OT: Celtics 2020 Offseason

[HuskyHawk]

I could see Danny taking Xavier Tillman. He’s very grant like and could be another guy who can defend modern 5s like bam.

Yes, with a late pick, not 14. Precious is slated to go a little after 14, but he strikes me as a guy who can block shots, shoot and perhaps fit as a modern 5. Given that we played Grant Williams at the 5, Precious is much longer, a better shot blocker and shooter.

Agree with OP that they need shooting and they need paint defense (and offense). I would like a Marcus Smart sized player who can actually score reliably from 3.

 

[the Q]

Yes, with a late pick, not 14. Precious is slated to go a little after 14, but he strikes me as a guy who can block shots, shoot and perhaps fit as a modern 5. Given that we played Grant Williams at the 5, Precious is much longer, a better shot blocker and shooter.

Agree with OP that they need shooting and they need paint defense (and offense). I would like a Marcus Smart sized player who can actually score reliably from 3.

This isn’t the draft for the latter.

Yes I wouldn’t hate Tillman at 30. He’s a contributor who probably won’t be a star but who can defend all over the court.

I’m really all in on a townes deal now.

Langford
Edwards
14
26
Big Swat Bob
Hayward
2022 first

Is probably what I got.

GS and okc can beat it. But will they.

 

[Fatroony5]

Ryan does a good job of breaking down Celtics roster management. The NBA salary cap is really complex but I always find his breakdowns helpful. Give it a read if you haven’t already.
Celtics Offseason Preview Part 1 - The Boring Stuff

 

[bendm]

Ryan does a good job of breaking down Celtics roster management. The NBA salary cap is really complex but I always find his breakdowns helpful. Give it a read if you haven’t already.
Celtics Offseason Preview Part 1 - The Boring Stuff

right off the bat i'm disagreeing with his assumption that the 26th pick will be traded for 2 second rounders...what's the point of that? that's what danny did last year when he could have gotten Brandon Clarke!

 

[the Q]

right off the bat i'm disagreeing with his assumption that the 26th pick will be traded for 2 second rounders...what's the point of that? that's what danny did last year when he could have gotten Brandon Clarke!

yeah that’s one I didn’t like. Maybe if it’s like 32 this year and another pick. Danny turned a pick like 32 (In 2016) into the 14th pick this year. It is possible.

but yeah it’s a weird assumption with some foreign guys out there who are worthy of a one hear stash.

plus no mention of a trade up option? Someone always falls unexpectedly.

 

[MDHuskFan]

This isn’t the draft for the latter.

Yes I wouldn’t hate Tillman at 30. He’s a contributor who probably won’t be a star but who can defend all over the court.

I’m really all in on a townes deal now.

Langford
Edwards
14
26
Big Swat Bob
Hayward
2022 first

Is probably what I got.

GS and okc can beat it. But will they.

You talking about Karl Anthony Towns?!? Minnesota isn’t trading him

 

[the Q]

You talking about Karl Anthony Towns?!? Minnesota isn’t trading him

a lot of chatter he wants out.

would be fun.

It yeah I’m skeptical.

 

[MDHuskFan]

a lot of chatter he wants out.

would be fun.

It yeah I’m skeptical.

25 year old big w/ 4 years left on his contract, doesn’t even have a opt out... respectfully the Celtics dont even remotely have the assets to pull it off, even if they included Brown

 

[Dream Jobbed 2.0]

trader danny could drafted herro instead of langford and brandon clarke instead of grant williams. just sayin. the bench killed them.

Danny loves his 5’ nothing PGs and 6’6” centers too much

 

[HooperScooper]

"I wasn't there [in the bubble]," Ainge said Thursday during his end-of-season conference call following the Celtics' loss to the Miami Heat in the Eastern Conference finals. "I was watching from here, but I could see, even when he was here before the bubble started -- which is why he was shut down a little bit and doing strength training and trying to prepare himself for the playoff run and the intensity of the playoff run -- but he was definitely not himself.

"In fairness to Kemba, he doesn't want to say that. He doesn't say that to our coaches. He doesn't say that to you, the media. He doesn't say that to me. I haven't heard one excuse from him. But watching the games, even the games we won, even the games where he played well, I could tell he wasn't the same physically as he was in October, November, December. So we're going to try to get that Kemba back."

