CD Post-Game

[sparky]

They play hard and give great effortand for that I am proud to be a huge fan of uconn. Losses hurt and it's easy to single out what we coulda shoulda done, but in the final analysis, no one is more upset that the young women who left it out there on the floor.

 

[Vowelguy]

Bottom line....ALL Of this could have been avoided IF the shot clock had recycled like it was suppose to!

? It did.

 

[Vowelguy]

Too much time left for that play. If he really wanted to run that, then wait until 10 seconds and call another timeout.

 

[Wally East]

? It did.

I think the poster might be referring to when Kelly's shot off the front of the rim did not trigger a new shot clock/turning the shot clock off, which led to the stoppage in play and the subsequent inbouding.

 

[Wally East]

Yes I got that. I thought the clock did reset?
The announcers were very confused and said several different things, but ultimately came around to "shot clock is off."

I apologize but I'm not quite sure what you mean then.

 

[Vowelguy]

I apologize but I'm not quite sure what you mean then.

I thought the shotclock did reset. Who said it didnt?

 

[Wally East]

I thought the shotclock did reset. Who said it didnt?

I think Joobie was saying that none of this would've happened if the shot clock was reset properly during the course of play and didn't require play stopping.

 

[Icebear]

I thought the shotclock did reset. Who said it didnt?

The whole reason for the stoppage of play was that the shot clock did not reset when Kelly hit the front of the rim and we rebounded the ball at 24.3 on the game clock and 17 on the shot clock. Once it was stopped Geno then used a TO. The officials then waved off the shot clock but never restored the game clock to 24.3 from the 18.4 where it was stopped.

 

[pap49cba]

The only way a ref will call a foul in the final seconds of a game is if you whack a player in the back of the head with a sledge hammer. And even then, the ref will think about it before calling it. Timeout is what was needed.

This is precisely what is wrong with a large number of sports. The whole "you don't want the refs deciding the game" thing drives me nuts. And the players know it.

 

[UConnCat]

The whole reason for the stoppage of play was that the shot clock did not reset when Kelly hit the front of the rim and we rebounded the ball at 24.3 on the game clock and 17 on the shot clock. Once it was stopped Geno then used a TO. The officials then waved off the shot clock but never restored the game clock to 24.3 from the 18.4 where ir was stopped.

That's an interesting question. The game clock showed 18.4 when the referees stopped play to address the shot clock situation. When after a stoppage of play it's determined that the shot clock should have been reset (and in this case turned off), do the officials put time back on the game clock to when the shot clock should have reset or just leave game clock as is when play was stopped? My read of the rules say that only the shot clock can be adjusted and no time is put back on the game clock.

 

[Icebear]

That's an interesting question. The game clock showed 18.4 when the referees stopped play to address the shot clock situation. When after a stoppage of play it's determined that the shot clock should have been reset (and in this case turned off), do the officials put time back on the game clock to when the shot clock should have reset or just leave game clock as is when play was stopped? My read of the rules say that only the shot clock can be adjusted and no time is put back on the game clock.

Unless it is Rutgers against TN.

 

[MilfordHusky]

Disappointed in first half; didn't guard, didn't run offense. Played tentatively. She thought they outplayed ND for much of second half.

After the steal on the final play, with a foul to give UConn fouled Diggins three times down the court and it wasn't called.

On the final play, the play was for Stewie on the lob. They've been working on the play and thought they had a mis-match. CD thought Stewie could've shot the ball. On not calling a timeout, after first mentioning the difficulty they might have had in-bounding the ball CD suggested at the end of the interview that it might've been a mistake. [My thoughts: in-bounding the ball in the corner would have been very difficult. Maybe call the TO when Kelly still had the ball before it went to KML in the corner.]

Heartbreaking for the kids. Tough loss.

Bria and Kelly want to win so badly sometimes go too fast and try to make difficult plays/passes.

ND has three of top guards in the country better than our guards at certain things. McBride player of the year in the conference.

Interesting that she thinks that McBride is the BE POY.

Did we ever see what the vote was on that?

This is total crap! We foul Skylar three times, and none is called. For three years, she's been getting dozens of calls when there is no contact or when she should be called for one. Total ND bullish!t.

 

[FairView]

When UConn wins the National Championship next month, none of this will seem so important.

 

[bruinbball]

That's an interesting question. The game clock showed 18.4 when the referees stopped play to address the shot clock situation. When after a stoppage of play it's determined that the shot clock should have been reset (and in this case turned off), do the officials put time back on the game clock to when the shot clock should have reset or just leave game clock as is when play was stopped? My read of the rules say that only the shot clock can be adjusted and no time is put back on the game clock.

I had no problem with a few more second running off. .. but the clock stops at 20.3 and then starts again. The officials blew the whistle with over 20.5 seconds left but the clock continued to run. That was the time I thought should have been added back.

 

[winlots]

Interesting that she thinks that McBride is the BE POY.

Did we ever see what the vote was on that?

