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One of the most remarkable traits of this elite UConn program is the sense of family among all its players, past and present. I would hope the fanbase, like the team and its coach, would rally around these kids and help support whatever the best decision is for their respective futures!

One thing the squid said last night that stuck with me is that these kids, like DD and Boat, were all about the team and did what it took to win. The season is over. Now, its not about the team, its about the individual. We owe that to DD and Boat. If DD gets a 1st round promise, he should go. Either way, like family, we should want whats best for them.
 
I think DD will leave and get drafted between 25-35.

Boat will stay and be a late second rounder after his senior year a la Peyton Siva.
 
intlzncster said:
Average defender? Definitely above average. Wasn't just Boatright out there all tournament playing lock down D. And I think it'll increase as he gets stronger with NBA strength programs.

I know you are thinking how it translates to the NBA. Playing great D is often about mindset, as much as skill, and Shabazz has that.
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He's only average in the NBA. His size is a huge disadvantage against many NBA guards.
 
HuskyHawk said:
He's only average in the NBA. His size is a huge disadvantage against many NBA guards.
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He did ok against 6-6 guards yesterday...they were future NBA Gaurds (I suppose).
 
Bryan Lord said:
He did ok against 6-6 guards yesterday...they were future NBA Gaurds (I suppose).
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Husky Hawk is right. How many NBA caliber guards did Boatright and Napier play against? 5? 10?

In the NBA, they are all NBA caliber and that's not considering that some, who had the skill set, played small forward in college.
 
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I am just enjoying this improbable drive to destiny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As far as either man's chances, Boat will not be drafted due to his size AND the fact that no one has seen him in a leadership role. I think he can get himself to a 2nd rounder next year by working on his long range jumper, finishing his drives and a decision to play selflessly 100% of the time. His defense is awesome and shows real times of brilliance.
DD is another story - there is great pressure from his father to stay in school and graduate. He is laidback and that will leave him unwilling to rock the boat at the home front. Is he NBA ready? Skill wise yes except the handle. Physically? No, he needs a full year of real concentration of adding muscle (he can do it in the pros, yes, but at the cost of watching and not utilizing skills at playing daily). Mentally? That is the biggest question. Seems he plays when he wants to and unless you have the desire to bring it 100% everyday when you are getting paid to do so, your time will be awfully short. Where will he go this year - depending on who comes out- I really don't see him as a 1st rounder now. The league is full of 6"8" - 6'10" guys who can shoot and jump but the biggest difference is size, strength and speed.
I any case I want to thank these two guys as well as all the seniors for staying and giving UConn another banner to fly.
 
I think Boat has to come back to prove he can play PG for a full season. If he can, due to his D, athleticism and toughness I think he'll make the NBA - he comes back.

I can't imagine Daniels not being a first round pick, it just depends how high he can go. If it's middle 1st he has to go, if it'slate first, then maybe he has a decision - I think he probably goes pro.

Either way, love these guys and couldn't be happier for either and what they decide.
 
if DD is a first round pick he should go, I wouldn't be surprised if exceeds scouts expectations in workouts ala Tony Snell last year. We all hear the stories about how DD is a beast in practice but doesn't always put it together in games, this FF run coupled with some strong workouts should probably lock up a spot somewhere in the 20s. Having both him and hopefully Bazz go first round would be even more momentum for the program.
 
tzznandrew said:
I don't think the Harrisons will have strong NBA careers...
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Yea i dont know hence the "I suppose". They probably won't be great nba Gaurds but they'll be in the mix for a few years id say.
 
While losing Daniels would hurt us next year, getting Daniels and Napier drafted in the first round this year would be HUGE for recruiting.
 
There is a graveyard of kids like Daniels who had a chance to come out early and be a first round pick and stuck around too long only to not get drafted.
 
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I wouldn't be opposed to DD going pro because I don't know if his stock will ever be higher. We always knew he had crazy talent, but to see him finally have his coming out party on the biggest stage of all was incredible. He's a guy who could really benefit from the increased practice/training time at the next level, and teams in the late first would jump at his potential. That said, I hope he comes back & solidifies himself as a lottery pick.

