Coach Hurley says this year's team can't take "hard" coaching

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Do you know how unbelievable it is that the staff identified, targeted, and got NBA talent Jayden Ross?

We haven't seen a basketball talent like this in decades.

Jayden’s cool, but Cam and Newton were the best guards we’ve ever seen here. He has big shoes to fill.

 

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We've just started getting who we want. McNeeley was late in process once we won our second, Abraham was a 75th kind of recruit, Nowell was anywhere between 35-55. We have upped our brand and are at a new echelon of attraction across HS & portal recruiting, so does that mean we should stick with commitments we made when we couldn't attract how we can now? That is the question and one I'll be curious to see play out this post season. This is easily the most interesting portal season to date for Hurley.

There’s no one in the portal we can get that would be better than our sophomore group if they could actually get developed.

But yeah, if we can’t develop them then go ahead and get some players that another coach already did that job with.

 

[yungdowork]

There’s no one in the portal we can get that would be better than our sophomore group if they could actually get developed.

But yeah, if we can’t develop them then go ahead and get some players that another coach already did that job with.

How can you continue to make this point in every thread with 0 insight into what is happening at practice or behind the scenes? How does it serve the coaches to not develop their players? Wouldn’t that just hurt their ability to land high-profile transfers and recruits? Why would kids choose to come to a school where coaches supposedly don’t develop players?

 

[RuffRuff]

There’s no one in the portal we can get that would be better than our sophomore group if they could actually get developed.

But yeah, if we can’t develop them then go ahead and get some players that another coach already did that job with.

Key word is "if".

I swear you need to become a Marquette or Purdue fan. Then you can see two committed developers with limited rosters who are wearing their few stars out. Marquette looks exhausted, again. Purdue has lost 4 straight, Smith has played 40 minutes in 5 of his last 7, because he has to.

Problem with this 3-4 year development program is you are only gonna have 2-3 seasoned guys good enough to be legit in any given year. Both of these teams came in with zero depth, reliant on 2-3 key guys.

 

[superjohn]

Key word is "if".

I swear you need to become a Marquette or Purdue fan. Then you can see two committed developers with limited rosters who are wearing their few stars out. Marquette looks exhausted, again. Purdue has lost 4 straight, Smith has played 40 minutes in 5 of his last 7, because he has to.

Problem with this 3-4 year development program is you are only gonna have 2-3 seasoned guys good enough to be legit in any given year. Both of these teams came in with zero depth, reliant on 2-3 key guys.

AK is playing 38 minutes per game in Big East play which is pretty ridiculous. It's even more ridiculous when you consider how he's playing.

 

[RuffRuff]

AK is playing 38 minutes per game in Big East play which is pretty ridiculous. It's even more ridiculous when you consider how he's playing.

There is definitely a loyalist comfort binky aspect of Dan Hurley's reportoire' that I've yet to fully understand.

It'd be one thing if you saw AK out there conducting the offense in some way where his presence looked essential, but it's generally looked discombobulated to go along with the brutal shooting. We'd probably be better if we let him sit more and freshen up, his legs have looked heavier than ever lately.

 

[OkaForPrez]

Playong devil's advocate, if the locker room leadership is bad, is it a bad thing to clean it out and bring in some new leaders??

In 2012, a not quite yet ready Shabazz Napier admittedly struggled to fill Kemba’s leadership void. The team struggled and underachieved with a national championship hangover. glad we didn’t run him out of town before 2014.

 

[Excalibur]

There is definitely a loyalist comfort binky aspect of Dan Hurley's reportoire' that I've yet to fully understand.

It'd be one thing if you saw AK out there conducting the offense in some way where his presence looked essential, but it's generally looked discombobulated to go along with the brutal shooting. We'd probably be better if we let him sit more and freshen up, his legs have looked heavier than ever lately.

But then you consider how his potential replacement(s) have played . . .

 

[CTBasketball]

To be honest man I don’t care to go in the weeds on transfer development. If you all want to count players like Newton and Cole go for it.

But a recruit who wants a REAL future in the league will not be moved by saying “hey look what we did to help this transfer get to the g league.” Thats such low hanging fruit that I can’t believe our fans are trying to hang on to based on our history.

The patterns of what this coaching staff hasn’t been able to teach and develop skill wise is obvious. You all can choose to keep your heads in the sand about it as we waste talent though.

Curious, is your name Jayden Ross?

 

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Curious, is your name Jayden Ross?

Y'all say the same thing when I defend Hawkins, Ball, Castle, etc. The same way. Maybe I’m just really rooting for highly talented guys that play for us to be as good as they can be?

 

[PAHusky]

Agree that right now he’s the best we are rolling back. Statistically some of it might be out of circumstance. I’m looking at him from a well rounded perspective, and one that could close the deficiencies that create imbalance out there.

1) poor defender, may have improved a bit, but still far from a reliable one. I saw that many many times against StJ. Defense is really important.

2) rim game is below average - doesn’t finish well or embrace contact. Doesn’t get to the line as much as you’d like. That part reminds me of Hawk, who had trouble finishing.

You’re left with a fairly one dimensional player. That can be fine in the right roster. He gets stronger, maybe some of these things can uptick.

There is also something in the “it” factor with him - he feels totally dog-less. A 100% void of it. Hard to have that in a small 2G. Ok with it in a big spacing 3-4, but I want my back court to be a set of ninjas.

Right with you until that ninja "it factor" nonsense. Solo has plenty of limitations but he's hit some big shots all year is pressure situations. Not sure even what "it" factor is fine for a 3/4 but not a sg but he's got sangfroid and even his defensive lapses aren't really ever an effort issue

 

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Shoutout to Diana Taurasi on her retirement. She was a huge catalyst for women’s basketball and helping grow the game. I know I got into the sport more to watch her play.

In relation to this thread it’s interesting to see Coach Geno say he made sure not to compare those who followed Diana to her. Which makes sense. Feel like Hurley should take note and not compare any future teams to the ones of 2023 and 2024 and do more of what 11x championship coach Geno does (and probably any other all-time great coach).