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Clingan Expectations - Year 1 and Career

If we're still playing hard high hedge next year, it means Danny didn't learn anything. Even with Whaley that hedge got torched by good teams. Let them shoot from 30+'.

You don't hedge to prevent a contested three, you hedge to prevent your guard from getting blown by. It's supposed to buy time for your guard to get back in front of his man.

Our problem is that our bigs overcommit, essentially turning every screen into a double-team, which leaves whoever set the screen wide open
 
You don't hedge to prevent a contested three, you hedge to prevent your guard from getting blown by. It's supposed to buy time for your guard to get back in front of his man.

Our problem is that our bigs overcommit, essentially turning every screen into a double-team, which leaves whoever set the screen wide open
It become a pick-and-roll for most teams, and the big is usually unguarded. I'm still seeing Kalkbrenner all alone for dunks.
 
Newton 30- Castle 10
Hawkins 15- Transfer 25
Jackson 25- Hawkins 15
Samson 15- Karaban 15- Jackson 5- Springs 5
Sanogo 30- Samson 5- Clingan 5

30- Newton, Hawk, Jackson, Sanogo
25- Transfer
20- Samson
15- Karaban
10- Castle
5- Clingan, Springs
 
It become a pick-and-roll for most teams, and the big is usually unguarded. I'm still seeing Kalkbrenner all alone for dunks.
I’ll admit that Creighton really exploited us that game. Our defense has some rough performances in big games - really big games, at that - but more teams struggled against our defense than took advantage of it. Our opponents shot 42.6% from two against us, which was fourth best in the nation. And we were fourth in the nation in block percentage. So most players didn’t get unguarded pick and rolls like Kalkbrenner. Opponents shot too well from three against us, but we were way above average at preventing three-point attempts in the first place. I think we need to be able to adjust when a team is well-equipped to handle the hard hedge, and we need to play to our personnel’s strengths more, but let’s not pretend we didn’t have awesome defensive performances.
 
I’ll admit that Creighton really exploited us that game. Our defense has some rough performances in big games - really big games, at that - but more teams struggled against our defense than took advantage of it. Our opponents shot 42.6% from two against us, which was fourth best in the nation. And we were fourth in the nation in block percentage. So most players didn’t get unguarded pick and rolls like Kalkbrenner. Opponents shot too well from three against us, but we were way above average at preventing three-point attempts in the first place. I think we need to be able to adjust when a team is well-equipped to handle the hard hedge, and we need to play to our personnel’s strengths more, but let’s not pretend we didn’t have awesome defensive performances.
I can’t imagine how we would have ended up without a top flight defense. I’d be happy with guarding the 3 better, and getting more blocks though.
 
I can’t imagine how we would have ended up without a top flight defense. I’d be happy with guarding the 3 better, and getting more blocks though.
So basically you want to be the best defense ever. Sure, that would be nice.
 
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If DC is averaging less than 10 minutes a game it will be a failure by Hurley. He needs to be in with a lineup that will compliment his talent. And cause problems for the opponent. He is 7'2" and can pass. Keep Adama fresh and use all your players .
 
If DC is averaging less than 10 minutes a game it will be a failure by Hurley. He needs to be in with a lineup that will compliment his talent. And cause problems for the opponent. He is 7'2" and can pass. Keep Adama fresh and use all your players .

Just stop. It won’t be a failure by Hurley if Clingan sucks as a freshman.
 
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Clingan is large presence with looming large question marks for the upcoming season. He's a big body who has shown a great penchant for being able to get buckets, albeit when functioning as Gulliver against a bunch of Lilliputians when roaming the paint for Bristol Central. Can he spell Sanago for five to ten minutes? Will he be shackled to the bench like Springs and Samson? One major red flag is his lack of foot speed which often equates into a basket full of personal fouls. Is he going to be Travis Knight or Jonathon Mandeldove over his career? Having a home grown talent helps in so many different ways. The question is what are the realistic expectations.
Anyone who expects DC to be a major force his freshman year
will be sadly disappointed. His high school team, Bristol Central would never be mistaken for other powerhouses like DeMatha, IMG Prep, or Duncanville, or Oakhill Academy.
Sure, they were ranked either 1 or 2 in Connecticut, but were not even in the top 50 teams of usbasket.com. So let's not start to anoint him as the savior of the program just yet.
 
If DC is averaging less than 10 minutes a game it will be a failure by Hurley. He needs to be in with a lineup that will compliment his talent. And cause problems for the opponent. He is 7'2" and can pass. Keep Adama fresh and use all your players .
Holy cow
 
Newton 30- Castle 10
Hawkins 15- Transfer 25
Jackson 25- Hawkins 15
Samson 15- Karaban 15- Jackson 5- Springs 5
Sanogo 30- Samson 5- Clingan 5

30- Newton, Hawk, Jackson, Sanogo
25- Transfer
20- Samson
15- Karaban
10- Castle
5- Clingan, Springs

If Castle reclasses to only get 10 mins a game we have failed him horribly.
 
Yeah agree about his mindset. The fact people think there’s a chance this kid could be Mandeldove is hilarious. Some can’t see past him playing against small dudes mostly and don’t see the things he can do, at 7’2” mind you. No doubt he will need to improve his quickness especially on D but he will see time, how much is up to him every year. Great to hear he’s slimming down and getting stronger that’s a must.

My question is not just on DC but Dan Hurley. Will you work on defensive schemes so when he needs to play maybe they can play some zone? Hmmmm
He’s his own player as they all are. He isn’t likely to ever have the foot speed and agility Knight had. Offensively already has more skill than Mandeldove or Brown. He can be an impact player, but it will require adapting a scheme around what he can and can’t do. It will be interesting to see if Dan Hurley is willing to do that. I don’t think it will happen, if it does, until Sanogo is gone. So DC’s sophomore year perhaps.
 
