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Coach Hurley says this year's team can't take "hard" coaching

I’ve said this before but now comes the test for Hurley. K won back to back then won several more over his career. Donovan won back to back then never won another. One is a hall of famer. One is a good coach. We’ll see what Hurley does over the next decade. If he wins another that will put him in the HOM category.
Yes, you said it before and now you're wrong for a second time. Billy Donovan is a great coach and will be a Hall of Famer.
 
But this quote? It’s exposing some in this fanbase I believe who just don’t care for the guy.
Nonsense. Nobody on this board has been a bigger Hurley booster over the years than I have. And I think it was a gaffe.
 
Its simple. Two of your starters have no business being starters. Another is a 3rd option at best who you depend on to be at worst the 2nd and lead you and then you have a second year guy with a ton of talent that cant seem to get it done consistently. Add to that you have basically no depth and its pretty easy to see hard coaching isnt going to fix htis. This team simply isnt as good as we all would like it to be and thats fine. We`ve had an amazing run the last two years we were bound to come back down to earth at some point.
 
Hurley is one of the most introspective and self critical public figures I have seen.

He is constantly looking at ways to improve himself professionally and personally. Is he the most quickest to change? No. But he consistently adapts and improves over time. His ability to remain honest and genuine with his players and staff will continue to pay dividends in his future.
 
Its simple. Two of your starters have no business being starters. Another is a 3rd option at best who you depend on to be at worst the 2nd and lead you and then you have a second year guy with a ton of talent that cant seem to get it done consistently. Add to that you have basically no depth and its pretty easy to see hard coaching isnt going to fix htis. This team simply isnt as good as we all would like it to be and thats fine. We`ve had an amazing run the last two years we were bound to come back down to earth at some point.
This is an accurate take, and without all the 2nd years fully developing, I don’t even think another point guard in place of AM would have taken us to the promised land. However, entering today’s game, we were only a couple free throws (Villanova 1) and some bad officiating/careless play in the Seton Hall game from being 20-6, 12-3, and probably still ranked.
 
This is an accurate take, and without all the 2nd years fully developing, I don’t even think another point guard in place of AM would have taken us to the promised land. However, entering today’s game, we were only a couple free throws (Villanova 1) and some bad officiating/careless play in the Seton Hall game from being 20-6, 12-3, and probably still ranked.

We downgraded every starting position and almost every backup position from last year to this year. We got worse at the starting PG, SG, SF, PF (Alex got worse) and C. We got worse at the backup PG, SG and SF positions. Mad props to Reed though as we have a clear advantage from last year to this year at the backup C spot.
 
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Nonsense. Nobody on this board has been a bigger Hurley booster over the years than I have. And I think it was a gaffe.
Exposed.

I would love to hear how him saying he had to coach this team differently is a big deal. Lmfaoo.
Some of the fans are softer than they think the team is
 
I wouldn’t call this year a mess. They still have a shot at the tournament. This team could have been a lot better and fell well short of expectations. The coaching staff needs to realize that the same formula might not work every year. Danny needs to remember that his epiphany after New Mexico loss is what lead to changes and a fantastic last 2 years.
I can agree with that
 
Donovan will be in the HOF, also made 2 other Final fours and a bunch of sweet 16s. Hurley would have to have one horrific horrific fall from grace to not be 1st ballot HOF. The Hurley name and back to back chips he's in and he won tournament games with URI. To be on a scale of K or Calhoun we'll see I mean we're talking a top 5 list here.
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Donovan made 1 more Final Four after going back to back. His NBA record is pretty lackluster. His post b2b record was too. If Hurley has Donovan like balance of his career he will be considered a good, not great coach who caught listening in a bottle for 2 years but could never get there again.

Look at it like this. The reason Brady is the GOAT is because he won his first title in 2002 and his last one in 2021. Seven in total. If Mahomes plays 10 more years and never wins another Super Bowl he was a really good quarterback who won 2 Super Bowls but the new GOAT talk will quickly die away and his HOF career will be different depending on what happens over the next decade.
 
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Maybe we should consider Ollie to replace Hurley. Those were such fun times.

It’s a down year and we have a Top 3 class coming in next year. The ship will be righted in time. If you didn’t think this would be a rocky season, you were kidding yourself.
 
Maybe we should consider Ollie to replace Hurley. Those were such fun times.

