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Coaching change coming @ UMass

ucp990411 said:
Live in VT, go to some games, read the paper every day and I have no idea what you are talking about. Please tell what this is.
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This isn’t a snarky reply, but I typed “Vermont basketball sexual assault” into google and got articles about student protests last year and last month.
 
Not snarky at all. I remember the allegation that was dismissed a couple of years ago but was not aware of the recent allegation. As I said I read the news but it is rare that I watch the news. Just because Becker does not comment on what might be an active case does not mean he is in hot water.
 
Tenspro2002 said:
Honestly, this strikes me as more of a step-down job than a step-up job.

Someone who just got fired from a P5 spot, UMass looking to make a splashy "name" hire.

This would be an awful spot for Kimani Young. He's not ready for a power conference, but there's gotta be a sexier mid-major job out there.
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UMass might need a splashy, proven coach or a hot shot up and comer. I don't know if there are too man "sexy mid-majors." UMass is the 3rd largest university in the A-10 and one of only two flagships. It needs to do better.
 
ucp990411 said:
Not snarky at all. I remember the allegation that was dismissed a couple of years ago but was not aware of the recent allegation. As I said I read the news but it is rare that I watch the news. Just because Becker does not comment on what might be an active case does not mean he is in hot water.
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This. Becker is in hot water about nothing. There have been allegations thrown around the UVM campus about unnamed and unattributed acts of assault by an Instagram profile whose creators won’t actually provide details. Yes, there have been rallies. Yes, there has been talk of assaults taking place on campus. But saying Becker is in hot water is just not accurate. At all.
 
karstenkibbe said:
This. Becker is in hot water about nothing. There have been allegations thrown around the UVM campus about unnamed and unattributed acts of assault by an Instagram profile whose creators won’t actually provide details. Yes, there have been rallies. Yes, there has been talk of assaults taking place on campus. But saying Becker is in hot water is just not accurate. At all.
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You can't possibly be serious. Do you really need victim's names and specific details of what happened to take a sexual assault claim seriously?
 
Anyone remember the early-mid 90s when the A-10 passed the Big East? UMass, Temple, I think GW were all really good, and the Big East went through some serious down years.
Long time ago.
 
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Palatine said:
There are coaches who have won at UMass. But I think they have only made the NCAA once this century. As I posted, I think Kimani can do better.
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Only one I can remember is Calipari, and that was like 30 years ago.
 
The A-10 claimed they had passed the Big East back then but that does not mean that they really had. In the (alleged) down years of the Big East in the early 1990's the conference was still better overall, especially at the middle and bottom. The one thing they could claim was one year the A-10 had three schools (UMass, Temple and GW) make the sweet 16. We did that countless times before and after.
 
Weeks and Fernandes would be of some interest to me this summer if they transfer depending on how our scholarship situation shakes out with Cole/Martin/transfers.
 
navery12 said:
You can't possibly be serious. Do you really need victim's names and specific details of what happened to take a sexual assault claim seriously?
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You’re really something else, the board’s holier than thou guy. How dare you put words in my mouth and imply that I said that. I said Becker wasn’t in hot water. I didn’t say any allegations weren’t serious.
 
They must miss Mitchell...not really as he will be entering the portal again as his father trashes Beard via social media and his kid is taking online classes in Minnesota I think it is after leaving the team. lol
 
CONN78SEJ said:
Only one I can remember is Calipari, and that was like 30 years ago.
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Did he coach there? I thought the NCAA purged that from our collective memories.
 
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Kolumbo said:
Marcus Camby

UMass is an awesome coaching job with a ton of upside. The A-10 is a fun regional basketball conference, great rivalries, and a chance for a quality guy to make UMass overshadow the clowns in chestnut hill. Also a good stepping stone for someone with higher aspirations. UMass should rise to dominate the A-10.
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Didn't he cause UMess to vacate a Final Four appearance because he was accepting jewelry and other gifts from agents?
 
ucp990411 said:
But have any of them won honestly? Ok, maybe Jack Leamon
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UMass Coaches since 1975
Jack Leaman 1966-79 | Record 217-126
Ray Wilson 1979-81 | Record 5-48
Tom McLaughlin 1981-83 | Record 16-40
Ron Gerlufsen 1983-88 | Record 55-84
John Calipari 1988-96 | Record 189-70
Bruiser Flint 1996-01 | Record 86-72
Steve Lappas 2001-05 | Record 50-65
Travis Ford 2005-08 | Record 62-35
Derek Kellogg 2008-17 | Record 155-137
Matt McCall 2017-2022 | Record 58-81

Only two UMass coaches in some 50 years have ever left Amherst for better jobs - Calipari (NBA NJ Nets) and Ford (Okl St). Leaman had success but retired. Most all the others were fired or resigned before being terminated. Calipari is the only coach to have ever won in the NCAA Tournament at UMass.
 
Inyatkin said:
Anyone remember the early-mid 90s when the A-10 passed the Big East? UMass, Temple, I think GW were all really good, and the Big East went through some serious down years.
Long time ago.
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A10 didn't pass the Big East in the early to mid 90s.

From 1990 to 1996:

Top 10 Coaches Poll finishes: BE: 9, A10: 2

Top 25 Coaches Poll finishes: BE: 23, A10: 9

Different schools ranked: BE: 7, A10: 4

A10 had one year, 1993, where they had more teams ranked than the Big East, 3-1, but the Big East school was higher ranked the the 3 A10 schools.
 
