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ctchamps said:
Both are good defenders. I don't believe we have enough data to know exactly how good.

Ross will be better at guarding quicker players. Stewart will be better at guarding stronger players.

Dybansta might be a difficult challenge for both.
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He's a tough guy to guard, but we can also throw Koroma at him for nothing else but to use up 5 fouls and beat him up a little bit
 
ctchamps said:
I have a similar sentiment. Several of us have been defending Ross on this site because multiple (perhaps the majority) of fans have outright dismissed him. We observed a lot of potential and in your case you had analytics to support it.

Now that Ross has begun to demonstrate those things Hurley claimed he did in practice some individuals have started to put him above Stewart in the pecking order. This is just as silly as dismissing him.

We have no idea how the minutes will be allocated nor when players will be put into the game outside of Demary, Ball, Karaban and Reed starting. Mullins should be on this list but we don't know when he will return and how long it will take him to be as proficient as those four or the developing Ross/Stewart. Our hope is it's as quickly as possible.

A better Stewart and Ross is what is the most important thing. The better they get the better the team will be. Once this team fully heals and completely integrates they will be dangerous.

I'm not ready to limit how much Ross might develop. Most of us dismissed Hurley's comments that Ross is an NBA player after he made that claim and Ross didn't show much in games. These are the first games he's earned and had any run. There certainly isn't enough to back the NBA claim but there are hints.
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I really haven't seen people dismissing Ross other than maybe Navery. People have said they want to see him play well in games, especially games against big time opponents (we haven't seen that in his career) because his athleticism on the wing is something this team could really benefit from...

We have "you know who" always saying he should start and that he's great defensively when the reality is he wasn't good defensively last season and Braylon was obviously our starter and will be our starter when he's healthy again. Of course there's going to be some pushback on that...

I personally think what Ross can bring if he plays well is more important than what Stewart can bring if he plays well for a couple of reasons. Ross is more athletic than Stewart and a plug and play wing off the bench who hopefully can shut down really tough perimeter assignments is an important thing for this team to have along with him being active and using his athleticism all over the court. Silas, Malachi, and Braylon are going to be really good defensively but they're not a legit 6'7 205 lbs...

Stewart has AK in front of him at what I think is Stewart's best position and Hurley rarely takes AK off the court. My hope is AK plays 29 minutes per game this season to always keep him fresh and Jaylin plays well enough in those replacement sf minutes where there isn't a huge drop off (Jaylin will get minutes at the three too.)

Both Jayden and Jaylin have to show consistency. The opportunity is there with Braylon out just like it was there last season with Liam out.
 
HW611 said:
Are you saying this because we need depth in case there's foul trouble or do you think he's the best option?
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No, I was just joking and the comment was about how Furphy did a really good job on Dybantsa when the Aussies played the Americans.
 
superjohn said:
I really haven't seen people dismissing Ross other than maybe Navery. People have said they want to see him play well in games, especially games against big time opponents (we haven't seen that in his career) because his athleticism on the wing is something this team could really benefit from...

We have "you know who" always saying he should start and that he's great defensively when the reality is he wasn't good defensively last season and Braylon was obviously our starter and will be our starter when he's healthy again. Of course there's going to be some pushback on that...

I personally think what Ross can bring if he plays well is more important than what Stewart can bring if he plays well for a couple of reasons. Ross is more athletic than Stewart and a plug and play wing off the bench who hopefully can shut down really tough perimeter assignments is an important thing for this team to have along with him being active and using his athleticism all over the court. Silas, Malachi, and Braylon are going to be really good defensively but they're not a legit 6'7 205 lbs...

Stewart has AK in front of him at what I think is Stewart's best position and Hurley rarely takes AK off the court. My hope is AK plays 29 minutes per game this season to always keep him fresh and Jaylin plays well enough in those replacement sf minutes where there isn't a huge drop off (Jaylin will get minutes at the three too.)

Both Jayden and Jaylin have to show consistency. The opportunity is there with Braylon out just like it was there last season with Liam out.
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And even I love Jayden Ross. People confuse me thinking he's the 9th man in an 8 man rotation with hating the kid. I also don't hate our Koroma or Millender or the Euro guys despite not viewing them as rotation guys
 
superjohn said:
We have "you know who" always saying he should start and that he's great defensively when the reality is he wasn't good defensively last season and Braylon was obviously our starter and will be our starter when he's healthy again. Of course there's going to be some pushback on that...
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As a Harry Potter fan, turning into the boards Voldermort is a pleasant surprise.
Harry Potter GIF
 
superjohn said:
I really haven't seen people dismissing Ross other than maybe Navery. People have said they want to see him play well in games, especially games against big time opponents (we haven't seen that in his career) because his athleticism on the wing is something this team could really benefit from...

We have "you know who" always saying he should start and that he's great defensively when the reality is he wasn't good defensively last season and Braylon was obviously our starter and will be our starter when he's healthy again. Of course there's going to be some pushback on that...

I personally think what Ross can bring if he plays well is more important than what Stewart can bring if he plays well for a couple of reasons. Ross is more athletic than Stewart and a plug and play wing off the bench who hopefully can shut down really tough perimeter assignments is an important thing for this team to have along with him being active and using his athleticism all over the court. Silas, Malachi, and Braylon are going to be really good defensively but they're not a legit 6'7 205 lbs...

Stewart has AK in front of him at what I think is Stewart's best position and Hurley rarely takes AK off the court. My hope is AK plays 29 minutes per game this season to always keep him fresh and Jaylin plays well enough in those replacement sf minutes where there isn't a huge drop off (Jaylin will get minutes at the three too.)