Boston Celtics GM says Kemba Walker was 'definitely not himself' while in NBA bubble

Celtics president Danny Ainge wasn't with the team in the bubble in Orlando but said he could just tell that star guard Kemba Walker "wasn't the same physically as he was in October, November, December."

www.espn.com

 

[the Q]

Danny loves his 5’ nothing PGs and 6’6” centers too much

I could see him taking Tillman at 30 under the right circumstances. He can probably guard the more mobile centers. But needs to provide more spacing. His ceiling is probably a better version of Theis.

There will quite a few 6-1 Senior PGs available at the End of round 1 that trend very well analytically. Including Pritchard and Flynn. Celtics could use a better option at backup pg.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Giannis was considered to have the highest upside in that draft.

I loved Gobert. Elite defender who shot over 70% from the field against pros. Olunyk even being this good has been a shocker.

Giannis was a joke at the time, and people were laughing at the Bucks for burning a first round pick on him. The Hawks were the only other team even looking at him a little. Nobody could have predicted what Giannis became.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Celtics should dangle Tatum and see what they get. I think Tatum is a mediocre defender and not as good offensively as he thinks he is. He is young and has good stats, and the Celtics could convince someone to trade a star for him.

 

[husky429]

Celtics should dangle Tatum and see what they get. I think Tatum is a mediocre defender and not as good offensively as he thinks he is. He is young and has good stats, and the Celtics could convince someone to trade a star for him.

That is absolutely not happening. GMs just a few weeks ago were polled and after Luka, Tatum was the player under 24 that they agreed is the best option to build a team around.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

That is absolutely not happening. GMs just a few weeks ago were polled and after Luka, Tatum was the player under 24 that they agreed is the best option to build a team around.

Like I said. The Celtics could get something really good in return.

 

[husky429]

Like I said. The Celtics could get something really good in return.

You want them to sell the 2nd best young talent in the league for short-term success? I can understand that... but it ain't happening.

 

[Dream Jobbed 2.0]

The Celtics must trade Tatum to have a shot at winning while they still have Tatum and Brown. Got it.

 

[jkfer98]

Gotta get some vets on that bench. Some guys who have been on championship teams.

 

[Dream Jobbed 2.0]

Gotta get some vets on that bench. Some guys who have been on championship teams.

Iguadala would have been real nice. Instead we got the third best player on the late 2000s Pitt teams.

 

[the Q]

That is absolutely not happening. GMs just a few weeks ago were polled and after Luka, Tatum was the player under 24 that they agreed is the best option to build a team around.

i would take both luka and Zion for sure over Tatum.

 

[the Q]

Iguadala would have been real nice. Instead we got the third best player on the late 2000s Pitt teams.

wouldn’t have been able to get kemba is they got iggy.

 

[the Q]

Giannis was a joke at the time, and people were laughing at the Bucks for burning a first round pick on him. The Hawks were the only other team even looking at him a little. Nobody could have predicted what Giannis became.

this has already been proven false. Why do you keep up this fictional propaganda? He was mocked constantly on the top 12-20 picks and they even said on draft night that scouts thought he had the highest upside in the draft, but Also the highest risk.

 

[the Q]

Iguadala would have been real nice. Instead we got the third best player on the late 2000s Pitt teams.

They used all their cap space and mle on Kemba and Kanter.

 

[gtcam]

Like I said. The Celtics could get something really good in return.

Like you said? - according to your description it sounds like the Celtics would be lucky to unload him
You are now talking in circles
What is it?
They would be crazy to get rid of him - Smart, Kemba, Tatum and Brown should be the untouchables - get rid of Hayward and one of the promising young bigs for an experienced quality defensive big
That's where I would start

 

[the Q]

Like you said? - according to your description it sounds like the Celtics would be lucky to unload him
You are now talking in circles
What is it?
They would be crazy to get rid of him - Smart, Kemba, Tatum and Brown should be the untouchables - get rid of Hayward and one of the promising young bigs for an experienced quality defensive big
That's where I would start

Brown would be fine to trade. He’s wildly overrated right now. He could grow into what people say he is now, but the reality and perception are not there yet.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Brown would be fine to trade. He’s wildly overrated right now. He could grow into what people say he is now, but the reality and perception are not there yet.

It's a tough situation. Brown is the best defender of those players aside from Smart. The best two way player. Hayward is the one guy who doesn't abandon the offense, we even saw it against Miami, the ball moved better when he was in. When he was out, Tatum pretended he was Jordan. Tatum can be a problem when he does that.

I'm not sure what the best fix is. They need a mobile big who can defend and presents at least some threat to score inside. They need a deep threat at the SG/Wing spot. Can Langford become that? Have seen no evidence of it. They have pieces but the roster construction isn't ideal.