Boat, on the other hand, needs to prove that he can run the show. Yeah he could make an NBA roster with his defense and explosiveness, but coming back to school would be the best way for him to "play for that 2nd contract". He's barely started to scratch the surface of his potential in Storrs.
 
Not that ESPN is the end-all authority, but for what it is worth & accounting for the NCAA bump: Bazz is projected as #26 (late 1st round) although curiously the other prospects have their standard height listed but they cut Bazz down to 6'0", DeAndre #39 (mid-2nd round) and they cut him down to 6'7" (Chad Ford's list). Boat is not in the top 100.
 
DD is in a different situation than a lot of the other guys who "stayed too long" in that he has something he can improve upon in another season that is tangible and most definitely holding his draft stock down - his size. 6'7" <200 in the NBA is a tough go. My gut on him right now says he declares but doesn't hire an agent.
 
brasssbonanzaa said:
DD is in a different situation than a lot of the other guys who "stayed too long" in that he has something he can improve upon in another season that is tangible and most definitely holding his draft stock down - his size. 6'7" <200 in the NBA is a tough go. My gut on him right now says he declares but doesn't hire an agent.
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He has to make a decision either way by April 15th. The testing the waters all the way until late May thing is done.
 
johnhuskies95 said:
There is a graveyard of kids like Daniels who had a chance to come out early and be a first round pick and stuck around too long only to not get drafted.
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ie. CJ Fair. The kid has played well each year and his draft status has decreased at the same rate.
 
DD has a huge dilemma. I am not convinced he will get picked in the first round. Yeah, he had 4-5 "level 5" games but also had 5-10 complete no-shows. Those 4-5 games were eye-popping good, the others equally "eye-popping". If he comes back next year and plays the way he did at the end of this year, he easily goes lottery. If he comes back and disappears, he goes undrafted. Tough decision. I still think if he gets a promise in late first round, he should jump on it. Take the 2 year guarantee and prove yourself!
 
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The more I look at the draft lists, the less I feel confident Daniels will go in the first round, but the Fair analogy is a great one.

I liked the trial draft period where kids could try out with NBA teams and get feedback. It was good for the teams and good for the kids. Daniels could have really used a trial period this year.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
The more I look at the draft lists, the less I feel confident Daniels will go in the first round, but the Fair analogy is a great one.

I liked the trial draft period where kids could try out with NBA teams and get feedback. It was good for the teams and good for the kids. Daniels could have really used a trial period this year.
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K helped end that because he thought it was unfair to teams (i.e. coaches) to have that much uncertainty. The uncertainty sucked as a fan, but for the players it was much better, and I'll err on the side of giving the players the benefit.
 
Daniels and Boatright have done more for this program than all but a handful of guys who have ever played here. If they decide that they've conquered college basketball and want to start earning a pay check for their talents, I wouldn't blame them at all. If they decide to return for a title defense, awesome.

Frankly, it is a really tough call, and I'm not sure which way I'd advice them to go if I had any say in the process (which I obviously do not). I doubt either one of them is a first round pick this season, but would they be first round picks next season if they returned? IMO, probably not. But then again, I said the same thing about Bazz last season, and everything clearly worked out for him.

I'd say Boatright has more to gain by returning. He was obviously phenomenal in the tournament, and he was indispensable all year, but sharing the back court with the best PG in American definitely restricted his ability to showcase his talent to some extent. I mean, in the national title game he took six shots - next season, I'm guessing he'll be taking 12-15 shots regularly and hitting them with a high degree of frequency. Additionally, his progressions as a play maker and decision maker towards the end of the year demonstrate how good he can become if given free reign, which he will have next season.

As far as Daniels is concerned, I'm not sure I wouldn't advice him to go. Daniels might be the player we saw in the tournament, or he might be the player we saw during the regular season. I'm not sure, but I bet the scouts are going to be intrigued by the kid who went for 20 & 10 twice in the tournament, proved he could guard bulkier players, and displayed what a match-up problem he can be as a stretch four and pick and pop guy. If he thinks he can improve his stock by returning to Storrs and dominating for a year, great. I wish them both the best regardless.
 
