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Castle reminds me of Marcus Smart

Regarding Castles 3 point shooting, both his 3 point shooting and free throw shooting improved as he worked his way back from the injury which coincided with the competition as well as pressure increasing. It’s a small sample but I’m not really worried he will be a league average shooter at worse and if he is better, than the Jimmy Butler comp looks even better.
 
If Steph can turn into a Jimmy Butler type player, that would be great for the program. Build a reputation on his intensity (but hopefully more winning) that Hurley helped bring out in him.
 
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He is a hard player to compare to others. I think he is a point guard (I could be wrong). Ive said on here that i see a Cade that’s not as advanced on offense but better on defense but that’s definitely not perfect either.
 
watching the cavs yesterday, i feel like the floor for castle is an isaac okoro type. just seems like he is a slam dunk as an nba rotation guy.

obviously, he also the potential to be a star. i like the jimmy butler comp too, but i don't want to put those expectations on any of our guys. people forget how elite jimmy butler has been at various points in his career.
 
Kenny11 said:
He is a hard player to compare to others. I think he is a point guard (I could be wrong). Ive said on here that i see a Cade that’s not as advanced on offense but better on defense but that’s definitely not perfect either.
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I’m with you on his point guard skill set. It’s what makes his projection intriguing.

He’s got a Jimmy Butler type body and mentality but should grow into a great distributor and pick and roll maestro.
 
Mr. French said:
He could be Josh Hart or Marcus Smart tomorrow, my opinion.

I think Jimmy Butler / Jaylen Brown is peak.
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Watching Jaylen Brown today I thought a lot about Castle. So many of his moves around the basket are similar. Jaylen obviously made himself into a much better 3 point shooter than when he arrived, but I can't remember him as a 3 point shooter at Cal. I'm going to guess he shot very similarly to Castle.
 
husky429 said:
The comparison to Jimmy Butler has been thrown around a lot. I see a lot of it, but Castle is actually a pretty bad mid-range shooter and Butler is elite in that range.
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I really hate when people compare a professional finished product to a developing player just coming out of college.
 
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upstater said:
Watching Jaylen Brown today I thought a lot about Castle. So many of his moves around the basket are similar. Jaylen obviously made himself into a much better 3 point shooter than when he arrived, but I can't remember him as a 3 point shooter at Cal. I'm going to guess he shot very similarly to Castle.
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Brown was at 29% compared to Castle at 26%. Castle shot better overall and from the FT line. Castle also had a 2-1 A/TO ratio compared to Brown at 1-1.5 A/TO ratio. Rebounding was similar. Brown scored more by shooting more (from both two annd three) and getting to the FT line more. Similar minutes. Blocks/Steals similar. Castle with fewer fouls.

Should be noted the BE is better than the PAC and Castle missed some OOC games to boost his stats.

Similar ages in college. Yet to see if height and weight are similar. I would guess yes. Brown measured 6’5.25 without shoes 6’6.75 with and 222.8. Castle should be at least 6’5 barefoot. Standing next to Newton he looks at least 2 inches taller and Newton came in at 6’3.5 barefoot. Weight, I think Castle might be 5-10 lbs lighter (or was at end of season).

Solid comp overall though coming out of college.

Edit: I believe they stopped the “with shoes” measurements as it varied so much. Also Brown did no strength/agility drills I could find.
 
nomar said:
Can't tell if you're serious but Smart is a career 32% shooter. Which is not good, especially considering the volume.
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33% from three is basically the same as 50% from two. It is a viable percentage for a player with many other skills.
 
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bikerburt said:
Anyone agree or who else is he like?
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They don’t look alike

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I'm hoping for better than Marcus Smart for Castle. Smart has an alpha-dog mentality without an alpha-dog game. The Celtics got better without him.
 
husky429 said:
The point is Butler was always an elite mod-range shooter.
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Stats go almost far enough back these days.

At Marquette:
His freshman year wasn't tracked.
His sophomore year he shot 33/105 on "Far 2s", which is 31.4%.
His junior year he shot 61/166 on "Far 2s", 36.7%.

Far 2s include anything that isn't a layup, dunk, or tip.

He got to be really good around his 4th year in the NBA.

Castle his freshman year was 23-66, 34.8%. Not great, but nothing to say he can't follow Butler's track.
 
auror said:
Not great, but nothing to say he can't follow Butler's track.
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Except no team is going to have him develop it. But point taken!

If he can develop into Butler with a bag from 3, he's all All-Star.
 
A rich man’s Marcus Smart is very good player which I think he can be. I think his lead guard/combo guard ability is underrated because of the role he played here. His game at Baylor or Kentucky would had people drooling.

A lot of projections have him going to charlotte, which UConn has bad history with lol ,but it’s a new ownership and his fit in the lineup is damn near perfect. I think he is the leader charlotte needs on top of his all round game and ability.
 
EBonz30 said:
I think the comps are actually pretty good- not sure what you are looking for in a comp- lol….
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Uhh players that actually compare … smart ? Butler? Like really those are trash comps not even close
 
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His ceiling is way way higher with an offensive game. I won’t say his name, but what iconic face comes to mind when you think of a player who is an equal defensive and offensive dog type mentality??? And the kid has that player’s mentality too. He is that big an upside with an offensive game.
 
JesusAllen11 said:
A rich man’s Marcus Smart is very good player which I think he can be. I think his lead guard/combo guard ability is underrated because of the role he played here. His game at Baylor or Kentucky would had people drooling.

A lot of projections have him going to charlotte, which UConn has bad history with lol ,but it’s a new ownership and his fit in the lineup is damn near perfect. I think he is the leader charlotte needs on top of his all round game and ability.
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For the love of God, no Charlotte. It's a black hole for basketball talent. I don't care who is sitting in the front office.
 
husky429 said:
For the love of God, no Charlotte. It's a black hole for basketball talent. I don't care who is sitting in the front office.
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They have actually developed talent last few years if you look closely. Lamelo just can’t stay healthy , Miller was a hit , Malik Williams is good, miles bridges is a good player. Adding castle makes sense
 
JesusAllen11 said:
They have actually developed talent last few years if you look closely. Lamelo just can’t stay healthy , Miller was a hit , Malik Williams is good, miles bridges is a good player. Adding castle makes sense
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Rationally, I know this is true. But I can't get my body to not feel like puking when you mention it.
 
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