Both Jayden and Jaylin have to show consistency. The opportunity is there with Braylon out just like it was there last season with Liam out.
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There are absolutely many posters on this board that are just itching for Ross to have a lousy boxscore, to airball a 3, or to fall for a pumpfake so they can crow about it in a post-game thread. I won't name names but anyone who pays attention knows who they are. Thankfully, they are not the "majority" of posters but it doesn't make them any less annoying and ridiculous.
 
Dove said:
My comment was a call back to a silly comment made in chat by the Yarder I replied to. Only about 6 people here would get it and I risked it.
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Make that 7, because I'm sure you didn't count me because I post so infrequently and almost never in the chat. I totally got your sarcasm.
 
HW611 said:
I think Stew is 100% the better post defender and that's where his strength is. Which is why he was able to do such a great job against Dixon last year. Not able to keep up as much against players on the perimeter.

Ross is the better perimeter defender and is also not good against strong guys in the post.

I haven't watched enough of AJ to know where his game is here.
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simple and well said.........
 
AllHusky said:
Wow, is this kid that good? Ricker you are pretty level headed. You saying this scares me!!! Are we talking LeBron-esque??
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Looking at his early 3 game results doesn't show what I saw vs Australia and Canada in the FIBA. Versus Australia he was 12-15 from the line and vs Canada 12-13. In addition to going to the line, he drew reach in fouls defending him which were non-shooting. Those games in combination with how much we foul, may have skewed my thinking. I see other games I have not watched that don't have him going to the line as much. Adrian Dantley of Notre Dame and Mark Aguire from Depaul used to score at the foul line and wreck havoc drawing fouls. I had them in mind at the time. My point may prove to be overstated.
 
superjohn said:
I really haven't seen people dismissing Ross other than maybe Navery. People have said they want to see him play well in games, especially games against big time opponents (we haven't seen that in his career) because his athleticism on the wing is something this team could really benefit from...

We have "you know who" always saying he should start and that he's great defensively when the reality is he wasn't good defensively last season and Braylon was obviously our starter and will be our starter when he's healthy again. Of course there's going to be some pushback on that...

I personally think what Ross can bring if he plays well is more important than what Stewart can bring if he plays well for a couple of reasons. Ross is more athletic than Stewart and a plug and play wing off the bench who hopefully can shut down really tough perimeter assignments is an important thing for this team to have along with him being active and using his athleticism all over the court. Silas, Malachi, and Braylon are going to be really good defensively but they're not a legit 6'7 205 lbs...

Stewart has AK in front of him at what I think is Stewart's best position and Hurley rarely takes AK off the court. My hope is AK plays 29 minutes per game this season to always keep him fresh and Jaylin plays well enough in those replacement sf minutes where there isn't a huge drop off (Jaylin will get minutes at the three too.)

Both Jayden and Jaylin have to show consistency. The opportunity is there with Braylon out just like it was there last season with Liam out.
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I like, support and want every player on this team to do well. I’m not being critical of any player when I make my posts. I just don’t see what some see in both Stewart and Ross. I see improvement maybe more so in Ross than Stewart but that doesn’t mean I see prime time coming up. I also think that Ross has special athleticism but getting him to harness it is another story. I think that both kids will have their moments but as far as being integral rotation pieces, I don’t know. Hope so but I don’t know. I really like our guards play and having Ball, Demary, and Smith together on the court on occasion is fun for me to watch.
 
This negative Stewart stuff is not data driven. On our team YTD, he is second per game in assists (3.3) and third in rebounds (4.0). He is in the middle of the pack with 8 points per game, but is shooting 53% FG and 75% FT.
I agree front court depth against a team with 2-3 good Bigs will be our weakness, if Reed picks up early fouls and if Reibe develops slowly.
I get it, small sample against weak opponents but it is real game numbers.
 
Chief00 said:
This negative Stewart stuff is not data driven. On our team YTD, he is second per game in assists (3.3) and third in rebounds (4.0). He is in the middle of the pack with 8 points per game, but is shooting 53% FG and 75% FT.
I agree front court depth against a team with 2-3 good Bigs will be our weakness, if Reed picks up early fouls and if Reibe develops slowly.
I get it, small sample against weak opponents but it is real game numbers.
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1) I agree. Stewart's engagement and energy levels have been high and consistent despite the lack of production.
2) We won't be encountering many teams with duper deep frontcourts. I'm far less concerned about Reibe than many here, but keeping Reed out of foul trouble will be key.
 
NJHusky said:
These guys really looove UConn. Lol

Why do these guys have a following? Saying we don’t have enough bench. 🤪
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They push out a ton of college hoops content, keep it colorful. Greg and the other guy here have a pretty good handle on the landscape.

I don’t think Greg is anti UConn.
 
RuffRuff said:
They push out a ton of college hoops content, keep it colorful. Greg and the other guy here have a pretty good handle on the landscape.

I don’t think Greg is anti UConn.
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The guy on the left barely speaks. And seems to just be a sounding board for the other guy. Not a fan.
 
RuffRuff said:
They push out a ton of college hoops content, keep it colorful. Greg and the other guy here have a pretty good handle on the landscape.

I don’t think Greg is anti UConn.
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I wouldn’t call him a hater but he’s had more uconn critical takes than not over the last 4 years. They do put out a lot of content, so credit there.
 
Bazz4A said:
I wouldn’t call him a hater but he’s had more uconn critical takes than not over the last 4 years. They do put out a lot of content, so credit there.
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I'd say he's fairly objective - he doesn't love or hate Uconn, loves Hurley because he provides a ton of content. I enjoy objectivity, which is hard to come by here sometimes.
 
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