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Chances of both Daniels and Boatright returning next year??

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I estimate that Napier made himself about $6 million, guaranteed, by his play these last 3 weeks.
 
Boat 99.9% back - it's his turn to run a team - as Ollie showed, a great point guard/leader, even if undertalented, can have a long run in the league, but you need all four years in college to develop those leadership and team management skills. I'm sure honest NBA scouts will tell him that too, 5'10" guys make the NBA once every four years, it's a rarity, he shouldn't miss out on the chance to learn from Ollie and the other UConn coaches for another year, that's a golden opportunity.

Daniels 98% NBA - really, he's a lock for the first round and guaranteed money, he has a championship, nothing to prove in college, he can develop as much in the pros as in college. Maybe he enjoys college and is willing to wait a year. But, didn't he do a postgrad prep year? He turns 22 next week, and is the typical age of a college grad. I would be really surprised if he comes back. UConn is in good hands regardless.
 
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I could see DD go mid to late first round based on potential, overall ability, and versatility. He will however, likely spend his first pro year mostly in NBDL like JLamb. He needs to get stronger, but given a chance to cash in millions, let him go get paid. We then start developing the next wave of kids, Facey, Lubin etc.
 
Boat right now is somewhat hidden in Bazz's shadow. He hasn't proved he can step out on his own.

Daniels needs to become the Man. He did help himself this Tourney, but last night in the biggest game he was marginal.

Logically I say no, but I think for DD especially he's a wanted commodity who could excel in the NBA. We'll see.
 
noeynox said:
I could see DD go mid to late first round based on potential, overall ability, and versatility. He will however, likely spend his first pro year mostly in NBDL like JLamb. He needs to get stronger, but given a chance to cash in millions, let him go get paid. We then start developing the next wave of kids, Facey, Lubin etc.
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Until this run he had been underwhelming all year. We saw these same flashes last year, but DD has not put together a season where he was the lead option on his own team. I think Ollie has plenty of connections and can probably tell DD where he would go. If it is 2nd round, he'll be back. Late first, I think he still comes back. I think he can get up to the middle of the first round, late lottery by returning.

I think Boat is a 2nd rounder unless he has a monster year. He does have more athleticism than Napier, faster, better hops. But his shot isn't as good and he hasn't run a team. Needs to be stronger too.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
I am sure both will get the best advice possible before making a decision. I think Daniels is ready to go and Boat would help himself a lot by coming back, but we will see. Either way I wish them both the best.

I never want to see UConn become one of those douchey programs like Duke where the Coach gives his players terrible and selfish advice that is not in the players' best interests.
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Both can still help their draft position by coming back. Dre has proven that, when he's playing hard, he is an NBA player. But he needs to show he can play that way for a full season, and not just a month (because that has been each of the last two years). Boat, at his size, is going to have problems having an NBA career, but to get there he has to show that he can be smart as a 1 all the time. Again, he showed that in the tourney, but he can help himself by doing it for a full season.

That having been said, I wish each of the young men nothing more than making the right decision for them and their futures.
 
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I think Daniels works his way into a top 5 pick after next year. Though he got injured at the beginning of his break out party during the year, Daniels' inconsistency throughout the year pushes him into the second round and his tournament play pulls him back into the late first round. I have no problem with Daniels jumping, He will get a guaranteed contract, but I think his stock rises if he carries UConn next year a la Kevin Durant at Texas and that contract becomes worth a -ton more.
 
B Vogel said:
If it was a weak draft DD should go but I see 2nd round for him this year. He should stay and get a more consistent game and do it all year not just at the end.
Boat has to stay and take the reins as PG for next year. In the end he is really 5'9" or 5'10" and not 6'1 which makes it tough for the NBA
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If all the players leave who are supposed to leave early, than very little chance DD projects as a first round pick. However, if he leaves because he thinks he's ready, than that's fine.
 
If they are first round picks you go without giving it a thought. I have no idea where they are on draft boards but if I'm a betting man Boat returns and DD will go.
 
I want both these guys to have the best opportunity to carve out a career in the next level. Whether that means stay or go I don't know. Either way I will be rooting for them.
 
jorge34 said:
I want both these guys to have the best opportunity to carve out a career in the next level. Whether that means stay or go I don't know. Either way I will be rooting for them.
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Irish Loop said:
I am sure whatever Ollie advises these young men to do, it will be in their own best interest, and that's amazing either way.
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I hate the high road in these discussions.

