CBSSPORTS Renewal

[CL82]

I read a post on The Boneyard that said that the renewed CBS SN deal is for $1 million a year, rather than just $500,000. I've never seen it anywhere else. Can anyone confirm that CBS SN doubled our football deal and is now paying us $1 million a year?

 

[pepband99]

Yes. It’s far more crappy. We would get less exposure.

CBS sports is streaming. You can watch the games on Paramount + and CBSSN is on YouTube and Hulu etc.

Did you fall out of the stupid tree and hit every branch?

No, you can't, unless CBS Sports Network recently got added to Paramount Plus - it's been a notable holdout.

This agreement is going to be almost exactly on the dividing line between streaming and linear. CBSSports, on some linear providers, even needs an upsold tier. It's a fringe channel on a dying product, but it's still "better," but probably not for very much longer.

What worries me - production value. We saw bottom-of-the-barrel linear on CBSSN last year, with terrible announcing. We also saw bottom-of-the-barrel streaming for the FIU game. It's easy to see which one ended up better. Would UConn have the capital to make this a good product?

 

[noeynox]

No, you can't, unless CBS Sports Network recently got added to Paramount Plus - it's been a notable holdout.

This agreement is going to be almost exactly on the dividing line between streaming and linear. CBSSports, on some linear providers, even needs an upsold tier. It's a fringe channel on a dying product, but it's still "better," but probably not for very much longer.

What worries me - production value. We saw bottom-of-the-barrel linear on CBSSN last year, with terrible announcing. We also saw bottom-of-the-barrel streaming for the FIU game. It's easy to see which one ended up better. Would UConn have the capital to make this a good product?

The production on CBSSN was light years better than the crap on ESPN+ or even ESPNU.

 

[Sole]

I think with the CBSSN contract expiring uconn will be moving in the direction of producing their own content..(uconn+)..and selling it to either a network or streaming service.. wouldn’t be surprised if it’s SNY or maybe even something more local

 

[huskymedic]

I think with the CBSSN contract expiring uconn will be moving in the direction of producing their own content..(uconn+)..and selling it to either a network or streaming service.. wouldn’t be surprised if it’s SNY or maybe even something more local

From earlier in the thread:

Iirc they have a two year extension option, so we might not hit the market just yet.

They have two two year extension options, through ‘26 and through ‘28

 

[WestCoastHusky]

I think with the CBSSN contract expiring uconn will be moving in the direction of producing their own content..(uconn+)..and selling it to either a network or streaming service.. wouldn’t be surprised if it’s SNY or maybe even something more local

They have to make the games national so people across the country can watch it. Amazon prime is where UConn should focus. UConn needs to get paid more.

 

[ZooCougar]

No, you can't, unless CBS Sports Network recently got added to Paramount Plus - it's been a notable holdout.

This agreement is going to be almost exactly on the dividing line between streaming and linear. CBSSports, on some linear providers, even needs an upsold tier. It's a fringe channel on a dying product, but it's still "better," but probably not for very much longer.

What worries me - production value. We saw bottom-of-the-barrel linear on CBSSN last year, with terrible announcing. We also saw bottom-of-the-barrel streaming for the FIU game. It's easy to see which one ended up better. Would UConn have the capital to make this a good product?

What are you talking about Willis?

 

[ZooCougar]

I think with the CBSSN contract expiring uconn will be moving in the direction of producing their own content..(uconn+)..and selling it to either a network or streaming service.. wouldn’t be surprised if it’s SNY or maybe even something more local

I hope not.

 

[ZooCougar]

They have to make the games national so people across the country can watch it. Amazon prime is where UConn should focus. UConn needs to get paid more.

We’re lucky to be getting a million a year.

Amazon Prime!! I thought we already shit this idea to bits.

We need EXPOSURE more than extra money. We would be a forgotten entity hidden away on Prime.

 

[CL82]

The production on CBSSN was light years better than the crap on ESPN+ or even ESPNU.

Most, if not all, ESPN+ content is school produced, so the quality varies quite a bit. I have to say that Connecticut does a good job on its self produced content that we see on UCONN+.

 

[WestCoastHusky]

We’re lucky to be getting a million a year.

Amazon Prime!! I thought we already this idea to bits.

We need EXPOSURE more than extra money. We would be a forgotten entity hidden away on Prime.

Do you think CBS Sports Network is freely available everywhere? They are not even on basic tier for many providers.

 

[ZooCougar]

Do you think CBS Sports Network is freely available everywhere? They are not even on basic tier for many providers.

I have had them with every provider.

