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CBS Sports: Ranking top 25 college basketball programs of last 25 years

KU was good when I was there (Glen Mason era), which was fun. They had the Orange bowl win some time back. Both teams pretty good right now, I’m liking that. I want to go check out the new stadium in Lawrence.

I sometimes root for KU FB because they have taken a U Buffalo coach twice now, but Leopold is looking like the right choice. Gill was a great choice too but didn't work out right.
 
But the Sox have been way more consistent than UConn, and the Yankees not nearly as consistent as Kansas. I also get nowhere near the overall joy of participation in the MLB playoffs that I get being part of the NCAA tournament.
No they haven't.

The Yankees have missed the playoffs 5 times in the last 25 years, the Red Sox have missed the playoffs 13 times in the past 25 years. The Yankees have lost the World Series 3 times, the Red Sox haven't lost a World Series. The Red Sox have taken advantage of their opportunities more than the Yankees who have been consistently better over the seasons than the Red Sox have. UConn has won even more times than the Red Sox have and they've also been there and not won unlike the Red Sox, again this is in comparison to Kansas. It's actually the best comparison I can make between different sports for this kind of sports discussion and the teams match up perfectly in terms of the teams we follow and root for. For some reason you always hold UConn to a different standard than your other teams, "Kansas and the Red Sox.: I find it really strange and wonder why that is

UConn has clearly been better than Kansas over the past 25 years. The Red Sox have clearly been better than the Yankees have been over the past 25 years but the gap is less there. I'm a UConn and Yankees fan. It's not difficult for me to admit the Red Sox superiority during that time frame. I've alway wondered why that's difficult for you to admit UConn's superiority over Kansas. It makes me question who you are actually a fan of.
 
The 1998-1999 season was 27 seasons ago. So if you take out a Covid year then Michigan State has 1 championship in the last 25 seasons.
Oops my bad. I was wrong but UConn does still have 6 of the last 25 championships - since there was no champion in 2020 or 2013.

Here are the past 25 NCAA men's basketball champions, from the most recent to 1999.
* 2025: Florida
* 2024: UConn
* 2023: UConn
* 2022: Kansas
* 2021: Baylor
* 2020: Tournament canceled due to COVID-19
* 2019: Virginia
* 2018: Villanova
* 2017: North Carolina
* 2016: Villanova
* 2015: Duke
* 2014: UConn
* 2013: Louisville* (Vacated)
* 2012: Kentucky
* 2011: UConn
* 2010: Duke
* 2009: North Carolina
* 2008: Kansas
* 2007: Florida
* 2006: Florida
* 2005: North Carolina
* 2004: UConn
* 2003: Syracuse
* 2002: Maryland
* 2001: Duke
* 2000: Michigan State
* 1999: UConn
*The 2013 championship won by Louisville was later vacated by the NCAA due to rules violations.
 
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Oops my bad. I was wrong but UConn does still have 6 of the last 25 championships - since there was no champion in 2020 or 2013.

Here are the past 25 NCAA men's basketball champions, from the most recent to 1999.
* 2025: Florida
* 2024: UConn
* 2023: UConn
* 2022: Kansas
* 2021: Baylor
* 2020: Tournament canceled due to COVID-19
* 2019: Virginia
* 2018: Villanova
* 2017: North Carolina
* 2016: Villanova
* 2015: Duke
* 2014: UConn
* 2013: Louisville* (Vacated)
* 2012: Kentucky
* 2011: UConn
* 2010: Duke
* 2009: North Carolina
* 2008: Kansas
* 2007: Florida
* 2006: Florida
* 2005: North Carolina
* 2004: UConn
* 2003: Syracuse
* 2002: Maryland
* 2001: Duke
* 2000: Michigan State
* 1999: UConn
*The 2013 championship won by Louisville was later vacated by the NCAA due to rules violations.
Amazing when you look at it that of those 25 non vacated titles, 19 were won by 6 schools. (Uconn, UNC, Duke, Nova, Florida, Kansas).
 
This list is even worse...

Projecting top 25 college basketball programs of next 25 years: Teams set for most long-term success - CBSSports.com Projecting top 25 college basketball programs of next 25 years: Teams set for most long-term success
Flimsy list - first, misses a title with Uconn (5). Really more of a click bait type list than anything with substance as offers so little rationale. If you're going to say the team who is widely seen as the top program currently, as 8, you need to provide some color to the why. If it's league affiliation or not, state the case. Looked up Kyle Boone the other day after he was brought up in another post - guy was a health major at Oklahoma St. Not sure how he landed in this job, but his credentials are a bit amiss.
 
