That's art though. Rule of thumb in sports is to always follow the money. The money in collegiate sports isn't in mid majors. As cool as it is for Morehead State to make a run in March, no one is tuning in to see them for the majority of the year. They're not bringing eyeballs to the TV across the masses.
He wouldn't be remembered at all if he was still toiling at Loyola. For every Jimmer there are 20 Antoine Davis's.
It's not up to you to say who is and isn't "doing just fine," especially with the money on the table these days at big programs.
There is a righteousness by using selective facts going on.
I'm curious why Rivals merged with On3 recently then. They certainly seem to put a lot of resources into basketball recruiting. About a year ago they started covering women's basketball recruiting pretty heavily. There would seem to be less interest in that than the men's.
I never really understood that mindset. I'd rather a guy go to a level where he belongs and have UConn caliber players on our roster than watch guys flounder for 3 years and hope they figure it out for a good senior year
Valid point. Luckily we haven't had to deal with large scale ditches yet.
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He didn’t give me a ton of insight and I didn’t ask him much because it seemed like a sensitive topic that would’ve affected his job as far as the merger goes.
Think the question is how successful actually are these mid majors who transfer up.
I'm on your side with the majority of this. But to play devils advocate to myself as well, Im not sure that Cam or Newt get the kind of NBA opportunity had they stayed at Rutgers or ECU respectively. If you move up, aren't the chances better that you will play for a more accomplished teacher/staff?
Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it works for both programs and athletes. Jalen Williams was before the portal kicked into high gear - believe me, he would have been in it.
Cam and Newton were both end of the draft selections. The effect we had was very minimal if the best outcome was the last 5 picks of the draft. It’s a cool story but they aren’t the examples we’d want to use here probably.
But what would have been the benefit outside of short term stuff? He went lottery and he’s thriving at the next level. Who knows what playing for a new coach and learning a new system halfway through his college career could’ve affected him.
Good points. Especially about continuity.
What is your argument, this is going in circles? His benefits at a point before he knew what his NBA career would look like would be:
NIL and ability to win a championship sure. He clearly didn’t need the visibility or the better competition to become a lottery pick.
Brother, why is any talented mid major doing it today? Every.single.one. They should follow your logic? C'mon dude, at some point you just like hearing yourself.
This is my theory for the ny giants. Trade your picks and sign veterans and 2nd contract players.
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The two points we agreed on. I’m not sure why you’re disregarding the lack of success after college these players have been having.
Not recognizing their lack of success, as NBA talent has a way of rising to the top. He could have gotten drafted higher perhaps, but all moot. They were all pre-portal, so no point in arguing the "what ifs". It was a different time/system. In today's world, same players would have 99% went into the portal for many reasons.
We don’t have to play a what if game.
lol why would you openly admit that “you might have to cheat” as an ADThe NCAA is such a mess. You have an AD of a P4 program suggesting they should cheat because if they don't they won't be able to compete because everyone else is going to cheat. How did they get here?
"So you have to decide, as an athletic director, are you gonna get out in this lane that you know you're not supposed to be in and operate without the highest level of integrity -- or do you wanna stay in these two lanes?" Yurachek said. "And that's where the rub is coming right now in college athletics. And until we get our enforcement agency up and running, you're gonna continue to have schools operating in that third lane. And that's a bad place to be, in my opinion. It's bad for college athletics. And I don't wanna operate there. But, I think, to be competitive, we may have to figure out what that third lane looks like for the University of Arkansas."
Arkansas AD Hunter Yurachek frustrated with state of recruiting, suggests breaking rules might be needed
Confusion over NIL rules and the House Settlement could force schools to travel in a lane they don't want to be in, Yurachek said
The vast majority of lottery picks will be one and done freshmen. Cedric Howard was lottery, Clayton went 18th. Plenty of first rounders are transfers up (Wolf). If we dice it subjectively we can support your claim.
Missed Cedric Howard. For some reason I might have thought that was Juwan’s son.
