Colorado in Big XII

[Slasher]

I think the Big 12s preferences are probably something like this:

1) Oregon
2) Washington
3) Arizona
4) UConn
5) Arizona State
6) Stanford
7) Utah

With 3 spots open. Stanford will say no anyways so that can be removed. Feels like Washington is a no as well. Oregon is a maybe. But Oregon + Arizona + UConn gets you to 16 and really balances the conference.

 

[Slasher]

Cincinnati will go another 60+ years of never winning a championship in anything. Second best college football team in that part of Ohio, 4th best college basketball team in that part of Ohio.

You're delirious right? Cincinnati is far better in hoops than Xavier (never made a final four - Cincinnati has 6 including 2 titles) and Dayton (18 tourneys, 1 final four.)

 

[superjohn]

You're delirious right? Cincinnati is far better in hoops than Xavier (never made a final four - Cincinnati has 6 including 2 titles) and Dayton (18 tourneys, 1 final four.)

Xavier beats their arse every time they play. You can hold water for Cincinnati but Oscar isn't walking through that door. Miserable program.

 

[Fishy]

Xavier is a better basketball program.

It’s not debatable.

Look who Cincy hired when they had an opening. Look who Xavier hired.

Thank you for playing.

 

[Vowelguy]

If CU goes to the B12, then the PAC 12 will fall apart. It means that they really don’t have a TV contract and without the Denver market it gets worse for the PAC 12.

I don’t see the B1G expanding unless they can find another media partner to pay them 200 million to add Washington & Oregon. The same goes for the SEC. That leaves the ACC, and ESPN has some money to spend to further expand the ACCN. Washington, Oregon, Stanford, Cal , AZ & ASU are all potential targets
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I don’t think usc/ucla is sustainable over the long term by themselves. BiG will want a few more western schools.

 

[giddyup]

Xavier beats their arse every time they play. You can hold water for Cincinnati but Oscar isn't walking through that door. Miserable program.

Land of delusional left overs…nobody dreams of going there. Pathetic, poser institution.

 

[Vowelguy]

I think the Big 12s preferences are probably something like this:

1) Oregon
2) Washington
3) Arizona
4) UConn
5) Arizona State
6) Stanford
7) Utah

With 3 spots open. Stanford will say no anyways so that can be removed. Feels like Washington is a no as well. Oregon is a maybe. But Oregon + Arizona + UConn gets you to 16 and really balances the conference.

I thought I heard awhile back that AZ and ASU are bound by state law to be in the same conference. One can’t move without the other. Can anyone confirm.

 

[jostar1]

I thought I heard awhile back that AZ and ASU are bound by state law to be in the same conference. One can’t move without the other. Can anyone confirm.

The President of one of those schools denied it.

 

[Slasher]

Xavier beats their arse every time they play. You can hold water for Cincinnati but Oscar isn't walking through that door. Miserable program.

The all-time series is 51-39 Cincinnati but ok. Lots of people have short memories I guess.

 

[superjohn]

The all-time series is 51-39 Cincinnati but ok. Lots of people have short memories I guess.

Cool story and UConn has a losing record to St. John's.

 

[B1GEast]

If the PAC 12 invites San Diego State to replace Colorado, then I think UConn goes to the Big 12.

I don't think Yormark wants to kill the PAC 12 even though he just killed the PAC 12.

I believe UConn gets the call soon.

 

[WestCoastHusky]

Last thing we need the B1G swooping in causing more chaos. I just hope we find a home before they starting to make their moves.

How Colorado, Big 12 aggression could force Tony Petitti's hand with B1G expansion

Roughly a half hour before word leaked Wednesday of Colorado ramping up discussions for a return to the Big 12, Tony Petitti settled in for his final interview of the day.

www.on3.com

 

[nadav]

The all-time series is 51-39 Cincinnati but ok. Lots of people have short memories I guess.

Short memories!! Cinci haven’t played in a meaningful basketball game since 1992.

 

[Huskyforlife]

I think my only hope is Oregon and Arizona both wanna jump, so they need a 4th school to round it out, and the remaining PAC schools seem less appealing than us.