Unless the Celtics are good (And with all those draft picks, they will be again...and soon), I watch a lot more college basketball. It's just a more entertaining all-around brand of basketball in my opinion (though Brad Stevens coaches the Celts). I prefer to maintain my own entertainment value and the quality of the college game. If that makes me selfish, so be it. These kids shouldn't be listening to my opinion anyway. I have zero connections in the NBA.

That said, I reiterate: I think Daniels is a top 5 draft pick after next year. I do not begrudge any player from seeking a living when they are able. After all, a bird in the hand...but if they can improve their stock exponentially, I think the prudent move is to stay...and entertain me in the process ;).
 
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Folks, couldn't we take just one day of celebration before beginning this stuff? Shame on the OP.
 
HuskyHawk said:
Until this run he had been underwhelming all year. We saw these same flashes last year, but DD has not put together a season where he was the lead option on his own team. I think Ollie has plenty of connections and can probably tell DD where he would go. If it is 2nd round, he'll be back. Late first, I think he still comes back. I think he can get up to the middle of the first round, late lottery by returning.

I think Boat is a 2nd rounder unless he has a monster year. He does have more athleticism than Napier, faster, better hops. But his shot isn't as good and he hasn't run a team. Needs to be stronger too.
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No way Daniels doesn't go in the first round of the NBA. If you are sitting at #20, and DD, a 6'8" wing who can shoot and defend, is sitting on the board, you absolutely take him. Too much potential. Even if you think it's a flyer; People take flyers in the lottery.
 
B Vogel said:
If it was a weak draft DD should go but I see 2nd round for him this year. He should stay and get a more consistent game and do it all year not just at the end.
Boat has to stay and take the reins as PG for next year. In the end he is really 5'9" or 5'10" and not 6'1 which makes it tough for the NBA
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Like I said earlier, if you are sitting at #20-25 and a player with the physical/talent makeup of DD is still on the board, you absolutely take him. Those types aren't a dime a dozen. Motor might be a question mark, but every player has question marks after the first half of the 1st round.
 
If they are lottery picks they should go, if not the should come back. I don't see either of them going in the lottery.....
 
intlzncster said:
No way Daniels doesn't go in the first round of the NBA. If you are sitting at #20, and DD, a 6'8" wing who can shoot and defend, is sitting on the board, you absolutely take him. Too much potential. Even if you think it's a flyer; People take flyers in the lottery.
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I think he would likely go in the 20's. There are a lot of other flyers out there as well. My point was that by coming back and getting stronger, and playing like this all year, he could go into the lower end of the lottery, or higher depending who else comes out.
 
I don't think there is anything Daniels can realistically do to make himself a lottery pick, and he could slide backwards in the draft with an off year next year or if UConn isn't as good.

Boat is a different story. He is athletic enough to get himself into the late lottery or at least Top 20 with a big year at PG in 2015.
 
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To reiterate, I thought Shabazz was a second round or late first round pick prior to the tournament. Now, I think he will go around 20, maybe a little higher. He is a point guard that could be a quality 15-20 mpg back up in the NBA right now. Those are not that easy to find, and it is hard for an underclassman to knock Shabazz down the rankings with a good workout because PG is so dependent on recognition and intelligence.
 
I hope that Shabazz has a serious with these guys about what it means to stick around when your draft stock is questionable and the importance of a degree. It would be a huge move both on and off the court if we could get these guys to graduate.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
To reiterate, I thought Shabazz was a second round or late first round pick prior to the tournament. Now, I think he will go around 20, maybe a little higher. He is a point guard that could be a quality 15-20 mpg back up in the NBA right now. Those are not that easy to find, and it is hard for an underclassman to knock Shabazz down the rankings with a good workout because PG is so dependent on recognition and intelligence.
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His shooting really propels him in that role. He has the handle, is an average defender, is crafty and smart...but he is also instant offense. Those guys always have a role on an NBA bench. He scored against superior athletes while being the focus of the opposing defense, he can definitely score in the NBA while being the 3rd or 4th option.
 
HuskyHawk said:
His shooting really propels him in that role. He has the handle, is an average defender, is crafty and smart...but he is also instant offense. Those guys always have a role on an NBA bench. He scored against superior athletes while being the focus of the opposing defense, he can definitely score in the NBA while being the 3rd or 4th option.
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Average defender? Definitely above average. Wasn't just Boatright out there all tournament playing lock down D. And I think it'll increase as he gets stronger with NBA strength programs.

I know you are thinking how it translates to the NBA. Playing great D is often about mindset, as much as skill, and Shabazz has that.
 
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