Most people don’t even know they have Prime or if it exists.

 

[UConnJim]

Do you think CBS Sports Network is freely available everywhere? They are not even on basic tier for many providers.

I've seen estimates that CBS Sports Network has around 50 million subscribers (ESPN has ~74 million) which is in line with the ACCN and SECN. Similar to ESPN, CBS Sports Network subscribers have been in a decline due to cord cutting. ESPN lost ~1.2% of the subscribers in Q1 2023 (~5% per year), so I would estimate CBSSN is on the same decline curve.

 

[UConnJim]

I have had them with every provider.

Most people don’t even know they have Prime or if it exists.

I just don't understand your point on Prime Video as I've been watching Prime Video since 2015. Estimates are that Netflix has 8% of all US TV viewing, Prime Video has 3%, and Disney+ has 1.8%. That would mean the average US TV viewer would watch about 40 to 50 hours of Prime Video per year (and growing). Last year, PV spent $16.6 billion on content so somebody must be watching PV.

 

[pepband99]

What are you talking about Willis?

I can show you 10 google results that say the opposite, as well as the description from the actual app, where CBSSN is missing

 

[Waquoit]

What are you talking about Willis?

I know other Yarders that take rando web searches as gospel over eyewitness testimony.

 

[ZooCougar]

I've seen estimates that CBS Sports Network has around 50 million subscribers (ESPN has ~74 million) which is in line with the ACCN and SECN. Similar to ESPN, CBS Sports Network subscribers have been in a decline due to cord cutting. ESPN lost ~1.2% of the subscribers in Q1 2023 (~5% per year), so I would estimate CBSSN is on the same decline curve.

Do you consider subscribing to YouTube TV or Fubo to be cord cutting?

 

[ZooCougar]

I know other Yarders that take rando web searches as gospel over eyewitness testimony.

Watch Live Sports Games - Paramount+

Stream live NFL and NCAA games and UEFA, NWSL, Concacaf, Serie A, AFC, and AFA soccer matches on Paramount Plus.

www.paramountplus.com

Just because it’s not packaged as CBSSN doesn’t mean the content isn’t there.

I can show you 10 google results that say the opposite, as well as the description from the actual app, where CBSSN is missing

Wrong.

Watch Live Sports Games - Paramount+

Stream live NFL and NCAA games and UEFA, NWSL, Concacaf, Serie A, AFC, and AFA soccer matches on Paramount Plus.

www.paramountplus.com

 

[ZooCougar]

I just don't understand your point on Prime Video as I've been watching Prime Video since 2015. Estimates are that Netflix has 8% of all US TV viewing, Prime Video has 3%, and Disney+ has 1.8%. That would mean the average US TV viewer would watch about 40 to 50 hours of Prime Video per year (and growing). Last year, PV spent $16.6 billion on content so somebody must be watching PV.

People go there to watch shows or movies. You don’t surf while you watch the Lord of the Rings and Wheel of Time or the Vanilla Jack Ryan show.

People watch sports on platforms that enable surfing.

Not only that but with betting being more and more popular the ability flip around is even more critical.

I can’t even express how stupid you people sound when you argue for hiding the program on a platform that people don’t use for sports.

We’re so much better off hedging but making a deal with a linear outlet that also has a stake in streaming.

 

[pepband99]

Watch Live Sports Games - Paramount+

Stream live NFL and NCAA games and UEFA, NWSL, Concacaf, Serie A, AFC, and AFA soccer matches on Paramount Plus.

www.paramountplus.com

Just because it’s not packaged as CBSSN doesn’t mean the content isn’t there.



Wrong.

Watch Live Sports Games - Paramount+

Stream live NFL and NCAA games and UEFA, NWSL, Concacaf, Serie A, AFC, and AFA soccer matches on Paramount Plus.

www.paramountplus.com

Awfully sure of yourself for someone who pasted a rando soccer website, and the same page twice, which doesn’t prove anything.

Stream Live TV - Paramount+

Stream and watch live TV shows, sports events, and on demand episodes without any delays in programming with Paramount+

www.paramountplus.com

I would paste the screenshot, but they list the networks. Guess which one isn’t there?

“

LIVE SPORTS​

Stream the NFL on CBS, UEFA Champions League, CBS Sports Golazo Network and more! Miss the game? No sweat. CBS Sports HQ is on 24/7, covering all the highlights.
“

 

[pepband99]

Do you consider subscribing to YouTube TV or Fubo to be cord cutting?

Every “linear” streaming provider is losing subscribers, except YouTube tv.

