2020 Recruiting: Cam Thomas Sets OVs (UConn in mix)

[Dooooooomed]

It doesn't matter anymore. The floodgates are open when it comes to payoffs.

Edit: & now with California passing a law allowing players to get endorsements, the sneaker companies will be able to do whatever they want, and worse, the local used car dealership booster is going to start funneling cash to players because college sports are his only joy in life!

California needs all the help it can get when it comes to revenue sports. They have an absurd amount of dumpster fires given the amount of college programs/population/resources. On the bright side, they are fantastic at the non-revenues...I see you Stanford.

 

[Shine33]

Superjohn is right. UW recruited great under Romar. Couldn’t win. Any Bruce Pearl led team always recruits well but he can’t coach. I’m sure there are many examples don’t feel like doing much research.

Anyway point is there are lots of great recruiters out there. Let’s worry more about results on the court and less about recruiting.

Mark Few has said it’s not about recruiting high ranks/talented players it’s about recruiting the right pieces and personalities for your team and culture.

 

[MDHuskFan]

Superjohn is right. UW recruited great under Romar. Couldn’t win. Any Bruce Pearl led team always recruits well but he can’t coach. I’m sure there are many examples don’t feel like doing much research.

Anyway point is there are lots of great recruiters out there. Let’s worry more about results on the court and less about recruiting.

Mark Few has said it’s not about recruiting high ranks/talented players it’s about recruiting the right pieces and personalities for your team and culture.

2 teams with pretty much concrete evidence of buying kids (auburn & Washington)

 

[Chief00]

We probably need to get used to this shift in the paying players dynamic. It appears the biggest violators continue to violate despite getting caught. Very concerning.

Until people actually go to jail, it will continue.

 

[amsterdamjade]

It doesn't matter anymore. The floodgates are open when it comes to payoffs.

Edit: & now with California passing a law allowing players to get endorsements, the sneaker companies will be able to do whatever they want, and worse, the local used car dealership booster is going to start funneling cash to players because college sports are his only joy in life!

The Gov.still has to pass it into law so we will see how much the NCAA will influence his choice.

 

[upstater]

The Gov.still has to pass it into law so we will see how much the NCAA will influence his choice.

He's going to pass it.

If you read between the lines, the only schools complaining are schools like San Diego State who can't compete for players with $$.

The other Pac12 schools are going to suck up the nation's biggest talent. I bet you the Cal. people are thinking, "I dare you to ban the next Zion Williamson from the postseason!!" ESPN won't like that, and the NCAA will instantly cave.

I think the days of college amateur athletics are going to be gone sooner than anyone thinks.

 

[AdamaNation]

We made Cam Reddish's top 5...under KO. It's not enough to be "in the mix". Gotta finish.

Agree. We’re always a lock at the onset. In the mix. Then forgotten. Or come to party late get in the mix. And get forgotten. 5* have always and forever looked at or liked us. Just not hearing , seeing what they want or cashing out the way they deserve. We weren’t built on 5*s. That’s ex’ what makes us great. Stiynice to really get some.

 

[UConnStats]

Agree. We’re always a lock at the onset. In the mix. Then forgotten. Or come to party late get in the mix. And get forgotten. 5* have always and forever looked at or liked us. Just not hearing , seeing what they want or cashing out the way they deserve. We weren’t built on 5*s. That’s ex’ what makes us great. Stiynice to really get some.

Nobody is ever a lock at the onset.

Oklahoma State is hiring Cade Cunningham's family members and Calipari is still visiting him in mid September. I doubt Calipari would just be wasting his time if he didn't have a puncher's chance. My point is that if the kid isn't going to be making his decision for another year or so, getting a crystal ball pick or positive buzz doesn't mean the kid will end up at your school.

 

[UConnJim]

He's going to pass it.

If you read between the lines, the only schools complaining are schools like San Diego State who can't compete for players with $$.

The other Pac12 schools are going to suck up the nation's biggest talent. I bet you the Cal. people are thinking, "I dare you to ban the next Zion Williamson from the postseason!!" ESPN won't like that, and the NCAA will instantly cave.