Amazing when you look at it that of those 25 non vacated titles, 19 were won by 6 schools. (Uconn, UNC, Duke, Nova, Florida, Kansas).
That's the reality. So many good teams have failed to pull it off. Like Houston, Gonzaga, Purdue, Alabama zero championships despite a lot of bites at the apple. Baylor finally managed one and then slipped back.
 
Something that hasn't been said yet. I'll swallow the Duke leg humping here....but Kansas ahead of us? Really? Make the case for me there. They're a perennial postseason choke artist. And, for what it's worth, this list puts way too much value on win totals. Okay, Duke has 720 wins, Kansas has 717 and we have 590 over the last 25 years. 720 - 590 / 25 is 5 more wins a year. Who knows how many cupcakes are in those totals? I'd like to see conference wins over 25 years. If the gap was still that big, I'll concede the point.
 
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Kansas ahead of us? Really? Make the case for me there.
I'm fully with you on this but a narrative that has been repeated ad nauseum by many pundits (in my opinion, in part to remove credit from our accomplishments) has been on their consistent high level of achievement in conference regular season play.

In my opinion, if that's your goal, you're aiming at the wrong target.

Without question, performance in the NCAA tournament is the most valuable accomplishment. It can be argued if winning a conference tournament is more valuable than regular season in conference play and I imagine that in any individual season, the former is in direct inverse correlation of the latter.

Kansas has been at a high national level for a considerably longer period of time than us but in terms of overall hardware we are clearly ahead of them.
 
Flimsy list - first, misses a title with Uconn (5). Really more of a click bait type list than anything with substance as offers so little rationale. If you're going to say the team who is widely seen as the top program currently, as 8, you need to provide some color to the why. If it's league affiliation or not, state the case. Looked up Kyle Boone the other day after he was brought up in another post - guy was a health major at Oklahoma St. Not sure how he landed in this job, but his credentials are a bit amiss.
I recall using the term inferiority complex and getting lambasted by some of the same members who are now complaining that this article putting us down at 8 on their list is a joke.

Just kind of validating my comment….no matter what we do we never seem to get mentioned in the same category as Kansas and Duke. And there really is no reason why we should not be considered in the top three of the last 25 years and the upcoming 25 years our track record clearly suggests that as being a reasonable deduction. Number 8 yeah right what a joke.
 
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Something that hasn't been said yet. I'll swallow the Duke leg humping here....but Kansas ahead of us? Really? Make the case for me there. They're a perennial postseason choke artist. And, for what it's worth, this list puts way too much value on win totals. Okay, Duke has 720 wins, Kansas has 717 and we have 590 over the last 25 years. 720 - 590 / 25 is 5 more wins a year. Who knows how many cupcakes are in those totals? I'd like to see conference wins over 25 years. If the gap was still that big, I'll concede the point.
Considering Kansas has 28 league and tournament championships in the 25 years, I'm pretty sure the gap would just be bigger in conference wins.

That's the argument for Kansas over UConn. 2 titles, the same number of final fours in the span, and a bazillion more league titles and wins - 18 MORE league titles in the timeframe.
 
No they haven't.

The Yankees have missed the playoffs 5 times in the last 25 years, the Red Sox have missed the playoffs 13 times in the past 25 years. The Yankees have lost the World Series 3 times, the Red Sox haven't lost a World Series. The Red Sox have taken advantage of their opportunities more than the Yankees who have been consistently better over the seasons than the Red Sox have. UConn has won even more times than the Red Sox have and they've also been there and not won unlike the Red Sox, again this is in comparison to Kansas. It's actually the best comparison I can make between different sports for this kind of sports discussion and the teams match up perfectly in terms of the teams we follow and root for. For some reason you always hold UConn to a different standard than your other teams, "Kansas and the Red Sox.: I find it really strange and wonder why that is

UConn has clearly been better than Kansas over the past 25 years. The Red Sox have clearly been better than the Yankees have been over the past 25 years but the gap is less there. I'm a UConn and Yankees fan. It's not difficult for me to admit the Red Sox superiority during that time frame. I've alway wondered why that's difficult for you to admit UConn's superiority over Kansas. It makes me question who you are actually a fan of.
Your last sentence is silly. I've always been UConn first. 34k posts here and I think maybe 3 ever on the Kansas board.

