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Imagine being Andre Jackson listening to this interview that makes it seem like recruiting him and getting a championship from it was a “mistake”
OK, he also very clearly says that he wants offensively-capable players that are tough and willing to stick their nose in on defense.
He spent his first 4 years recruiting and coaching "toughness" (after KO left the program bereft of both toughness and talent) and hoping to get enough offense out of them, and it limited our ceiling.
I think he’s on record about wanting good kids from good families. Which would lead into the belief we’re recruiting nice guys.
Even though dogs can come from these places. But still.
Yeah but Cam and Clingan don't have tattoos. Solo's entire body is covered in them so he's meanest and toughest SOB we've ever had.I think he's on record having players like Steph Castle, Cam Spencer, Donovan Clingan - I don't recall people complaining about his lack of meanness. Were those guys soft nice guys? Landrew seems to fit the profile. It's a bit goofy to single out this particular mix as reflective of some shift in philosophy by Hurley. But it's the Boneyard, if it's not a scorching hot take it's not worth making.
It's two years in a row and a HS recruiting class. Last year he went out and got Mahaney, Tarris and McNeeley.I think he's on record having players like Steph Castle, Cam Spencer, Donovan Clingan - I don't recall people complaining about his lack of meanness. Were those guys soft nice guys? Landrew seems to fit the profile. It's a bit goofy to single out this particular mix as reflective of some shift in philosophy by Hurley. But it's the Boneyard, if it's not a scorching hot take it's not worth making.
McNeeley fits the profile you are looking for, he's a fiery player who plays with swagger and he talks trash.It's two years in a row and a HS recruiting class. Last year he went out and got Mahaney, Tarris and McNeeley.
Let's see what he does this portal year. Reserving any notion he stays with this template for now, as he's now voiced his frustration with make up two years in a row. Will be curious to whether he adjusts.
I don’t think you know Mike Repole very well. I can assure you that he isn’t signing blank checks and handing them to Ed Kull annually without seeing some success in return.Agree, but one key difference is that because of Mike Repole, they can miss on guys they spend big $$ on and have it not really matter.
Solo Ball has tattoos, but he was recruited a few years ago, so doesn't count. I'm still trying to figure this outMcNeeley fits the profile you are looking for, he's a fiery player who plays with swagger and he talks trash.
He doesn't have any tattoos though so he has that working against him.
?? They cursed out Calhoun in public. It was in the newspapers. I even know the insults.no he left when his one year of eligibility was removed due to UConn issues and transferred to Missouri to play. Liked watching him.
Nothing you said disproves my point. Sure, he does want to see success in return, which is why he didn't do this until they got Pitino. Credit to them, but Pitino has made comment after comment about not even looking at HS players and going "straight to the negotiating table." And he's even admitted how it's made his recruiting job easier.I don’t think you know Mike Repole very well. I can assure you that he isn’t signing blank checks and handing them to Ed Kull annually without seeing some success in return.
Blows me away how many people here are experts on everything from NIL to NCAA tournament broadcast rights holders’ scheduling strategies.
I don’t think you know Mike Repole very well. I can assure you that he isn’t signing blank checks and handing them to Ed Kull annually without seeing some success in return.
Blows me away how many people here are experts on everything from NIL to NCAA tournament broadcast rights holders’ scheduling strategies.
Huh? we were hearing about it in April as likely then we lost an appeal earlier in April so no secret at that point. He transferred in April because of that and the ban was formally announced June 20?? They cursed out Calhoun in public. It was in the newspapers. I even know the insults.
BTW, Alex announced his transfer to Missouri in early April. The ban did not come until later that summer. UConn couldn't have known they would use a retroactive ban because what they did was actually outside their own rules.
I agree with your post for the most part, but Tristen was not a nice guy on the court towards opponents. There were many times I would see him talking trash and not saying nice things to opponents-I loved that about him. He had the rip your heart out cutthroat mentality just like Cam did, but he didn't show his emotions like Cam. I think people sometimes get fooled by his calm demeanor which was the perfect ying to yang of Hurley's sideline behavior.This discussion reminds me about what was said about univ of Texas football late in the Mack brown era. They said Texas had a bunch of guys you wouldn’t mind your daughter bringing home but that doesn’t make a great football team.
Of course you don’t want to go the urban Meyer at Florida route either.
There needs to be balance. Tristan and Alex were quiet guys nice guys. Cam Ajax Steph even joey California on the other hand had attitude
He had exactly 50 posts yesterday. He's only at 14 so far today so brace yourself.It's weird to ascribe it to some kind of intentional "move" by Hurley. Like it was a philosophical shift to recruit nice guys. This falls in the "every thought doesn't merit a post" camp.
Hey man we're just idly speculating about why our 29-win 2 seed team is bad, that's all. The game has changed, haven't you heard?The results that we've seen over the past few years would turn Rupp Rafters into a meditation gathering at a Tibetan monastery, but we've got people acting like this.
Seriously, what results would be good enough? If we don't run through this tournament and cut down the nets three weeks from today it will mean that Dan Hurley will have failed at something that everyone in this sport at this level other than John Wooden has failed at (winning three titles in four years).