 

[NowInStorrs]

Every “linear” streaming provider is losing subscribers, except YouTube tv.

You'd think if they're all losing subscribers, one of them might try something new to attract people. It'd be great if you could just get certain bundles of channels: the sports channels, the news channels, the kids channels, the nature/history/educational channels, the Spanish channels, etc. for different prices for those bundles. Or even better, let us pick 5/10/however many channels for a reduced rate.

 

[pepband99]

Ah, I see why you’re confused, @ZooCougar. You’re probably a soccerhead, so you see, Eg, Serie A , which may even have the CBS sports bug on the screen.

This is simple - there are simulcast items between CBSSN and Paramount+, but CBSSN is absolutely not available as a linear channel on Paramount+.

 

[ZooCougar]

Ah, I see why you’re confused, @ZooCougar. You’re probably a soccerhead, so you see, Eg, Serie A , which may even have the CBS sports bug on the screen.

This is simple - there are simulcast items between CBSSN and Paramount+, but CBSSN is absolutely not available as a linear channel on Paramount+.

I’m not confused. Our games can be streamed on Paramount and aggregators like YouTube while on CBSSN.

You guys yet to make a convincing case for marooning us on Prime, which sports fans don’t utilize to watch sports. People who watch sports use another platform. Usually a platform that has CBSSN which has lots of games on it.

This couldn’t be more simple.

 

[UConnJim]

People go there to watch shows or movies. You don’t surf while you watch the Lord of the Rings and Wheel of Time or the Vanilla Jack Ryan show.

People watch sports on platforms that enable surfing.

Not only that but with betting being more and more popular the ability flip around is even more critical.

I can’t even express how stupid you people sound when you argue for hiding the program on a platform that people don’t use for sports.

We’re so much better off hedging but making a deal with a linear outlet that also has a stake in streaming.

I watched Red Sox/Yankees last night on Apple TV+. I watch NFL TNF on Prime Video (and so did 10 million other people every week). I watch UConn football away games when streamed on ESPN+. I watched some UConn hockey on ESPN+. When your team is on, you don't surf.

By the way, we have a 2 TV set up running off one cable box which is becoming more common for people who watch sports. If you are a fantasy football player, you can have Red Zone on one TV and a game on the other. No surfing.

 

[ZooCougar]

Awfully sure of yourself for someone who pasted a rando soccer website, and the same page twice, which doesn’t prove anything.

Stream Live TV - Paramount+

Stream and watch live TV shows, sports events, and on demand episodes without any delays in programming with Paramount+

www.paramountplus.com

I would paste the screenshot, but they list the networks. Guess which one isn’t there?

“

LIVE SPORTS​

Stream the NFL on CBS, UEFA Champions League, CBS Sports Golazo Network and more! Miss the game? No sweat. CBS Sports HQ is on 24/7, covering all the highlights.
“

It doesn’t matter if it’s not there you knucklehead. The channel’s content is.

And it doesn’t matter anyways because anyone who bothers with Paramount probably also has YouTube TV which has CBSSN.

 

[pepband99]

Blah blah blah.
This couldn’t be more simple.

Agreed. You can’t watch UConn games on paramount+ without a linear login.

$20 to husky ticket project to who is wrong?

 

[ZooCougar]

I watched Red Sox/Yankees last night on Apple TV+. I watch NFL TNF on Prime Video (and so did 10 million other people every week). I watch UConn football away games when streamed on ESPN+. I watched some UConn hockey on ESPN+. When your team is on, you don't surf.

By the way, we have a 2 TV set up running off one cable box which is becoming more common for people who watch sports. If you are a fantasy football player, you can have Red Zone on one TV and a game on the other. No surfing.

But if you want your college program to have exposure you absolutely don’t want to be on those.

Would you rather been on ESPN, ESPN 2 or +?

I rest my case.

 

[Da_Aisijimo_Gou]

Fubo vs Hulu Live vs YouTubeTV?

Which one? Why? Relative, current cost/benefit if anyone’s recently compared costs.

CBSSN’s recently disappeared from a quality Malaysian streaming service (not pirating), so I’m looking for that and US Bloomberg. No US CATV since returning to States. Thanks for helpful insights.

 

[ZooCougar]

Fubo vs Hulu Live vs YouTubeTV?

Which one? Why? Relative, current cost/benefit if anyone’s recently compared costs.

CBSSN’s recently disappeared from a quality Malaysian streaming service (not pirating), so I’m looking for that and US Bloomberg. No US CATV since returning to States. Thanks for helpful insights.

I knew those GoJo numbers were bogus.