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ZooCougar said:
But if you want your college program to have exposure you absolutely don’t want to be on those.

Would you rather been on ESPN, ESPN 2 or +?

I rest my case.
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We are not comparing ESPN to streaming. We are comparing CBSSN to streaming. I don't think CBSSN offers great exposure. Heck, it is not even rated by Nielsen. Yes, I think it's better than ESPN+, but sports are moving to streaming. 11 P5 teams are being streamed in week 1 and 14 P5 teams are being streamed in week 2. Teams include Michigan, Notre Dame, Oklahoma, Penn State, Tennessee, LSU, TCU, Georgia, Arkansas, Ole Miss, ... Do you think their fans will find the games? Of course they will and that is what the move to streaming sports is all about.
 
ZooCougar said:
www.paramountplus.com

Watch Live Sports Games - Paramount+

Stream live NFL and NCAA games and UEFA, NWSL, Concacaf, Serie A, AFC, and AFA soccer matches on Paramount Plus.
www.paramountplus.com www.paramountplus.com

Just because it’s not packaged as CBSSN doesn’t mean the content isn’t there.



Wrong.

www.paramountplus.com

Watch Live Sports Games - Paramount+

Stream live NFL and NCAA games and UEFA, NWSL, Concacaf, Serie A, AFC, and AFA soccer matches on Paramount Plus.
www.paramountplus.com www.paramountplus.com
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I have Paramount+, and I cannot get CBSSN content on that service. No UConn football for me as I do not have cable or a live TV service.
 
UConnJim said:
We are not comparing ESPN to streaming. We are comparing CBSSN to streaming. I don't think CBSSN offers great exposure. Heck, it is not even rated by Nielsen. Yes, I think it's better than ESPN+, but sports are moving to streaming. 11 P5 teams are being streamed in week 1 and 14 P5 teams are being streamed in week 2. Teams include Michigan, Notre Dame, Oklahoma, Penn State, Tennessee, LSU, TCU, Georgia, Arkansas, Ole Miss, ... Do you think their fans will find the games? Of course they will and that is what the move to streaming sports is all about.
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You will get better exposure on CBSSN. It’s not even close. Get real.

What do you even mean by streaming? I get YTTV and I get it. When I had DirecTV I had it.

Just stop. Moving to Prime would be an exposure disaster.
 
ZooCougar said:
You will get better exposure on CBSSN. It’s not even close. Get real.

What do you even mean by streaming? I get YTTV and I get it. When I had DirecTV I had it.

Just stop. Moving to Prime would be an exposure disaster.
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Instead of attacking every poster, maybe some actual research would help you out?

From https://lsufootball.net/tvschedule.htm (a great source)

P5 games on streaming W1:
East Carolina at Michigan11:00 amPeacock
Mercer at Ole Miss1:00 pmSECN+ Video / $espn+ Video
Colgate at Syracuse2:30 pmVideo: ACCNX / $espn+
Northern Iowa at Iowa State1:00 pm$espn+ Video
Western Carolina at Arkansas3:00 pmVideo: SECN+ Video / $espn+
UT Martin at Georgia5:00 pmVideo: SECN+ Video / $espn+
Alabama A&M at Vanderbilt6:00 pmVideo: SECN+ Video / $espn+
 
UConnJim said:
We are not comparing ESPN to streaming. We are comparing CBSSN to streaming. I don't think CBSSN offers great exposure. Heck, it is not even rated by Nielsen. Yes, I think it's better than ESPN+, but sports are moving to streaming. 11 P5 teams are being streamed in week 1 and 14 P5 teams are being streamed in week 2. Teams include Michigan, Notre Dame, Oklahoma, Penn State, Tennessee, LSU, TCU, Georgia, Arkansas, Ole Miss, ... Do you think their fans will find the games? Of course they will and that is what the move to streaming sports is all about.
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Your point is valid, but these W1/W2 matchups are really the impetus for moving them to streaming. They stink. :)

At some point, and not that far away, a macro event will move a large chunk of content to streaming. RSNs are already going bankrupt, which has forced the ACC to the CW network for their lower-tier stuff. That's probably the last linear move like that.
 