 

[noeynox]

uconn thinking they're even on our radar?

we're going big game fishing boys, sorry.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Last thing we need the B1G swooping in causing more chaos. I just hope we find a home before they starting to make their moves.

How Colorado, Big 12 aggression could force Tony Petitti's hand with B1G expansion

Roughly a half hour before word leaked Wednesday of Colorado ramping up discussions for a return to the Big 12, Tony Petitti settled in for his final interview of the day.

www.on3.com

Wrong. We absolutely need the Big 10 swooping in and adding Oregon, Washington, California and Stanford.

 

[HuskyHawk]

The all-time series is 51-39 Cincinnati but ok. Lots of people have short memories I guess.

If by short you mean, since we’ve been alive, ok. Games from the 1950s aren’t really critical now. Cinci deserves props for really improving football. But they burned basketball to the ground when the Leprechaun left. Big XII might give them a chance to fix that, but it’s going to be ugly first. Might be the worst team in the conference.

 

[Kolumbo]

Only way UConn goes to Big 12 is if the university presidents agree to a basketball-only deal. Yormack wants this for his little basketball TNT-deal daydream scenario.

No one will accept us and share money as a full member, they’d rather take Arizona, Utah, Memphis, or Oregon.

 

[Fishy]

If the PAC 12 invites San Diego State to replace Colorado, then I think UConn goes to the Big 12.

I don't think Yormark wants to kill the PAC 12 even though he just killed the PAC 12.

I believe UConn gets the call soon.

He'd happily kill the P12. He's literally tried to do it since he got the job.

 

[CL82]

Only way UConn goes to Big 12 is if the university presidents agree to a basketball-only deal. Yormack wants this for his little basketball TNT-deal daydream scenario.

No one will accept us and share money as a full member, they’d rather take Arizona, Utah, Memphis, or Oregon.

Exactly, well except that Yormark said that FBS playing schools would only be considered for full membership. But, I'm sure you know better than he does.

 

[Kolumbo]

"If the rest of the Pac-12 holds together and doesn’t follow Colorado, Big 12 commissioner Brett Yormark would like to target Big East basketball member and football independent Connecticut. There is belief within the conference that Yormark is far more enamored with the Huskies than other members. “There is some work to do on studying UConn,” a Big 12 source cautions.

"But Yormark might have gained further credibility and trust by delivering Colorado. That could empower his pitch to pursue UConn, a basketball gold mine in the northeast but a football underachiever over the last decade."

https://www.si.com/college/2023/07/26/colorado-nearing-move-to-big-12

 

[UDann]

You're delirious right? Cincinnati is far better in hoops than Xavier (never made a final four - Cincinnati has 6 including 2 titles) and Dayton (18 tourneys, 1 final four.)

This was fun

 

[Stinger92860]

Only way UConn goes to Big 12 is if the university presidents agree to a basketball-only deal. Yormack wants this for his little basketball TNT-deal daydream scenario.

No one will accept us and share money as a full member, they’d rather take Arizona, Utah, Memphis, or Oregon.

The media partner(s) determines the value of the addition. The conference can choose to pass on the full share. Word on the street is we get a full share. Anything north of we get now, is acceptable, but I expect UConn will negotiate pro-rata.

 

[B1GEast]

He'd happily kill the P12. He's literally tried to do it since he got the job.

The Big 12 and the PAC 12 were in the same boat. Both with major conference defections, both needing to negotiate media deals.

Yormark was proactive and went after the best remaining teams in the AAC.

Yormark saved his confidence Klaibkoff has no business being a commissioner. He just got his lunch eaten by the Big 12 simply by not understanding the shifting conference landscape. I don't think Yormark's intention was to destroy the PAC as much as it was to save the Big 12.

That's a way different narrative

One guy was proactive the other dragged his feet. You snooze you lose. It wasn't personal just business

 

[B1GEast]

The Big 12 and the PAC 12 were in the same boat. Both with major conference defections, both needing to negotiate media deals.