DD should absolutely come back. If he puts it together for the whole year he could go 18 and 10 and be assured of a lotto pick. But he'll be an ancient 23 yrs old by next years draft!!!
 
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BoatShow said:
DD should absolutely come back. If he puts it together for the whole year he could go 18 and 10 and be assured of a lotto pick. But he'll be an ancient 23 yrs old by next years draft!!!
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Perhaps this is selfish but I'm 100% certain boat should come back for the opportunity to be what bazz was this year, one of the stories of this year's team was bazz prepping boat to take over next year.

If Daniels were to stay and work on his confidence and consistency I think he could be a lottery pick next year. When he's been on he's been the best player on this team the last 2 years. However, if a team tells him they'll take him in the lottery this year then we can't fault him for going.
 
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James said:
daniels could be lottery with workouts. he is a legit nba small forward. i said before the game, i would trade a ring for his senior year.
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I said the same thing. The reason for always wanting him back was to hopefully go to a Final Four next year but getting the ring a year early seems like more than a fair trade to me. The greedy side of me wants him back for another!
 
I honestly can't believe so many people in here think DD is a 1st rounder. He has massive potential but has been nothing close to consistent and nobody on this team has been getting enough credit for this run besides Bazz because everyone wants to compare it to 2011 where the media storyline still seems to be that it was Kemba and a bunch of nobodies.
 
PcketknfNiels said:
I honestly can't believe so many people in here think DD is a 1st rounder. He has massive potential but has been nothing close to consistent and nobody on this team has been getting enough credit for this run besides Bazz because everyone wants to compare it to 2011 where the media storyline still seems to be that it was Kemba and a bunch of nobodies.
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Since the NBA draft is based on potential. And you concede that DD "has massive potential." Why don't you think he is a first rounder?
 
Palatine said:
Since the NBA draft is based on potential. And you concede that DD "has massive potential." Why don't you think he is a first rounder?
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Age. If he was 19 he might be a lottery pick.
 
PcketknfNiels said:
I honestly can't believe so many people in here think DD is a 1st rounder. He has massive potential but has been nothing close to consistent and nobody on this team has been getting enough credit for this run besides Bazz because everyone wants to compare it to 2011 where the media storyline still seems to be that it was Kemba and a bunch of nobodies.
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I'd imagine scouts like what they saw in the tourney from DD, on top of the games we've seen the past two years where he lived up to his abilities. If DD were to show out in workouts against comparable SFs, that could easily secure himself a 1st round spot. I keep going back to this comparison, but Tony Snell, another LA kid, was in the same position last year with New Mexico. He played with two other guards who handled the ball in Kendall Williams and Hugh Greenwood so the ball wasn't always in his hands and was used as a spot up shooter, and a couple dribbles and rise up/shooter just like DeAndre(DeAndre has a nice post game too tho). He would always mix in very good games along with games in which he didn't show up, then at the end of last year he had a great MWC tourney, then went pro and was considered a borderline 2nd round pick. Well, dude performed very well in workouts and showed stuff scouts didn't know he had and had a guarantee from the Knicks with their 1st round pick, but the Bulls scooped him up before then.

Now with DD it will be a risk to go pro since there basically isn't a "testing the waters process" anymore, but DD has been described as a workout warrior, and someone who always looks great in practice but doesn't always translate it to games. If DD looks great in workouts and goes 1st round it will be worth it for him instead of coming back, possibly being inconsistent again, or even worse possibly getting injured and having a setback like he had this season with the sprained ankle and back spasms. Then you run the risk of being labeled a 23 year old inconsistent player who will never live up to his potential. That's exactly what happened with LaQuinton Ross this year for Ohio State(minus the age thing), who finally put it together during an Elite 8 run last year, came back to OSU and was the same inconsistent player, got knocked out in the 1st round, and has now decided he might as well go pro now instead of risking going through the motions again next year in his senior year.
 
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