I think the days of college amateur athletics are going to be gone sooner than anyone thinks.

It's funny how people (not you upstater) ignore that college athletes are getting "paid" today through their scholarship and associated expenses. UConn estimates that the average out of state athlete costs about $86k per year or ~$350k over 4 years. I would assume the costs for a basketball or football athlete are even higher.

Most college athletes will not have the opportunity to make money no matter what the rules are in the future. It makes me wonder, will some schools turn their backs on high level college football or basketball? I'm sure the academics at some schools do not want their basketball and football programs to become pro teams. You can argue that they are already pro teams, but once you start paying the players, you leave no doubt.

 

[Towney007]

I really with people would stop bringing up Memphis as a thing.

They have a hot, young coach with deep NBA and AAU hooks with half the top 20 in their back yard in that given year.

 

[bendm]

I would assume the costs for a basketball or football athlete are even higher...it makes me wonder, will some schools turn their backs on high level college football or basketball?

yeah only about 50% of college bball programs break even... schools that aren't profitable (e.g. UConn) couldn't possibly afford to pay players directly.... the money would have to come from private 3rd parties via endorsements (as contemplated by Cali's Fair PLay Act) but i think that would still completely ruin the competitive landscape.

imagine what giant public schools like UK could do with all their boosters.... every 5* recruit gets his name on a local car-wash and car dealership (beamer, benz, or bentley included). every 4* recruit gets a laundromat which he can use to wash his dirty money from under-the-table deals with less savory businesses. and so on and so forth

small private schools would be toast- looking at you big east

PS- i know that's not how money is laundered

 

[upstater]

It's funny how people (not you upstater) ignore that college athletes are getting "paid" today through their scholarship and associated expenses. UConn estimates that the average out of state athlete costs about $86k per year or ~$350k over 4 years. I would assume the costs for a basketball or football athlete are even higher.

Most college athletes will not have the opportunity to make money no matter what the rules are in the future. It makes me wonder, will some schools turn their backs on high level college football or basketball? I'm sure the academics at some schools do not want their basketball and football programs to become pro teams. You can argue that they are already pro teams, but once you start paying the players, you leave no doubt.

A lot of P5 schools are taking a bath on big time sports. There is no doubt. A certain level of losses should probably be acceptable for the sake of campus culture ($10-15m??). But at a time of resource scarcity across universities, and when students are going into debt, when they will be servicing those student "sports" fees for the next 25 years, it becomes increasingly hard to justify.

That being said, this is outside money. So I have really no objection to it. If they can hold up the used car dealer/booster for tens of thousands, more power to them. He's the sucker, not them.

If it destroys college sports to have players endorsed by boosters, then that's the road they chose to go down. Will fans like me turn away? Yes. Am I in the minority? Don't know.

But I've turned away from lifelong passions in the past (baseball) so it's not like I'm coming off a heroin addiction.

 

[huskymedic]

The Gov.still has to pass it into law so we will see how much the NCAA will influence his choice.

Decent read on the subject: California is gunning for the NCAA. So what happens next?

 

[uchusky32]

Decent read on the subject: California is gunning for the NCAA. So what happens next?

Someone or some entity should be gunnig for them. Not sure it should be Cali but...

 

[Scrutineer]

Decent read on the subject: California is gunning for the NCAA. So what happens next?

This statement from the NCAA near the beginning: "If the bill becomes law and California’s 58 NCAA schools are compelled to allow an unrestricted name, image and likeness scheme, it would erase the critical distinction between college and professional athletics and, because it gives those schools an unfair recruiting advantage, would result in them eventually being unable to compete in NCAA competitions."

Then the writer gives various scenarios that are more realistic, none of which bode well for college sports. Money seems to ruin everything and it's accelerating. So glad we had some glory days because it doesn't look promising for us if this law becomes the law of the land.

 

[uconnbill]

California will set the stage for a huge fight, which will be interesting to see what states come to help the NCAA and what states go after them. This is going to be ugly

 

[Fishy]

This one has drifted, so time for a lock.