Da_Aisijimo_Gou said:
Fubo vs Hulu Live vs YouTubeTV?

Which one? Why? Relative, current cost/benefit if anyone’s recently compared costs.

CBSSN’s recently disappeared from a quality Malaysian streaming service (not pirating), so I’m looking for that and US Bloomberg. No US CATV since returning to States. Thanks for helpful insights.
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It's all down to what content you need. YTTV just dropped SNY, which will be a problem for UConn WBB fans. Fubo doesn't have TBS/TNT/TruTV, which is a disaster during March Madness.

Compare Channels, Shows, & Sports on Top Live TV Streaming Services is not perfect, but you can type in channels and teams there, and it will guide you.
 
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Forte said:
Free?! lol ... Look at what you pay for satellite tv and compare it to what people pay for youtube tv with an internet subscription. For fiber internet and full 4k streaming on youtube tv with out NFL Sunday ticket, it's 100 a month total. If you add a Sunday ticket and spread it out for the season it's 50$ a month extra so 150$. Direct TV excluding internet after they rope you in with a contract is around 200$ a month. Throw the internet in and you're paying around 300 a month. They just build the NFL Sunday ticket into everyone's price along with the 800 other channels no one wants to watch and scroll through.
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Dang. Directv charges you so much more than me even with internet.
 
@ZooCougar thinks that if we just do the same thing harder, we will be invited to join the ACC. It is the definition of insanity. We don't need more exposure, we need to change the game.
 
pepband99 said:
Instead of attacking every poster, maybe some actual research would help you out?

From https://lsufootball.net/tvschedule.htm (a great source)

P5 games on streaming W1:
East Carolina at Michigan11:00 amPeacock
Mercer at Ole Miss1:00 pmSECN+ Video / $espn+ Video
Colgate at Syracuse2:30 pmVideo: ACCNX / $espn+
Northern Iowa at Iowa State1:00 pm$espn+ Video
Western Carolina at Arkansas3:00 pmVideo: SECN+ Video / $espn+
UT Martin at Georgia5:00 pmVideo: SECN+ Video / $espn+
Alabama A&M at Vanderbilt6:00 pmVideo: SECN+ Video / $espn+
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Yeah those are some pretty huge matchups.
 
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pepband99 said:
Nothing as huge as your dodging this one, internet big man...
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Yeah those matchups with West Carolina Tech will be having everyone signing up. We might run out of bandwidth.
 
ZooCougar said:
Yeah those matchups with West Carolina Tech will be having everyone signing up. We might run out of bandwidth.
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Still dodging the fact you're wrong (again) and won't man up to put it on the line. Sad.
 
ZooCougar said:
Yeah those matchups with West Carolina Tech will be having everyone signing up. We might run out of bandwidth.
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Peacock has 10 college football exclusive games this year. Four have been announced:

ECU @ Michigan
Delaware @ Penn State
Central Michigan @ Notre Dame
Washington @ Michigan State.

Also, there will be 6 other Big 10 games that will be Peacock exclusive including games with Ohio St., Iowa, and Wisconsin.

Peacock has only ~30 million users.
 
UConnJim said:
Peacock has 10 college football exclusive games this year. Four have been announced:

ECU @ Michigan
Delaware @ Penn State
Central Michigan @ Notre Dame
Washington @ Michigan State.

Also, there will be 6 other Big 10 games that will be Peacock exclusive including games with Ohio St., Iowa, and Wisconsin.

Peacock has only ~30 million users.
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Oh man. Better not cancel my Peacock sub. Don’t want to miss that Delaware game.
 
pepband99 said:
Ok internet tough guy. Was going to offer you a beer at a tailgate to settle, but you're clearly "special."

Go ahead and take your place next to Chief in the pantheon of bad doubled-down takes, probably at 11:11AM.
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Oh that hits hard.

