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I would show no weakness
Go right into dc and try to dunk it play 1
Use forceful moves and speed up and down forcing edey out of comfort zone.
Use a head fake here and there with angles to try and draw fouls to mix it up
On d get good position where straight up size and length bothers edey. They are both not used to opposing size. I’m hoping for dc to be 14-8-3 28 mint and keeping edey under 25 with 50% shooting and minimal assists. Lastly I don’t want this to turn into a big cs big game. Our play vs Purdue is to put incredible ball pressure on smith and to really seek out and guard the 3 while dc integrates the same way he has
 
If either one of them takes a flop to draw a charge, I'm in favor of an ejection.

Let these dogs go at each other.
 
I think it’s going to be much more difficult to get Edey the ball than their guards are used to. He’ll get his points if he gets the ball but it won’t be business as usual. Same for Clingan but we don’t need him to score even 15 to win this game. They NEED Edey to score 20.
 
I think it’s going to be much more difficult to get Edey the ball than their guards are used to. He’ll get his points if he gets the ball but it won’t be business as usual. Same for Clingan but we don’t need him to score even 15 to win this game. They NEED Edey to score 20. 35+
FIFY

I’d be very happy if Edey only scores 20
 
Just spitballin'.

Is it worth trying to have Clingan front Edey? Make thst entry pass a real tight fit to throw over a 7'2" ayee but make it catchable for Edey?

Also, way too lazy to look up. What is standing reach and wing span numbers for these two?
 
Braden Smith will have a tough time against our much larger, physical guards. Whoever he guards will post him up. If Edey helps, Clingan and Johnson will get some easy buckets. May be a huge night for Spencer or Newton. My money is on TNew going off.
 
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Edey's going to get his points. Clingan and Sampson need to box out and not go for head fakes and leave their feet.

So he probably scores 20 plus. As long as our guards beat their guards we should be okay.

We just need a run at the right time.

They can do it.

Go UConn
 
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All DC needs to do is play tough and not get into foul trouble. The perfect scenario is they offset each other. I'll take our lineup over theirs minus Edey.
 
DC is a better defensive 5 over Edey, convincingly
Edey is better offensively but he hasn't played against the two headed monster of DC and SJ
Run him into the ground
 
I’m no coach, but i’ve wondered gor a while what a giant like Clingan attempting to front Edey would look like. I’d imagine it would be incredibly hard getting it over him, and with Steph on Braden Smith most likely, that would toughen the entry pass even more.

I know @husky429 coaches, any thoughts on dabbling in that strategy?
 
I’m no coach, but i’ve wondered gor a while what a giant like Clingan attempting to front Edey would look like. I’d imagine it would be incredibly hard getting it over him, and with Steph on Braden Smith most likely, that would toughen the entry pass even more.

I know @husky429 coaches, any thoughts on dabbling in that strategy?

It's a risk because Edey is bigger and might get position on him. And a double-under from AK or Steph won't be as effective like normal because he's so monstrous.

Icwould imagine that the staff has had the film guys pull up successful strategies vs Edey to game plan from their losses.
 
Yeah. Definitely won't be lobbing over the top to Edey which is a big part of their offense. DC had better grab rebounds. Tip-tap won't cut it tonight.
 
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At this point I do not think that you change what you do. Putting Clingan in an unfamiliar place by fronting Edey does not seem to be in keeping with their character.

An then there are people who say that Clingan and especially Johnson can beat Edey down the floor. Just about every center in Dev 1 can do that as well, but Purdue has prevailed regardless. It's going to be a tough game, but I suspect our guard play advantage will be the difference.
 
Edey's going to get his points. Clingan and Sampson need to box out and not go for head fakes and leave their feet.

So he probably scores 20 plus. As long as our guards beat their guards we should be okay.

We just need a run at the right time.

They can do it.

Go UConn
Edey scores his obligatory 20-25 points and it'll be OK if we clamp down on Smith/Jones/Loyer from 3. Which I 100% think we can do.
 
Both Clingan and Edey haven't really encountered someone the same height as them. It's going to be a great match up to watch. I'm interested to see what happens with Purdue's guards if Clingan can box out Edey consistently.
 
Both Clingan and Edey haven't really encountered someone the same height as them. It's going to be a great match up to watch. I'm interested to see what happens with Purdue's guards if Clingan can box out Edey consistently.
DC has played Kalk twice. Not as big as Edey but still more than Edey has seen
 
Im looking at it differently - it's less about Donovan vs Edey and more about Hurley vs Painter. Our coaches are head and shoulders above the competition and I think we'll see not one, but several different schemes to keep Edey from getting comfortable. Front him, back him - run one of our guys in front of him at his hands, whatever it takes to make him uncomfortable and feeling pressure.
This is not only the game I've been dying to see, but the chess match of the year. Fortunately for us, Hurley, Young, Murray and Moore are the grand masters of the game. Can't wait.
 