This is total crap! We foul Skylar three times, and none is called. For three years, she's been getting dozens of calls when there is no contact or when she should be called for one. Total ND bullish!t.

MILFORD: Tell it, Dude!!! You sound like a clone! Last night was the first time I ever swore out loud in a sports venue, and I used the same terms pertaining to the exact same issue. When things were getting read hot and we were mounting one of our comebacks and the refs FINALLY called a charge on Diggins, I opined from the rafters: "It's about time you made the right call on her ref! We been putting up with that crap for four years. Enough of that _ _ _ _. CALL the charges on that princess." Ummmm, well maybe it wasn't exactly princess. But the rest is verbatim. And here's good old Milford, chapter and verse. Stay well.

 

[Icebear]

I had no problem with a few more second running off. .. but the clock stops at 20.3 and then starts again. The officials blew the whistle with over 20.5 seconds left but the clock continued to run. That was the time I thought should have been added back.

Yes, that was the minimum that should have been restored.

 

[Vowelguy]

Yes, that was the minimum that should have been restored.

Among the silliest things ever to be whining about.

 

[Icebear]

Among the silliest things ever to be whining about.

Agreed. But it is something that the officials need to get right.

The worst thing about it is the officials' disrupting the game and stopping play at a moment that is potentially the greatest risk for a defender when a rebound occurs and defensive organization is disrupted and the offense has an opportunity to exploit that moment. Stopping play allows the defense to regather itself and removes the opportunity to attack the disrupted defense and attacking the basket score or get fouled.

 

[Deadrody]

I can't bring myself to watch the end again but a poster on the mens board all but called CD a liar and was positive that UConn made no effort to foul Diggins. I can't bring myself to watch the end again. Is this true? This sort of confusion is a pretty good example of why these close games always go against us.

Well it wouldn't be the first time that a men's fan was 1) wrong, and 2) an ass.

I didn't need to hear CD say they tried to foul, I saw it in real time.

 

[Joobie]

Just to clarify...when Kelly threw the ball up & it hit the front of the rim, the shot clock SHOULD have recycled. If that had happened, as it was SUPPOSE to, there would have been no stoppage of play & no need for UCONN to inbound the ball. The whole sequence of events totally disrupted any kind of offensive flow & all the stuff that happened after that may have been completely different. The refs disrupted the space/time continuum.

 

[Icebear]

Joobie, that is precisely correct.

 

[Vowelguy]

The whole sequence of events totally disrupted any kind of offensive flow & all the stuff that happened after that may have been completely different. The refs disrupted the space/time continuum.

You're joking right? UConn and offensive flow were not synonymous that night.
There was ample time for UConn to re-develop offensive flow if you're really think that was the issue.

The refs do not have 85 eyes. They cannot see every single thing, and I hardly fault them for being unsure if a short shot a hit the rim or not. At least they checked it and got the call right.

The idea that this was a factor in how the game ended is beyond ludicrous.

 

[Icebear]

The is always some movement occurring and thus traceable flow. Sometimes it is turbulent and uneven and others it moves smoothly, sometimes it is like the Snake River rapids, others it is like the lazy Mississippi rolling steadily towards the Gulf. Vector analysis can demonstrate the flow of each. The official's action changed the nature of the flow.

 

[RegisteredUconn]

Among the silliest things ever to be whining about.

It is just such silliness that has 12 silver medals from the 1972 Olympics yet unclaimed. If you attempt to discuss them you will get some of the loudest "whining" you ever heard.

 

[Sonny44]

Thanks for the post Cat! I agree heartbreaking loss for the team, but they came back really well in the 2nd half. And I thought Stewie really stepped up this game. She played tough! Whatever was ailing her mentally the past month seems to have been cured!

I also thought Breanna played great; first time under fire against a really good team. Maybe she's coming of age.
But we choked again at the end, coaches and players both.

 

[UConnCat]

The refs do not have 85 eyes. They cannot see every single thing, and I hardly fault them for being unsure if a short shot a hit the rim or not. At least they checked it and got the call right.

Not that it matters, but for the sake of accuracy, what happened the other night was more an issue with the BE's shot clock operator rather than the officials. Carl Adamec reported that Dee Kantner was positioned under the basket and saw the shot hit the rim and then signaled to the shot clock operator that the shot clock should have recycled. The clock operator didn't see the shot or Kantner's signalling. The officials did check the monitor to make sure the clock time was correct but Kantner's 2 eyes saw the shot hit the rim.

 

[Icebear]

Not that it matters, but for the sake of accuracy, what happened the other night was more an issue with the BE's shot clock operator rather than the officials. Carl Adamec reported that Dee Kantner was positioned under the basket and saw the shot hit the rim and then signaled to the shot clock operator that the shot clock should have recycled. The clock operator didn't see the shot or Kantner's signalling. The officials did check the monitor to make sure the clock time was correct but Kantner's 2 eyes saw the shot hit the rim.

Yes, Cat that is a more accurate account of the events involved.

 

[Joobie]

Joobie, that is precisely correct.

Thanks, Padre...I am rarely precise AND correct all at the same time!