I don't agree that the Sox have been clearly better over the last 25 years. I don't agree that UConn has been clearly better over the same stretch. I think it's close and arguable in both cases. I think the Yankees situation is colored by the fact that one of those championships was back in 2000, coming off a dominant run, and the other was 15 years ago. Kansas has been much better lately than the Yankees have, and had the best team in the Covid cancelled year as well.
 
Considering Kansas has 28 league and tournament championships in the 25 years, I'm pretty sure the gap would just be bigger in conference wins.

That's the argument for Kansas over UConn. 2 titles, the same number of final fours in the span, and a bazillion more league titles and wins - 18 MORE league titles in the timeframe.
The good news is that UConn is now performing with similar consistency. Not winning the league so much, but having a "down year" be what we saw last year. If Hurley can continue that, it's something even Calhoun didn't quite manage. Nothing will move us up in rankings like this one more than always being a top 20 or so team and always getting into the tournament. This whole "disrespect" thing will be short lived. We should be a 1-2 seed this year I hope. Just keep winning and don't worry about it.
 
Your last sentence is silly. I've always been UConn first. 34k posts here and I think maybe 3 ever on the Kansas board.

I don't agree that the Sox have been clearly better over the last 25 years. I don't agree that UConn has been clearly better over the same stretch. I think it's close and arguable in both cases. I think the Yankees situation is colored by the fact that one of those championships was back in 2000, coming off a dominant run, and the other was 15 years ago. Kansas has been much better lately than the Yankees have, and had the best team in the Covid cancelled year as well.
"The Sox have been way more consistent than UConn." "Kansas has been much better lately than the Yankees have."

The Red Sox have missed the playoffs 5 of the last 6 seasons and had some losing record seasons the past 6 seasons since winning the World Series. In no way is that more consistent than what UConn has done.

You consistently take these swipes at UConn and always defend the honor of your other favorite teams.

Kansas won it once in the last 13 years and has a vacated final four. Yankees were in the World Series last season and have made the playoffs 7 of the past 8 seasons with several ALCS's. Kansas hasn't been much better lately than the Yankees have.
 
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“Nobody gives much credence to the titles won before 1969.” Count me among the nobodies.

UCLA won four titles in five years (‘64, ‘65, ‘67, ‘68 ) with a combined record of 117-3.
How could I forget the early part of the UCLA dynasty? Plus, a poor choice of words.

What I was trying to say was there was nowhere near the attention paid to the NCAA tournament before the broadcasts went national in 1969. It was syndicated before that (beginning in 1963) and didn't have the interest nor the exposure it receives today.

Texas El Paso (its name then) beating Kentucky helped bring interest and then the dominance by UCLA in the late 60's may have been what drove NBC to televise the championship nationally for the first time in 1969.

I actually rooted for UCLA when they were on the 7 year roll, and paid attention to them as well as UConn beginning with the recruitment of Lew Alcindor...........thinking before he committed to UCLA that UConn had a chance!



We were naive during the 60's and 70's, not funding the athletic programs to the extent other schools did, and yet some of us always believed we could be champions someday.
 
Considering Kansas has 28 league and tournament championships in the 25 years, I'm pretty sure the gap would just be bigger in conference wins.

That's the argument for Kansas over UConn. 2 titles, the same number of final fours in the span, and a bazillion more league titles and wins - 18 MORE league titles in the timeframe.
I never paid much attention to the Big12, so help me out. Haven't many of those 18 titles been won in a league that hasn't been all that deep?
 
I never paid much attention to the Big12, so help me out. Haven't many of those 18 titles been won in a league that hasn't been all that deep?
Yup. Hasn't been such an easy road for them since they expanded with Houston & AZ.

  • Baylor
  • Iowa State
  • Kansas
  • Kansas State
  • Oklahoma
  • Oklahoma State
  • TCU
  • Texas
  • Texas Tech
  • West Virginia
 
I never paid much attention to the Big12, so help me out. Haven't many of those 18 titles been won in a league that hasn't been all that deep?
Not really. It's super deep now with Houston and Arizona. But since 2000, OU, UT, OSU, TT, Baylor all made final fours in addition to Kansas. Iowa State had an Elite 8 in 2000 and three Sweet 16s. WVU was in the Big East when it made a final four in 2010.

