Charlie Cream's Latest Bracketology - UCONN # 3 Seed In Greenville # 2

[visitingcock]

Many UConn fans don’t really believe that the NET is THE final word you say. The Huskies had been NET #2 for most of the year even as they were ranked far lower by polls and seeded by Crème. It appears to be convenient to use the NET only for non-UConn teams

No. It is not the “final word” and I do not assert that. However, the NCAA has designated it as the guide and the selection committee and fans should not completely disregard it, The committee’s second reveal dropped UConn too far below the “guide” in my opinion. In that, I am in agreement with UConn fans.

Wins, losses and who you played SHOULD matter. I was stunned when Alexis Phillipou tweeted that the women’s committee doesn’t consider Quad records in seeding - like the men’s committee. UConn has played more Quad One teams than anybody and has a large number of Quad one wins over losses. In my opinion they deserve to be ranked above LSU who played few Quad One teams.

No, the NET is not the be all end all. And no, I do not think the NET rankings of Tennessee or Texas or Oregon etc. are justifiable. I was merely arguing that Tennessee is among the top 68 teams and worthy of a bid ( though a very low seed)

Speaking of bad NET rankings, look at Oklahoma. They are tied with Texas for the Big Ten title. They have the same number of conference wins and losses. They have more non-conference wins. Texas has a NET ranking of 11. Oklahoma is 40. Indeed, Iowa State, Oklahoma state, and Baylor are also ranked ahead of Oklahoma despite trailing them by two or more games in the conference.

I’m on my phone and in my car right now. So this is not the end of my rant. I’ll do a much longer one after this weekend (probably a dedicated thread) about my dissatisfaction with both the NET algorithm and the committee’s abuse of discretion in staring from the use of it,

Yes, UConn should be a 1 seed or, at worst, a two seed.

 

[CTGirl15]

IMO, the only sure #1 seeds at this point are South Carolina and Indiana, no matter what happens the rest of the weekend. I'm having a really hard time looking at Stanford as a #1 seed after their loss, same with Utah. Both teams had chances to prove themselves worthy in the PAC tournament, and both lost. If Stanford is a 1 seed and UConn is a 3 seed, I'll have A LOT of questions for the committee. UConn has probably been ruled out as a 1 seed, but hard not to see them as at least a strong 2 seed if they win the BET and Azzi is back.

LSU is a weird one; based purely on their W-L record, they are an obvious #1, but their OOC schedule was so weak and the SEC is clearly down this year. I think the committee will do anything they can to keep LSU off the 1 line so as not to reward weak OOC play. The only way I think LSU ends up a 1 seed is if they beat South Carolina.

Maryland and Iowa probably each have a chance to grab a 1 seed if they win the B10 tournament.

Either way, there will be a LOT of conversations over the next week before the selection show.

 

[visitingcock]

IMO, the only sure #1 seeds at this point are South Carolina and Indiana, no matter what happens the rest of the weekend. I'm having a really hard time looking at Stanford as a #1 seed after their loss, same with Utah. Both teams had chances to prove themselves worthy in the PAC tournament, and both lost. If Stanford is a 1 seed and UConn is a 3 seed, I'll have A LOT of questions for the committee. UConn has probably been ruled out as a 1 seed, but hard not to see them as at least a strong 2 seed if they win the BET and Azzi is back.

LSU is a weird one; based purely on their W-L record, they are an obvious #1, but their OOC schedule was so weak and the SEC is clearly down this year. I think the committee will do anything they can to keep LSU off the 1 line so as not to reward weak OOC play. The only way I think LSU ends up a 1 seed is if they beat South Carolina.

Maryland and Iowa probably each have a chance to grab a 1 seed if they win the B10 tournament.

Either way, there will be a LOT of conversations over the next week before the selection show.

I don’t see either Maryland or Iowa as a one seed.both have had 2 seed seasons thus far. I might see things differently after tomorrow but I doubt it,

 

[CTGirl15]

I don’t see either Maryland or Iowa as a one seed.both have had 2 seed seasons thus far. I might see things differently after tomorrow but I doubt it,

I think the only way either one gets one is if they win the tournament. Otherwise, both are probably 2 seeds.

