but playing double Big last year did not work...you even coined the phrase "10 in 10" regarding our slow starts. so as bad as our O has been lately it was even worse last year when we had to pair whaley and sanogo, and whaley was much better suited to play PF than either sanogo or clingan is.
Got that right, usually results in a turnover.
Our defense was played under control more. Not a lot of over jumping commitment shown in recent contests. We stayed in front of their offensive players better. Liked to see other guards taking the ball up like Darria/Hawkins and pass more downcourt with better pace. Newton often played off the ball and created baseline opportunities. Maybe this was due to playing a weaker opponent, but the change gave us a new look and better pace instead of the dreadful half-court offense we often play. We were harder to defend against, much less predictable.
Well zis44, we really don't know if the double bigs are wrong as we haven't seen that show. With some limited minutes and a drill or two it might throw fear into the opponent with total rebound domination. The four in/out hasn't worked on some occasions as well.
yeah i dont think the double big lineup would grab enough O rebs and provide enough second chance pts to make up for the fact that we'd have one fewer capable shooter on the floor, and that clogging the paint would make dribble penetration even harder than it already is.
Yes, any chance of a significant post season run has Clingan playing bigger minutes.
Clingan is going to be an NBA first round pick, if not a lottery pick. In my opinion, we should at least try to find a spot for him on the court beyond this 14 minutes a game thing. What makes this even more frustrating to me is, we are losing to teams who are beating us up physically, as Providence and St John’s did. Why not try the double big and make teams game plan against it. Personally, it seems we are trying to match up rather than dictating the match ups as Calhoun usually did.
Yeah, I am inclined to believe that using Donovan and Adama together for extended periods isn’t going to be effective given their skill sets. They are both back to the basket guys and using them both together, just brings another defender into the paint. That said, I have no problem with overlapping them a minute or so, as they come in and out to steal more minutes for Clingan. That would get Donovan an extra four or five minutes right there. I joke about it, but I actually see Adama at the top of the key passing down to Donovan. I think it could be effective.
i dont see the issue here. there's no way in hell sanogo is a 1st round pick and probably not 2nd round either, so he's either going pro in europe or he can transfer. it makes no difference because clingan is going to be the starting C next year.
Wow - I think you are greatly underestimating what Adama Sanogo brings to the table. A 58% FG shooter and 76% FT, whose our leading rebounder. I know his teammates appreciate him. Karaban’s public comments on the radio after the last game show how much they appreciate him.
Right now their overlap is nearly 4 minutes all season. Sanogo averages 26 minutes a game and Donovan 14. We consistently get beat up by physical Big East teams and our response is playing 4 out with only half the out guys being good shooters.
First I’d like to say that Sanogo is a very good college player. He does have limitations however. 58% FG shooter from where he takes his shots is average. If he and Clingan played the same amount of minutes Sanogo would not be our leading rebounder.
Adama is shooting 58%, is our leading rebounder and scorer. LOL - so getting outscored by a grand total of 3 points in our 5 loses isn’t exactly pointing cause at him. You should check some of his teammates, other than Hawkins.
Drastically? How?
yes it definitely is "pointing cause"
To compare Whaley as a player to either Sanogo or Clingan is silly. They are both much higher level players than Whaley. No comparison. This isn’t to disrespect Whaley but he was a meaningful role player not a star.
Yes, the game has change since he left. We have won one NC in those ten years and that was with his players.
Who the heck was the double big. We only had one Big. Whaley isn’t a true Big.
He also had Clingan taking 14 of his minutes per game. So that impacts the numbers. Your argument is silly. He is one of our top 2-3 players.
I think Clingan needs another year of college too. My concern is now that Adama may not be a first round pick and if he stays in college - neither Clingan or Adama are going to be willing to split 40 minutes next year. I think they are both very valuable players and I would like Hurley to figure things out, so we won’t be playing against one next year or watching Donovan get more minutes in the NBA than he got here,
sanogo averaged 27.6 mpg in those 5 games which is above his season average. lack of PT isnt an excuse.