Yormark was proactive and went after the best remaining teams in the AAC.

Yormark saved his confidence Klaibkoff has no business being a commissioner. He just got his lunch eaten by the Big 12 simply by not understanding the shifting conference landscape. I don't think Yormark's intention was to destroy the PAC as much as it was to save the Big 12.

That's a way different narrative

One guy was proactive the other dragged his feet. You snooze you lose. It wasn't personal just business

In 2021 when the Big 12 lost Oklahoma and Texas to the SEC the Big 12 was done. The PAC 12 could have expanded by taking the best of what was left of the Big 12 and would have been the third best conference and would have been able to secure a big TV contract.

The PAC 12 did it to themselves

 

[aburks41]

https://www.star-telegram.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/mac-engel/article277695468.html

According to sources, the Big 12 and commissioner Brett Yormark is now targeting the University of Arizona, which would likely mean an invitation to Arizona State University. The University of Connecticut is another school that has been attached to Big 12 expansion talks, but with the Pac-12 losing members the Big 12’s focus is targeting those universities first.

We're being dangled as bait and it's so obvious. Yormark is telling these schools that if they don't bite, their invite is going to UConn. In reality, they never had any intention of inviting us

 

[Nostical]

No one’s a bigger fan of Yormark than me but he had nothing to do with absorbing the three AAC teams and BYU. That was a Bob Bowlsby‘s strategy. Yormark has been the ultimate outside the box thinker (and doer) and he’s garnered tremendous respect and credibility with his conference members for brilliantly recognizing the earlier he made a media deal the better.
If he wasn’t commissioner, UConn would not have been mentioned as a possible candidate. It’s now all about him convincing his membership on the future value of UConn football, the current preeminence of Husky BBall, and the importance of having a Northeast (NYC) presence. It’s hard to imagine them not giving Yormark his vision. If he pushes for UConn we get in. If he demurs, waiting for other Pac12 defections, it’s more problematic. I’m betting on Yormark pushing for us.

 

[Dizzy21]

The media partner(s) determines the value of the addition. The conference can choose to pass on the full share. Word on the street is we get a full share. Anything north of we get now, is acceptable, but I expect UConn will negotiate pro-rata.

It's a myth that even P5 teams have a full share guaranteed. That's only ESPNs portion. Fox did not sign on to that part of the deal. Anyone who says we or any P5 team automatically get a full share doesn't know what they are talking about.

 

[Slasher]

Short memories!! Cinci haven’t played in a meaningful basketball game since 1992.

By this metric Xavier has never played a meaningful basketball game.

 

[WestCoastHusky]

https://www.star-telegram.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/mac-engel/article277695468.html

According to sources, the Big 12 and commissioner Brett Yormark is now targeting the University of Arizona, which would likely mean an invitation to Arizona State University. The University of Connecticut is another school that has been attached to Big 12 expansion talks, but with the Pac-12 losing members the Big 12’s focus is targeting those universities first.

We're being dangled as bait and it's so obvious. Yormark is telling these schools that if they don't bite, their invite is going to UConn. In reality, they never had any intention of inviting us

As UConn fans, our hope is either of the following scenarios happen:

1. Colorado leaving. The rest of PAC-12 stayed together and either invite SDSU alone or add SDSU, SMU, and Fresno/UNLV.

2. Colorado, Arizona, and ASU leaving while the rest of the PAC-12 stayed together and added the schools in option 1. The pool might expand to include Colorado State, Hawaii, and Boise State.

I hope option 1 happens since it will give UConn the best chance to get into the B12. If option 2 is what happens next, we might be ok since we will be #16.

With option 2, we might also be screwed since every PAC-12 team might be looking for a home including Oregon and Washington. Our only hope is Brett Yormark can sell the vision that we are needed to have the B12 in the EST time zone.

We should all hope scenario 1 is the reality not option 2.

We might be witnessing the death of the PAC-12 like the old Big East. It is a sad day for the PAC schools and college sports, but it's a reality in today's NIL greedy $$$$$$ world.