepancy in passing ability is not nearly as large as the gap in scoring prowess, and it doesn't hurt that Kemba is considered to be a better defender (104 defensive rating for Kemba, 110 for Jennings).

 

[joober jones]

Tor Watts and Pat Lenehan in 2 years.

 

[msgordon]

kemba is better than jennings...but nobody around the NBA is high on jennings anymore...his assists are up playing with three bigs who can finish this year, but hes still an inefficient chucker

 

[msgordon]

Id take player one. 18/8 is what you want from your pg. Sure he has more to but not by much. Kemba is a little better offensively but not by any huge difference. If you have either guy i think your happy.

its 16/8, but thats not the point(pun intended?). theres 40 guards in the league who could get 16/8 if they played 36 mpg on the pistons, doesnt mean they are necessarily helping the team. its all about context

 

[UConn990411]

Id take player one. 18/8 is what you want from your pg. Sure he has more to but not by much. Kemba is a little better offensively but not by any huge difference. If you have either guy i think your happy.

You don't want your point guard shooting 37% from the floor.

Kemba still has holes in his game, but Jennings has craters. While he's still a good player, Detroit could not have picked a worse guy to pair up with Monroe, Drummond and Josh Smith.

 

[UConNick]

Brandon Knight is a guess, but I'm pretty sure player 2 is Kemba. Knight may be my final guess, but it could be Brandon Jennings too.

Edit: that was without reading the thread. Knight was the first one in my mind.

 

[tzznandrew]

You don't want your point guard shooting 37% from the floor.

Kemba still has holes in his game, but Jennings has craters. While he's still a good player, Detroit could not have picked a worse guy to pair up with Monroe, Drummond and Josh Smith.

Right. Does Kemba shoot as poorly on the Pistons with guys down low like that? I doubt it. He's already shooting a higher percentage on a less talented team.

He'd average probably the same as Jennings does now (points and assists), but with a higher efficiency.

 

[TheChamps990411]

its 16/8, but thats not the point(pun intended?). theres 40 guards in the league who could get 16/8 if they played 36 mpg on the pistons, doesnt mean they are necessarily helping the team. its all about context

I thought we were looking at numbers not context?

 

[TheChamps990411]

You don't want your point guard shooting 37% from the floor.

Kemba still has holes in his game, but Jennings has craters. While he's still a good player, Detroit could not have picked a worse guy to pair up with Monroe, Drummond and Josh Smith.

Your obviously not looking at the numbers and have a bias. Im not judging the players im judging the numbers. you dont want 37% from your pg but you also dont want 5 assists either.