From the time they allowed multiple bids from a conference (50 years ago) only three schools have ever won back to back titles. There have been quite a few hall of fame coaches in that time frame who couldn't do it.
Should we aspire to being the best team out there year after year? Absolutely.
Does Dan Hurley have the same aspirations? I'd bet my house on it.
Will we accomplish this every year? There is no way that this could be possible.
I'll wager heavily that Dan Hurley knows far better than we do what this team's shortcomings are and he knows better than all but a very short list of people how to game plan around these shortcomings.
At this point in the season he can't bring in a Cam Spencer or Adama Sanogo to plug some of the holes on the roster. He can't tell Demary to have Shabazz Napier's persona on the floor and have it somehow happen.
Yes, there were a few things he could have done differently last offseason, but there is no guarantee that a few different moves would have produced a better team than what we currently have.
He doesn't want mercenaries, he wants guys who will fit with the program because he wants the program to run for years. He isn't trying to make one last ditch run at the brass ring the way Pitino is. He isn't trying to buy credibility the way a few schools with little history are operating.
I would love someone to tell me what coach's results at any one school over the past five decades would be enough to make them happy, figure out what Dan Hurley will need to accomplish over the next time however many years to match those results. I'll wager heavily that everyone here would be disappointed with what the required results would be.
To match K he would need three more titles, but have three decades to do it. Anyone else would take at most two more, with more than a decade to get there.
If we were told that from here on out, we would win one title every five years for the next fifteen years, then Dan Hurley would call it a career, who would sign up for that right now? I know everyone here wants far more than that, but in reality, that may be an absurd expectation.
I want more, but I also realize that it is a ridiculous expectation.
Massive stretch considering that Andre Jackson seems to not harbor any negativity towards Hurley as isImagine being Andre Jackson listening to this interview that makes it seem like recruiting him and getting a championship from it was a “mistake”
appeal was denied early april. That is when Alex transferred. Formal ban was announced in june.Huh? we were hearing about it in April as likely then we lost an appeal earlier in April so no secret at that point. He transferred in April because of that and the ban was formally announced June 20
You said “they can miss on guys they spend big$$ on and have it not really matter.” You can say it all you want. It’s simply not true. Your response to my post doesn’t even address what I wrote.Nothing you said disproves my point. Sure, he does want to see success in return, which is why he didn't do this until they got Pitino. Credit to them, but Pitino has made comment after comment about not even looking at HS players and going "straight to the negotiating table." And he's even admitted how it's made his recruiting job easier.
I hate to say this but Hurley is going to have to take a page from Pitino’s shopping habits. We need some physical thugs with skills and the staff can mold them from there.
I’m not saying there’s something there. I’m just saying how weird that must be to hear your former coach talk about his player profile that way.Massive stretch considering that Andre Jackson seems to not harbor any negativity towards Hurley as is
Silas has a big tattoo on his leg but nothing on his arms, Landrew has a big tattoo on his arm. If you could merge the two you would have the perfect player.Solo Ball has tattoos, but he was recruited a few years ago, so doesn't count. I'm still trying to figure this out
I think it's better to build for the NCAA environment than the big east environment. the way the big east is ref'd it's just a distinct playstyle.
Landrew’s more dynamic and guard skill oriented than either of those guysI’m thinking Dereck Williams or Sean miller?
The results that we've seen over the past few years would turn Rupp Rafters into a meditation gathering at a Tibetan monastery, but we've got people acting like this.
Seriously, what results would be good enough? If we don't run through this tournament and cut down the nets three weeks from today it will mean that Dan Hurley will have failed at something that everyone in this sport at this level other than John Wooden has failed at (winning three titles in four years).
From the time they allowed multiple bids from a conference (50 years ago) only three schools have ever won back to back titles. There have been quite a few hall of fame coaches in that time frame who couldn't do it.
Should we aspire to being the best team out there year after year? Absolutely.
Does Dan Hurley have the same aspirations? I'd bet my house on it.
Will we accomplish this every year? There is no way that this could be possible.
I'll wager heavily that Dan Hurley knows far better than we do what this team's shortcomings are and he knows better than all but a very short list of people how to game plan around these shortcomings.
At this point in the season he can't bring in a Cam Spencer or Adama Sanogo to plug some of the holes on the roster. He can't tell Demary to have Shabazz Napier's persona on the floor and have it somehow happen.
Yes, there were a few things he could have done differently last offseason, but there is no guarantee that a few different moves would have produced a better team than what we currently have.
He doesn't want mercenaries, he wants guys who will fit with the program because he wants the program to run for years. He isn't trying to make one last ditch run at the brass ring the way Pitino is. He isn't trying to buy credibility the way a few schools with little history are operating.
I would love someone to tell me what coach's results at any one school over the past five decades would be enough to make them happy, figure out what Dan Hurley will need to accomplish over the next time however many years to match those results. I'll wager heavily that everyone here would be disappointed with what the required results would be.
To match K he would need three more titles, but have three decades to do it. Anyone else would take at most two more, with more than a decade to get there.
If we were told that from here on out, we would win one title every five years for the next fifteen years, then Dan Hurley would call it a career, who would sign up for that right now? I know everyone here wants far more than that, but in reality, that may be an absurd expectation.
I want more, but I also realize that it is a ridiculous expectation.