Palatine said:
Didn't he cause UMess to vacate a Final Four appearance because he was accepting jewelry and other gifts from agents?
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Yes, and the last time I went to a game there (maybe 15 years ago) they were still displaying the Final Four banner even though their appearance had been vacated.
They needed some validation about being right up there with UConn as far as basketball success. I used to hear about "the Cage" and Julius Erving and then Marcus Camby from fans I knew and they, as a fan base, had much more hatred (real) for UConn than anything I've read here about UConn fans and another school.
 
UConnJim said:
A10 didn't pass the Big East in the early to mid 90s.

From 1990 to 1996:

Top 10 Coaches Poll finishes: BE: 9, A10: 2

Top 25 Coaches Poll finishes: BE: 23, A10: 9

Different schools ranked: BE: 7, A10: 4

A10 had one year, 1993, where they had more teams ranked than the Big East, 3-1, but the Big East school was higher ranked the the 3 A10 schools.
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It was a dry spell for the Big East though. No Final Four teams in the 90s before Syracuse 96.

I brought it up just because the A-10 has barely been relevant for 20 years.
 
Inyatkin said:
Anyone remember the early-mid 90s when the A-10 passed the Big East? UMass, Temple, I think GW were all really good, and the Big East went through some serious down years.
Long time ago.
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Maybe I’m misreading these listings, but most of those years the A-10 only had UMass ranked in the top 25; they had a second team in 2 or 3 years. The Big East generally had at least 3 teams in the final rankings. So, to answer your question, no, I don’t remember that.

1990 Atlantic 10 men's basketball tournament - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org
 
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CCSUblue said:
Saw a rumor they're going after Pitino.
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They should. The Big East is considering adding another school, if ever there was a time for UMASS to put their best foot forward and invest in basketball it is now.

Pitino is a UMASS alum BTW. Class of 74.
 
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metsfan2323 said:
I agree 100%. I don't understand this "Kimani could do better" talk. Based on what exactly can he do better? Hurley had to turn around Wagner before he landed an A10 job. The A10 is a good league and UMASS has as much potential as any team in that league.

More than likely Kimani doesn't have the resume for the job as they will probably want someone who has proven themselves as a head coach. If he did get offered the job he should jump at it.
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Yea I'm not sure why people think he's just gonna walk right into a power conference program HC job. I mean look at Kyle Neptune - dude was an assistant at Nova for 8 years, bringing them from an average Big East program to a national powerhouse with 2 NCs. The HC job he literally just got is at Fordham, which is a worse job than UMASS. Additionally, with Kimani being a NY guy I'd have to imagine that he was atleast thought of for the Fordham job but they went with Neptune. So basically we're saying that in one year time he went from not being a major candidate for the Fordham job to a guy who's gonna get a high major job.

I think he's gonna be a heck of a HC but there are typically steps that these guys take of going from High Major Assistant -> Low/Mid Major HC -> High Major HC
 
4xChamps said:
Yea I'm not sure why people think he's just gonna walk right into a power conference program HC job. I mean look at Kyle Neptune - dude was an assistant at Nova for 8 years, bringing them from an average Big East program to a national powerhouse with 2 NCs. The HC job he literally just got is at Fordham, which is a worse job than UMASS. Additionally, with Kimani being a NY guy I'd have to imagine that he was atleast thought of for the Fordham job but they went with Neptune. So basically we're saying that in one year time he went from not being a major candidate for the Fordham job to a guy who's gonna get a high major job.

I think he's gonna be a heck of a HC but there are typically steps that these guys take of going from High Major Assistant -> Low/Mid Major HC -> High Major HC
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I haven't seen anyone suggest he should walk right into a high major job. I think he will end up getting a mid-major job first, but hopefully it's at a good school and not one that's a disaster like UMass. That's the type of job that'll ruin your career
 
navery12 said:
I haven't seen anyone suggest he should walk right into a high major job. I think he will end up getting a mid-major job first, but hopefully it's at a good school and not one that's a disaster like UMass. That's the type of job that'll ruin your career
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From this thread:
ConnecticutBB said:
If Kimani should leave….Maryland is looking too.
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CONN78SEJ said:
Lol. Do you remember a player named Marcus Camby?
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Vaguely, he never participated in the NCAA tournament did he? At least there is no official record of it.
 
navery12 said:
I haven't seen anyone suggest he should walk right into a high major job. I think he will end up getting a mid-major job first,
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But I don’t want him to coach at Syracuse.
 
Inyatkin said:
Anyone remember the early-mid 90s when the A-10 passed the Big East? UMass, Temple, I think GW were all really good, and the Big East went through some serious down years.
Long time ago.
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Were those the Jon Chaney and Calipari years? “Shut up”…….”I’m gonna kill you”……”you Italian sob”
 
metsfan2323 said:
They should. The Big East is considering adding another school, if ever there was a time for UMASS to put their best foot forward and invest in basketball it is now.

Pitino is a UMASS alum BTW. Class of 74.
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Could definitely see Pitino going to UMass, location is only negative vs Iona - but he's not in the national conversation at Iona and this would be a marketable story of potential win-win rehabilitation of coach & program at his alma matter.
I kinda like it from a villain to root against scenario - would definitely put NE basketball in the news...
 
Dogdeacon said:
Could definitely see Pitino going to UMass, location is only negative vs Iona - but he's not in the national conversation at Iona and this would be a marketable story of potential win-win rehabilitation of coach & program at his alma matter.
I kinda like it from a villain to root against scenario - would definitely put NE basketball in the news...
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Pitino is either staying at Iona or going to a better school than UMass. Iona is in a good location, close to Pitino's house on Winged Foot, most games are played close to Iona, and Iona has made the NCAA Tournament every year since 2016. If Pitino stays at Iona, he could develop the program into a really good team and play high profile out of conference games.
 
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