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I have no idea what the hell you watched the last couple years you would want Gilbert. Kid can’t shoot or distribute. Team got better when he went to bench is as big an indictment on him as a player one should ever need. Pass whatever the hell you have been smoking.
 
scotty0330 said:
I have no idea what the hell you watched the last couple years you would want Gilbert. Kid can’t shoot or distribute. Team got better when he went to bench is as big an indictment on him as a player one should ever need. Pass whatever the hell you have been smoking.
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You basically just described what I’ve seen from Cole.
 
XLCenterFan said:
Lmao at you. As if what we have is vastly superior to either of them. Good thing you’re not a scout.
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One can possibly argue Akinjo, but neither him nor Alterique providing the shooting that would provide a clear upgrade over Cole/Gaffney.

I'm much happier with the duo we have, plus both players can play both guard spots...can't say the same about Akinjo/Alterique. Plus, despite Cole's shooting woes, he was a more efficient shooter at Howard. Even through Cole's cold start, both Akinjo and Alterique still aren't shooting at better clips than Cole currently is.
 
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XLCenterFan said:
You basically just described what I’ve seen from Cole.
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rj cole - 44% eFg and 3.8:2.2 assist-to-turnover

alterique gilbert - 43% eFg and 3.3:1.9 assist-to-turnover

cole has been better already this season (albeit marginally) and lots of people on this board (and, i imagine, on the uconn coaching staff) are expecting his numbers to improve. we already know who alterique is at this level.
 
elmcityboy said:
rj cole - 44% eFg and 3.8:2.2 assist-to-turnover

alterique gilbert - 43% eFg and 3.3:1.9 assist-to-turnover

cole has been better already this season (albeit marginally) and lots of people on this board (and, i imagine, on the uconn coaching staff) are expecting his numbers to improve. we already know who alterique is at this level.
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The difference between those numbers you listed are basically negligible. And I take a more holistic and statistically well-rounded approach to comparing players. Any other stats you want to bring up?
 
XLCenterFan said:
The difference between those numbers you listed are basically negligible. And I take a more holistic and statistically well-rounded approach to comparing players. Any other stats you want to bring up?
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i'm only talking about shooting and distributing because that is what you brought up.

we'll see how this argument looks in a couple of months...
 
XLCenterFan said:
You basically just described what I’ve seen from Cole.
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Gilbert's shooting percentages this season are very similar to last year:
This season
FT 70.3
FG 37.2
3 PT. 29.0
Last Season
FT 67.1
FG 34.0
3PT 31.8

None of which is particularly good. It's best for both Alterique and the UConn program that he transferred. He's gotten to play 8 games so far, versus only 5 for UConn. Happy that he is playing and doing ok, but I don't think he would be the answer at PG.
 
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auror said:
eFG%
Akinjo - 44%
Gilbert - 43%
Vance - 45%
Durham - 49%
MAL - 43%
Matthews - 44%
And Kisunas has taken 3 shots total all season.

D1 average is like 49.5%. High major average is above 50. These guys are bad.
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Yea, they’re simply not good. They’ve had years of opportunity. It was a scouting issue. Now take a look at the guys Hurley and co. targeted heavily but missed on: Kofi, Bones Hyland, Rocket Watts, Cam Thomas. These are some of the better players in cbb. Big upgrade in scouting. Shout out to Tripp.
 
Hey Adrien! said:
After Justin Smith’s injury (out 3-6 weeks for Arkansas), I’d expect Vance Jackson’s minutes to increase...however they’ve been decreasing.

Rough start for him at Arkansas and I don’t see him playing much at all.
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Long connection w/ Mizzou, still follow them so watched the Mizzou-Arkansas game yesterday. Vance got no run which was weird b/c as @Hey Adrien! said Smith is out. Besides the 7'0 195 lb kid, they had no size and they were in foul trouble. There was no report of an injury and the lid was on the rim for the Razorbacks. You would have thought, if there were a scenario ripe for run this would have been it. I know it's not Vance's forte but at those averages he has to pick up his rebounding a bit I suspect to gain Musselman's attention.
 
UcannUconn said:
Yea, they’re simply not good. They’ve had years of opportunity. It was a scouting issue. Now take a look at the guys Hurley and co. targeted heavily but missed on: Kofi, Bones Hyland, Rocket Watts, Cam Thomas. These are some of the better players in cbb. Big upgrade in scouting. Shout out to Tripp.
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Yeah I’ve been thinking the same thing. I’m too lazy to compile the recruits and stats but it definitely seems like this staff is at like over 80% for recuiting targets outplaying their rankings and being some of the best players in college ball.
 
BGesus4 said:
Yeah I’ve been thinking the same thing. I’m too lazy to compile the recruits and stats but it definitely seems like this staff is at like over 80% for recuiting targets outplaying their rankings and being some of the best players in college ball.
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Yep. Even some of the targets who haven’t turned out to be super stars have shown promise or filled a role. Mulcahy, Wahab, etc.
 