Not as strong as the old pre-raid Big East but stronger then than the Big East is now. Probably behind the ACC and Big Ten in that era and ahead of the SEC and Pac of that era.
 
How could I forget the early part of the UCLA dynasty? Plus, a poor choice of words.

What I was trying to say was there was nowhere near the attention paid to the NCAA tournament before the broadcasts went national in 1969. It was syndicated before that (beginning in 1963) and didn't have the interest nor the exposure it receives today.

Texas El Paso (its name then) beating Kentucky helped bring interest and then the dominance by UCLA in the late 60's may have been what drove NBC to televise the championship nationally for the first time in 1969.

I actually rooted for UCLA when they were on the 7 year roll, and paid attention to them as well as UConn beginning with the recruitment of Lew Alcindor...........thinking before he committed to UCLA that UConn had a chance!



We were naive during the 60's and 70's, not funding the athletic programs to the extent other schools did, and yet some of us always believed we could be champions someday.

Your mea culpa is appreciated. BTW, it was Texas Western that defeated Kentucky in 1966, before being renamed UTEP.
 
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The article states that UConn has more titles than any other program. I’m sorry but that is THE grand daddy of measurements. It should be emphasized that UConn has TWO more championships in the last 25 years than any other program. TWO!

As for the criteria, yes the author can emphasize whatever he wants (and it is totally fair to say that UConn hasn’t been as consistent year to year as Duke and Kansas) but the domination of the back to back championship tourney runs by UConn really stands out and should earn some extra credit when weighting this to me. And how about Shabazz and the guys really turning it on once they got past St Joe’s? MSU, #1 Fl (for the second time). Those two wins were more impressive than beating another lower seeded team in KY. I’m still amazed at the free throw shooting by the Huskies all tourney!

And yeah, it’s out of range but UConn beating the media darling Dukies in 1999 was so great. 9.5 point underdogs? Hahahaha

And just a note but those posters that tried getting the ‘99 team into the mix for this exercise is wrong. Using a this century criteria is fine. And even when taking out the Covid year the list in this thread when including ‘99 UConn had 26 winners. Too many.
 
The article states that UConn has more titles than any other program. I’m sorry but that is THE grand daddy of measurements. It should be emphasized that UConn has TWO more championships in the last 25 years than any other program. TWO!

As for the criteria, yes the author can emphasize whatever he wants (and it is totally fair to say that UConn hasn’t been as consistent year to year as Duke and Kansas) but the domination of the back to back championship tourney runs by UConn really stands out and should earn some extra credit when weighting this to me. And how about Shabazz and the guys really turning it on once they got past St Joe’s? MSU, #1 Fl (for the second time). Those two wins were more impressive than beating another lower seeded team in KY. I’m still amazed at the free throw shooting by the Huskies all tourney!

And yeah, it’s out of range but UConn beating the media darling Dukies in 1999 was so great. 9.5 point underdogs? Hahahaha

And just a note but those posters that tried getting the ‘99 team into the mix for this exercise is wrong. Using a this century criteria is fine. And even when taking out the Covid year the list in this thread when including ‘99 UConn had 26 winners. Too many.
There is also no champion in 2013.
 
Another version of a Top 25. Write up on UConn says for 5 championships this "feels kinda low" but then points out the total number of wins during this period is lower than others because of some mediocre to crappy years.

Top 10:
1. Duke
2. Kansas
3. UConn
4. North Carolina
5. Michigan State (lol)
6. Kentucky
7. Florida
8. Villanova
9. Syracuse (lol)
10. Gonzaga

Sure. If your goal isn't to win championships. If that IS your goal, then there is only one #1
 
Sure. If your goal isn't to win championships. If that IS your goal, then there is only one #1
So UConn going 14-18 in 2017-18 is the same as going 25-11 and losing in the second round in 2015-16 (and similar results last year). No difference because only titles matter.

I think every season the team has several goals. Winning the league and/or league tournament, making the NCAAs, Getting to the 2nd weekend, getting to a final 4, winning it all. Probably some internal goals about performance and growth of players as well.
 
I don’t really care about the ranking here. Top 3 at minimum is all I really need for it to make sense accounting for our temporary collapse and rise to and return to dominance.

The other article about future success makes less sense, however.
 
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