Maybe we can put UConn on Freevee and that will put us over the top.
 
winterstres said:
Please enlighten me on finding the UConn game on Paramount Plus. Keep in mind that I do not have a live TV subscription or any cable services, but I do have Paramount Plus. I will not be able to attend any games this year, and if I can get the game that way, it would certainly make my day.
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You'll be waiting a while...
 
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winterstres said:
Please enlighten me on finding the UConn game on Paramount Plus. Keep in mind that I do not have a live TV subscription or any cable services, but I do have Paramount Plus. I will not be able to attend any games this year, and if I can get the game that way, it would certainly make my day.
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My advice is to not waste your money on Paramount and get YouTube Tv instead.
 
noeynox said:
The production on CBSSN was light years better than the crap on ESPN+ or even ESPNU.
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CBSSN games are produced by CBS employees. ESPN+ games are produced by the school. Yes, their productions won’t be as good, but how not as good they are depend entirely on the money the school wants to put into it.

McPeak was just a mistake. Presumably it will be rectified by someone in Black Rock, as that wasn’t a UConn hire — it was a CBS hire.
 
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businesslawyer said:
Idiots. They don’t know that linear television is already dead. All they have to do is read The Boneyard and know which posters to listen to
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Interesting. The coaches wanted the exposure that linear gives you. Makes sense to me.

I have never heard of Midco. Sounds like they have a solid niche though. Those Dakota schools have devoted fanbases.
 
businesslawyer said:
Idiots. They don’t know that linear television is already dead. All they have to do is read The Boneyard and know which posters to listen to
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You are really losing your fastball. It is worth its own thread, but your recent efforts are a shadow of your former posting.

Did you even read the link? If all you really got out of that article was "Linear is the best", then you completely missed the point. Quotes from the Summit League Commissioner:

“The number one priority was expanded linear transmission. We believe that linear transmission still matters today. I’m not suggesting it’s going to matter the same way in five or ten years from now, but today, it does matter. We got a lot of feedback from our constituents, particularly our basketball coaches, in that regard.”
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“Our second priority was revenue. For this particular deal, even beyond a rights fee, there are some opportunities to earn some revenue share, based on subscriber numbers.”
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“Our third priority was building a brand and a better fan experience. In our previous deals, our digital component was pretty fragmented, and our linear distribution was limited.”
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“And then lastly, was protecting local and regional relationships. We have several institutions that have existing local broadcast relationships that are financially important, or important from an exposure perspective.”
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This is a roadmap for the Big East, hopefully with much bigger numbers.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
You are really losing your fastball. It is worth its own thread, but your recent efforts are a shadow of your former posting.

Did you even read the link? If all you really got out of that article was "Linear is the best", then you completely missed the point. Quotes from the Summit League Commissioner:









This is a roadmap for the Big East, hopefully with much bigger numbers.
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...maybe. Let's be clear - this is the summit league. They put revenue 2nd, because their revenue is likely to be next to nothing, in any case. If you're making nothing, it's better to make nothing on a linear network (see UConn Football, ironically)

I would think the BE would prioritize revenue first, but with a view as to how it impacts linear vs. streaming. It would take a moderately bigger number to make streaming only work.
 
pepband99 said:
...maybe. Let's be clear - this is the summit league. They put revenue 2nd, because their revenue is likely to be next to nothing, in any case. If you're making nothing, it's better to make nothing on a linear network (see UConn Football, ironically)

I would think the BE would prioritize revenue first, but with a view as to how it impacts linear vs. streaming. It would take a moderately bigger number to make streaming only work.
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The Summit did a hybrid. Have cake and eat it too. What's not to like if the numbers are right?
 
nelsonmuntz said:
The Summit did a hybrid. Have cake and eat it too. What's not to like if the numbers are right?
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Giving too much credit here.

They found an RSN willing to pay them more to keep the RSN more relevant, and a linear niche channel giving them more slots.

You would see torches and pitchforks here if we leaned into an RSN model these days.
 
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