Could not agree more 1999GoodSon

What I love about this matchup is how coaching is so integral in this game plan. Both Painter and Hurley will scheme to utilize their big man and neutralize the other.
 
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At this point I do not think that you change what you do. Putting Clingan in an unfamiliar place by fronting Edey does not seem to be in keeping with their character.

An then there are people who say that Clingan and especially Johnson can beat Edey down the floor. Just about every center in Dev 1 can do that as well, but Purdue has prevailed regardless. It's going to be a tough game, but I suspect our guard play advantage will be the difference.
But beating Edey down the floor is only half the story. You also have to be able to get stops on defense in order to get out in transition and beat Edey down the floor. And UConn is one of the few teams who have someone capable of sticking with Edey 1 on 1 and covering their shooters
 
Rewatching the Bama game, refs let Clingan play. Refs swallowed whistle on all the bangbang plays we often see put players on the bench (the Nelson “dunk” comes to mind).

Zebras are being advised from above to keep the twin towers in the game.
 
I don't think DC should try and front Edey, I could see him picking up stupid fouls trying to do that. I think the best approach is for Clingan to stand his ground like DJ did, don't let him get too deep, stays on his feet and vertical when Edey takes a shot, doesn't try to get a block unless its a totally clear opportunity, and block out the rebound. It only partially worked for DJ, he was able to keep him further from the basket than usual, but he simply wasn't tall enough for his outstretched arms to give Edey any pause on his hooks. Edey hasn't seen someone with the height and wingspan of DC yet, and will have to respect Clingan standing behind him on defense. All Clingan should want to do is not give Edey a totally clear and open look at the basket like he's used to. If he make Edey think twice and kick back out or alter even a third of his shots, that's a victory. He shouldn't necessarily be looking to reduce the number of points he scores, rather trying to reduce his efficiency.

On offense, no posting up. Any scoring should come from cuts to the basket, lobs, and offensive put backs.

As long as DC is disciplined, which he has been more recently, I'm actually not overly concerned about foul trouble. Most of the fouls that get called defending Edey are because the usually much smaller center or double/triple teams either swarm him when the ball is low, or even when they stay vertical they only reach up to Edey's elbows or forearms, which either ends up as an actual or assumed/anticipatory foul call. I don't think visually Clingan defending Edey is going to "look" like a foul to the refs in the same way since they are about the same size. Also, DC has developed a reputation as a good defender, so the refs hopefully won't assume he is fouling.

SJ on the other hand.......
 
I thought State did a pretty good job on Edey. He had 20 points, but he also had 5 turnovers. Burns isn't tall, but he couldn't be backed down and it felt like all of Edey's moves were relatively slow. State at times doubled down and used guards to dig on him and that's where the turnovers came. State defended Purdue just fine, they didn't get the win because they couldn't throw the ball in the ocean. Edey was a big factor in that, Burns was neutralized because Edey could hold his own against him in single coverage and then State's guards and forwards were timid driving to the basket and had shots altered by Edey. Turned into a mid range jump shooting contest for State and the shots they normally knock down just didn't fall. Didn't help that the only true PG on the team went down in the early stages of the game.

My point is that Purdue isn't some unbeatable giant. Edey is a tall man, if he gets to his spots and has time to make his move and go to that hook, he's automatic. He clogs the lane on the defense and deters much from happening in there. But if you have guys who can stretch the floor and knock down jumpers then his presence is less of a factor. Clingan moves much better and is taller than Burns, however I'm interested to see if he's able to hold his ground when Edey tries to muscle his way down lower on the block. He had issues doing that against Burns, but Cligan is probably giving up 100 pounds easily to Burns so I dont know what you can take away from that.
 
We can have one starter have an off night. More than one will be a problem. I expect a huge game from Castle. His Melo moment. Win the title and then lottery pick. I'm sure he's super motivated and hope he really attacks tonight.
 
But beating Edey down the floor is only half the story. You also have to be able to get stops on defense in order to get out in transition and beat Edey down the floor. And UConn is one of the few teams who have someone capable of sticking with Edey 1 on 1 and covering their shooters

Like always in March, the key to success is on the defensive end. If we get stops, we win.

Our offense is innovative and brilliant in its own right, but we can't do s--- if we don't get stops.
 
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