It’s a down year and we have a Top 3 class coming in next year. The ship will be righted in time. If you didn’t think this would be a rocky season, you were kidding yourself.
I think it’s fair to have blind faith in the staff after the last 2 years. They were saying 3 peat, not a rebuilding year. The roster was littered with former top 100 recruits and top 50 transfers. A lot of guys just didn’t meet the expectations placed on them, which is hard to project.
 
Exposed.

I would love to hear how him saying he had to coach this team differently is a big deal. Lmfaoo.
Some of the fans are softer than they think the team is
I mean listening to a lot of the press conferences and statements he's made recently, if you read between the lines it's pretty clear he knows he didn't put the best roster together. You can afford to miss in a couple spots. They just missed almost everywhere. They'll course correct for next season.
 
Maybe we should consider Ollie to replace Hurley. Those were such fun times.

It’s a down year and we have a Top 3 class coming in next year. The ship will be righted in time. If you didn’t think this would be a rocky season, you were kidding yourself.
Reminder again, Ball, Stewart, Ross, and Singare were part of a top 5 class.

Wont mean anything if we can’t develop them.
 
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I don’t understand how these statements, which he has said before, can be considered motivation. If he can’t coach these guys as tough as he likes, then does he really think publicly criticizing them is the right strategy? Repeating these statements after a huge come from behind win just reeks of questionable leadership.

Occam's Razor, It really is this simple.
Now I have to google occam’s razor.
 
Define hard coaching. Benching your best player when they have a bad game or bad attitude? Sure. Benching a player because they made a couple of mistakes instead of letting them play through them? Sure, maybe. Yelling at players because they aren’t as good as you need them to be? Lol. My kids played competitive sports in high school and college. So I have a soft spot in my heart for psychotic coaches.
 
I get what you are saying, but it would not have been even close to a top five class without Castle.
Well last class had Liam at 10 and Nowell at 33 and it was 11. Castle was 9.

Unless one of these guys is on an NBA draft board coming into the year, I’ll believe it when I see it.
 
Well last class had Liam at 10 and Nowell at 33 and it was 11. Castle was 9.

Unless one of these guys is on an NBA draft board coming into the year, I’ll believe it when I see it.
You miss a lot more than you hit with high school recruiting.
 
You miss a lot more than you hit with high school recruiting.
That’s why hitting on the portal is so critical. Which we obviously did in spades w Tristan and Cam. This year not so much, although I agree w SuperJohn that Reed has been inexplicably misused all year.
 
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Here’s a way too early 2026 mock draft for next year updated February 14th

Solo Ball, Darius Adams, and…. Jayden Ross are on the list. All second rounders.

 
Here’s a way too early 2026 mock draft for next year updated February 14th

Solo Ball, Darius Adams, and…. Jayden Ross are on the list. All second rounders.

How the hell is a guy that can’t get on the court a projected NBA pick?? I just don’t get it.
 
How the hell is a guy that can’t get on the court a projected NBA pick?? I just don’t get it.
Because scouts clearly see an NBA talent. If only someone knew how to coach and get the most out of him.

But why do all that when you can go to the portal and get someone you don’t have to do all that with?
 
That’s why hitting on the portal is so critical. Which we obviously did in spades w Tristan and Cam. This year not so much, although I agree w SuperJohn that Reed has been inexplicably misused all year.
Nowell is one of the very few (like one of two) HS PGs and SGs in the top 50 not contributing this year. At some point it’s just excuses.
Everyone went after Mahaney, so I really can’t blame Hurley for missing the scout there. He was a hot commodity and we won the sweepstakes - similar to the Timberlake outcome for KU in 23/24.

It’s hard to judge Nowell, he’s had a ton of injuries and Hurley panicked after Maui and rode Hassan more stunting his development. Now when he’s out there he looks overwhelmed. Him, Mahaney, Abraham, Ross, Stewart and even Ball are all overwhelmed and keep making the same mistakes - that leaves us with an unplayable bench and no backcourt depth.

It’s gotten so bad in practice Abraham and Ross can’t sniff the floor, Mahaney has his minutes severely cut, and we’re limiting Stewart and Nowell’s exposure because extended court time results in losing. Ball plays half the game and can only jack 3’s.

The staff knows what’s going on, Alex does too which is why he spoke out last week. They’re not happy. Kind of a perfect storm of misses, lack of development, and roster/chemistry issues which I won’t go into.
 
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