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Holy cow
CTInsider article today Hurley says" Adama ran out of gas down the stretch. He was playing 37,38 minutes in these games. We needed him to play that many minutes for us to be in the position we were. He was pretty spent down the stretch. You could see it in the lack of lift he had at the Garden." There is a way to prevent this from happening and hopefully Dan Hurley can adjust his in game coaching to do so.
 
Does anybody else here think we need another back up big guy?
What happens if Sanogo gets hurt and is out for an extended period of time?
Not to mention he is foul prone
I really do feel this way - not to recruit over Clingan but to provide more depth.

The question is really Springs and only Dan Hurley knows what we have there. I guess if we lose Adama, Johnson, or Clingan we rework the offense to play 5 out or we turn to Springs.
 
I can see him playing more minutes against big squads that play multiple bigs. Outside of that I can’t see him getting much time this year.
 
If Castle reclasses to only get 10 mins a game we have failed him horribly.
completely agree. at 6'6 forgot to give him minutes playing off ball...goes to show we only have a spot in the rotation for 1 more good transfer G if castle reclasses.

Newton 30- Castle 10
Hawk 10- Transfer 20- Castle 10
Jackson 25- Hawk 15
Samson 15- Karaban 15- Jackson 5- Springs 5
Sanogo 30- Samson 5- Clingan 5

30- newton, jackson, sanogo
25- hawkins
20- castle, transfer, samson
15- karaban
5- springs, clingan
 
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I expect that this year he will be a 10 minutes a game guy, I really do not want to see him and Sanogo on the court together and I hope that Sanogo plays 30 minutes a game. Would like to see him get more minutes when we are up big in games as well. Going forward we have to have high hopes for him I think. Would imagine with his recruiting ranking, his size and his skill we are hoping he is an all conference player as a junior.
I think DC at high post, and Adama down low on offense might work pretty well. Who knows on defense. It depends on what Danny is willing to do.
 
completely agree. at 6'6 forgot to give him minutes playing off ball...goes to show we only have a spot in the rotation for 1 more good transfer G if castle reclasses.

Newton 30- Castle 10
Hawk 10- Transfer 20- Castle 10
Jackson 25- Hawk 15
Samson 15- Karaban 15- Jackson 5- Springs 5
Sanogo 30- Samson 5- Clingan 5

30- newton, jackson, sanogo
25- hawkins
20- castle, transfer, samson
15- karaban
5- springs, clingan
I think Karaban is going to play the 3 spot as much or more than 4. But yes, if Castle comes back there is just room for one more that actually plays. Hurley mentioned “developmental guys” for a reason, we need bench guys that don‘t expect to play right now.
 
I think Karaban is going to play the 3 spot as much or more than 4. But yes, if Castle comes back there is just room for one more that actually plays. Hurley mentioned “developmental guys” for a reason, we need bench guys that don‘t expect to play right now.
you dont like jackson at PF so are you expecting samson to play 30 mpg? or do you think springs is going to play 10-15 mpg?? those are the only other options. without akok we need karaban at PF more than on the wing, which is fine.

besides, moving karaban to the wing would also mean less PT for the 5 Gs and we gotta sell the transfer G we still need on at least 20 mpg.
 
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I give Dan Hurley a lot of grief on this board but I actually don’t mind him not playing freshmen if he doesn’t think they can help the team now, hurt feelings and transfer portal thoughts be damned.

If Clingan can get up to speed, ideally he’d be a great backup to Sanogo drawing fouls and finishing in the lane. I think the college game will be too fast for him initially though, and I think he’ll hugely benefit quickness and lateral speed wise being in a college s&c program.

If we get anything more than garbage time minutes against the punching bags and 8/9th man in the rotation next year from DC that would be great. I think he’s going to be all conference someday, but awhile down the road. Excited to see the board freak out next year when he’s not playing 15+ a game though
Thank you for the first paragraph here. Not a single person here wanted Gaffney to get more playing time in January when his play was killing us and we lost some close games. Not a single person here wanted Gaffney to get more playing time so he would be ready to take the reigns this year, or even so he wouldn’t transfer out.

The coach gets paid to try to win games. The best players, who are playing, want to win games. I expect Donovan to play this year backup minutes, but he will have to earn them.
 
Thank you for the first paragraph here. Not a single person here wanted Gaffney to get more playing time in January when his play was killing us and we lost some close games. Not a single person here wanted Gaffney to get more playing time so he would be ready to take the reigns this year, or even so he wouldn’t transfer out.
That's simply not true...there were definitely posters who wanted Gaffney to play more, there were even posters who thought he would be UConn's starting point guard next season.
 
I’ll admit that Creighton really exploited us that game. Our defense has some rough performances in big games - really big games, at that - but more teams struggled against our defense than took advantage of it. Our opponents shot 42.6% from two against us, which was fourth best in the nation. And we were fourth in the nation in block percentage. So most players didn’t get unguarded pick and rolls like Kalkbrenner. Opponents shot too well from three against us, but we were way above average at preventing three-point attempts in the first place. I think we need to be able to adjust when a team is well-equipped to handle the hard hedge, and we need to play to our personnel’s strengths more, but let’s not pretend we didn’t have awesome defensive performances.

This. You’d read some of the genuis’s discussions of the high hedge and assume we were an awful defensive team. As if zone, or a switching man to man, or any other defense would work every single time against every single opponent.
 
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