UConnStats said:
The Stevie Wonder school of scouting would be proud
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Another day, another recruiting trip.
 
XLCenterFan said:
The difference between those numbers you listed are basically negligible. And I take a more holistic and statistically well-rounded approach to comparing players. Any other stats you want to bring up?
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We HAD Alterique for multiple seasons. We know what he was. And that wasn’t good. Plain and simple. Who cares what he’s doing for Wich St. we know what he did for UConn.

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I think Durham is a big miss. I think he (at this point in his development) would be a better option than Josh + Adama. I always thought that his skillset was fantastic and just needed polish, court time, and maturity. He has gotten that for ND and would be really useful for us right now.

As far as the other guys, agreed, no thanks.
 
scotty0330 said:
I remember this board losing it when some of those folks chose to play elsewhere. Not a guy on that list who I would want over present company.
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Yeah mixed tapes are sports version of fake news.

Here we have Exhibit A:

 
M.S.G. said:
I think Durham is a big miss. I think he (at this point in his development) would be a better option than Josh + Adama. I always thought that his skillset was fantastic and just needed polish, court time, and maturity. He has gotten that for ND and would be really useful for us right now.

As far as the other guys, agreed, no thanks.
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If he was still on UConn he would have graduated already along with Vital. He's only still playing because he got a redshirt year by transferring
 
scotty0330 said:
I have no idea what the hell you watched the last couple years you would want Gilbert. Kid can’t shoot or distribute. Team got better when he went to bench is as big an indictment on him as a player one should ever need. Pass whatever the hell you have been smoking.
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Pass on whatever you were smoking the last 7-8 games because he was the better PG by then and BY FAR a better defender than Gaffney not even close and it will always be something many never look at as part of the game. Cole has been better on the defensive end but he wasn't on last years team. Cole is fine the last 2 minus the missed FTs but let's be honest, he's not exactly shooting up a storm yet but I do believe he will be better. We have what we have and hopefully they both get better because that position will impact us big time at some point. For now I am good with Cole, certainly would rather have AG for Gaff but it's not worth discussing as it's not happening just need to kid to gain some confidence or something soon!
 
elmcityboy said:
freezing cold take. we weren't getting anywhere with gilbert starting last year, and he obviously hasn't improved. even if i didn't believe in cole (i do) i would rather have gaff's upside.
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Gaffs upside? Ok so he shoots it much worst than AG and can't guard a chair but other than that he's been damn good. Please, I like Cole no arguing that he's our guy and he/AG are similar too now, but I think RJ will shoot it better eventually or at least hope so. He's shown some toughness on defense against good players so that's a good thing. The other comparison not close, actually freezing cold take. We should be seeing Gaffs upside sometime soon if there is one. Not at all impressed with his lack of turnovers because it comes form a lack of doing nothing with the ball to create offense.
 
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mauconnfan said:
Pass on whatever you were smoking the last 7-8 games because he was the better PG by then and BY FAR a better defender than Gaffney not even close and it will always be something many never look at as part of the game. Cole has been better on the defensive end but he wasn't on last years team. Cole is fine the last 2 minus the missed FTs but let's be honest, he's not exactly shooting up a storm yet but I do believe he will be better. We have what we have and hopefully they both get better because that position will impact us big time at some point. For now I am good with Cole, certainly would rather have AG for Gaff but it's not worth discussing as it's not happening just need to kid to gain some confidence or something soon!
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You've been provided the stats over and over again about Gilbert's end of the season "improvement" and continue to just completely ignore that he was still not a good player
 
mauconnfan said:
Gaffs upside? Ok so he shoots it much worst than AG and can't guard a chair but other than that he's been damn good. Please, I like Cole no arguing that he's our guy and he/AG are similar too now, but I think RJ will shoot it better eventually or at least hope so. He's shown some toughness on defense against good players so that's a good thing. The other comparison not close, actually freezing cold take. We should be seeing Gaffs upside sometime soon if there is one. Not at all impressed with his lack of turnovers because it comes form a lack of doing nothing with the ball to create offense.
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all i am saying is that sophomore gaffney (5 games into the covid season) has more upside than a fifth year of alterique gilbert. if you don't agree with that, then i can't really help you...
 
Anyone know what Zach Brown has been up to? No news since his arrest in 2017. Have always been hoping he finds an avenue - kid had talent. His situation was always such a shame.
 
krinklecut said:
Anyone know what Zach Brown has been up to? No news since his arrest in 2017. Have always been hoping he finds an avenue - kid had talent. His situation was always such a shame.
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I hope Zach/Jessica is doing well but that recruitment was a microcosm of the KO era.
 
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