Committee top 16 preliminary bracket reveal

[auror]

Nova a 3 and Providence a 4. No Houston. Pretty darn similar to Bracket Matrix.

 

[TXHuskyFan]

It is meaningless. Does anyone really think they’ll put duke out west? Hahaha. Total joke

 

[BleedHuskyBlu]

Boo was hoping they had Providence as a 3.

 

[aburks41]

Providence as a 4 seed is low, and Texas as a 4 is a total joke. Even Beard would tell you that team has no business being a 4 seed

 

[mauconnfan]

Nova a 3 and PC a 4 tells of little respect for BigEast.

 

[auror]

Nova a 3 and PC a 4 tells of little respect for BigEast.

Nova can get up to the 2 line pretty easily. They squandered a lot of chances for good wins earlier in the year, so they're still digging out of that a bit.

Providence just has the weirdest statistical profile in recent memory. It's very likely they end up a 4 almost no matter what. It's the compromise seed.

 

[Ewekon]

We beat Nova....get in for time being? I think just miss. Win out b4 BET and team earns a 4....for the time being. Not impossible. Plus, I'm heading to DC to keep it all on track.

 

[ecasadoSBU]

Providence as a 4 seed is low, and Texas as a 4 is a total joke. Even Beard would tell you that team has no business being a 4 seed

Texas down 10 late at home against TTU with a pro-TTU crowd. What a mess. How do you allow TTU fans to take over your home like that?

 

[auror]

Texas down 10 late at home against TTU with a pro-TTU crowd. What a mess. How do you allow TTU fans to take over your home like that?

They stopped selling tickets to the public (aka the Tech fans) a few days ago and gave the remaining tickets away for free to any students that wanted to go (beyond the usual student ticket #s). Was too late apparently lol.

 

[aburks41]

They stopped selling tickets to the public (aka the Tech fans) a few days ago and gave the remaining tickets away for free to any students that wanted to go (beyond the usual student ticket #s). Was too late apparently lol.

So embarrassing for Texas hahah. Could you imagine the meltdown in the UConn world if we let a big east team take over Gampel the way Tech fans took over in Austin?

 

[auror]

So embarrassing for Texas hahah. Could you imagine the meltdown in the UConn world if we let a big east team take over Gampel the way Tech fans took over in Austin?

Yeah Texas is building a new on campus arena similar to Gampel that will open next year, currently they play at a place XL Center sized. Really impressive by Tech fans, though. That's a 6 hour drive. That's like Georgetown fans taking over XL Center.

 

[aburks41]

Yeah Texas is building a new on campus arena similar to Gampel that will open next year, currently they play at a place XL Center sized. Really impressive by Tech fans, though. That's a 6 hour drive. That's like Georgetown fans taking over XL Center.

They really, really hate chris beard lol

 

[Tenspro2002]

Providence as a 4 shows that the Committee didn't buy it and was looking for one slip-up (Nova) to confirm their suspicions.

Makes you wonder about their respect for the conference and whether we might be closer to a 7 than a 5.

 

[HeGotGame]

Providence as a 4 shows that the Committee didn't buy it and was looking for one slip-up (Nova) to confirm their suspicions.

Makes you wonder about their respect for the conference and whether we might be closer to a 7 than a 5.

Their NET is 29 and their KenPom is 45 and Sargin is 31, all metrics they use, a 4 seed is not a surprise .

 

[AntG168]

Providence as a 4 shows that the Committee didn't buy it and was looking for one slip-up (Nova) to confirm their suspicions.

Makes you wonder about their respect for the conference and whether we might be closer to a 7 than a 5.

Our metrics are better than PC’s. I think we’ll be pleasantly surprised with our seeding

 

[Tenspro2002]

Their NET is 29 and their KenPom is 45 and Sargin is 31, all metrics they use, a 4 seed is not a surprise .

Their per-possession numbers are pedestrian, but the W-L record is elite.

I suppose if the implication is they're leaning heavily on the Kenpom-type numbers, that may be a boon for us.

Or it could mean that they don't think highly of the BE.

 

[businesslawyer]

So embarrassing for Texas hahah. Could you imagine the meltdown in the UConn world if we let a big east team take over Gampel the way Tech fans took over in Austin?

We're used to being the Texas Tech fans. I wasn't at MSG last weekend, but it sounded like the building was roughly half and half.

 

[HeGotGame]

Their per-possession numbers are pedestrian, but the W-L record is elite.

I suppose if the implication is they're leaning heavily on the Kenpom-type numbers, that may be a boon for us.

Or it could mean that they don't think highly of the BE.

They had Nova one spot from a 2 seed. It is not a BE issue

 

[tzznandrew]

Makes you wonder about their respect for the conference and whether we might be closer to a 7 than a 5.

The Top 41 teams all made it last year, and then a bunch of teams between 42 and 72.

Current NET (not including today's results)

5 Villanova
18 UConn
24 Xavier
29 Providence
32 Marquette
34 Seton Hall

66 Creighton
68 St. John's

Numbers can change, but I think even if they tighten things up, you're looking at 6 teams, mostly comfortably, with 2 teams that have a chance, and closer to 7 than 5.

Seeding, on the other hand...

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Providence has 3 fewer losses than Texas Tech and beat them head to head. Why would Texas Tech have a better seeding than PC?

 

[tzznandrew]

Providence has 3 fewer losses than Texas Tech and beat them head to head. Why would Texas Tech have a better seeding than PC?

It's the advanced metrics.

NET
10 Tech
29 PC

KenPom
8 Tech
44 PC

Sagarin
13 Tech
31 PC

The difference between PC's record and metrics are among the craziest I've seen, especially in a conference that the metrics are treating pretty well.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

RPI
Providence 10
Texas Tech 14

Black box analyses of basketball teams are stupid. The simple RPI is more accurate.

 

[HeGotGame]

Providence has 3 fewer losses than Texas Tech and beat them head to head. Why would Texas Tech have a better seeding than PC?

Citing the number of losses is meaningless. Kansas has more losses than PC and they are a 1 seed.

TT has 6 wins over top 15 teams in Kenpom, PC has 1. TT’s resume is simply better than PCs.

 

[ecasadoSBU]

We're used to being the Texas Tech fans. I wasn't at MSG last weekend, but it sounded like the building was roughly half and half.

MSG had the entire upper deck empty. but no... I was there and it wasn't 50/50. it was like 70SJU/30UConn which is still impressive in my opinion. But Johnies had terrible attendance at MSG this year.

But what happened today at Austin was embarrassing. It looked like atleast 40% of that arena was TTU fans

 

[Hi-Low]

Citing the number of losses is meaningless. Kansas has more losses than PC and they are a 1 seed.

TT has 6 wins over top 15 teams in Kenpom, PC has 1. TT’s resume is simply better than PCs.

The Kansas non-conf schedule was perfect in terms of NET....they only have 2 Q4 games. They didn't schedule many great teams in non-conf but didn't schedule any 300+ cupcakes either. A little luck invlolved as well but they have a 1 seed resume