 

[Sanka541]

I really don't care what seed we end up as, it is all about the bracket that we have. I would rather be a 3 seed (we shouldn't be) and avoid SC, then be a 2 seed and have SC in elite 8 or something. Interesting to see how much Azzi being back affects our seeding as well.

 

[BRS24]

Snort.

 

[visitingcock]

Snort.

Outstanding and fun game! TOSU press was beautiful!

 

[HuskyNan]

No one, huh? Not even the team that’s #3 in the NET?

 

[MSGRET]

Wonder what his excuse will be for his keeping ND as a 3 seed after today's debacle against L'Ville.

 

[BRS24]

No one, huh? Not even the team that’s #3 in the NET?

My eyes rolled so far back in my head, they did a triple lindy.

 

[HuskyNan]

Crème didn’t mention today’s dominant win over Georgetown or that Azzi was back, just mentioned Caroline appears to be injured again.

Was it something we said, Charlie?

 

[MSGRET]

If UConn wins the Big East with wins like today's against Georgetown, Charlie is going to have a hard time keeping them from being a #1 seed.

 

[hoopsnloops32]

If UConn wins the Big East with wins like today's against Georgetown, Charlie is going to have a hard time keeping them from being a #1 seed.

Charlie will have no trouble keeping them on the three seed line. The actual committee will have trouble keeping them off the one seed line though.

 

[visitingcock]

Crème didn’t mention today’s dominant win over Georgetown or that Azzi was back, just mentioned Caroline appears to be injured again.

Was it something we said, Charlie?

Generally, I roll my eyes at “ he hate us”. It ya know what? He seems to go out of his way where y’all are concerned.

Maybe it does “sell” clicks.

 

[HuskyNan]

 

[SLY63]

All season Charlie has been saying UConn's biggest wins were with Azzi and she was out. Now she's back, they look great, and he will probably say, they haven't looked good in Feb.

 

[BRS24]

LSU's second-half collapse and loss to Tennessee in the SEC semifinals could mean a huge swing in the Tigers' seed. LSU had put itself back in position to make a run at a No. 1 seed. With an impressive win over the Lady Vols and an upset of -- or perhaps just a good, competitive performance against -- South Carolina, the Tigers could have landed on the top line. The door was open; they had gotten help from losses by Maryland, Stanford and Utah. Instead, LSU is now in danger of dropping to a 3-seed. With Ohio State playing for the Big Ten title and UConn getting Azzi Fudd back, the Buckeyes and Huskies are on the verge of catching the Tigers. The Terps and Cardinal had the depth of quality wins on the résumé to withstand early conference tournament defeats. LSU did not, making the loss to Tennessee so consequential and potentially season-changing.

No new entries to the 16, however every 2, 3, and 4 seed were relocated. Our friend CC just won't get off the Stanford train, and I guess quality wins ≠ quality wins. Imagine what his "thoughts" will be today about ... whatever.

Regardless of NET and other rankings, after watching a bunch of games over last few days, my own personal eye test says watch out for UConn, OSU, VA Tech, UCLA, Texas. Be wary of Duke & Notre Dame. If Duke can generate offense, then great, however ND without Miles is starting to show some serious cracks. I wouldn't want to be the selection committee right now, as I think there will be a few instances of mis-seeding, depending on what criteria is used to place teams.

 

[TheGOAT23]

Crème didn’t mention today’s dominant win over Georgetown or that Azzi was back, just mentioned Caroline appears to be injured again.

Was it something we said, Charlie?

Charlie is a BY lurker. Watch your mouths!

 

[Bone Dog]

I put more stock in Megan Gauer’s predictions than in Charlie’s. She’s built quite a reputation for herself. I hope she can make the leap to an even bigger platform soon.

I also agree with @visitingcock about the significance of NET. It’s not the last word on anything. But it is the starting point. The committee protects itself from criticism by pointing to the one shared standard, and that’s the NET. They will have to depart from the NET for various reasons, but I suspect they’d like to have some good reasons (eg other generally accepted measures, like SoS, record in February, etc) in order to avoid accusations of favoritism.