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2023 Recruiting: Cam Spencer

Vecenie absolutely loves UConn, mostly because he adores the offensive sets Hurley runs, and he is a huge fan of our style of play on both ends. He is well respected and not a bad guy to be tweeting sweet nothings about the Huskies.
Bouk was a great recruiting pitch regarding helping an under recruited kid become a lotto pick. (And got that “can they get you to the league” question answered)

Reese was a great pitch for transfers. (Relative unknown to nba selection)

Can’t think of a kid though that they’ll be able to show for years as it relates to “this is how we’ll use you as a shooter/off all” than Hawk. Was a masterful job
 
We're a flagship state university with decades of history in the sports and fans all over the country. We likely have hetter NIL than almoat every D1 school in the country. We aren't Kansas or UNC, but we have A LOT of money behind this program.
I sincerely hope you are right.
 
Bouk was a great recruiting pitch regarding helping an under recruited kid become a lotto pick. (And got that “can they get you to the league” question answered)

Reese was a great pitch for transfers. (Relative unknown to nba selection)

Can’t think of a kid though that they’ll be able to show for years as it relates to “this is how we’ll use you as a shooter/off all” than Hawk. Was a master
In addition to your excellent bullet points--Although not related to NBA (so far).. Maximizing portal recruits within team structure (Tristen/Naheim/Joey/Hassan)
Thought staff did a great job with fit and utilization last year..
 
I think the people who are down on Spencer need to remember that yes, he’s coming in here to be a starter, but he’s not going to be our primary scoring option. I’m guessing he may be our 4th or 5th scoring option behind Karaban, Clingan, Castle and Newton.

He seems like a perfect fit for what we need, and I trust Hurley to coach up guys on defense. What they did with Joey C is all I need to see to have that confidence. And Spencer is better than Joey C.

Wouldn't be shocked if he came in and challenged for the 2nd or 3rd highest ppg on the team. He put up 13 ppg for a should have been NCAAT Big 10 team. By contrast Joey C came in off a 9 ppg season at San Diego.

People are sleeping on this guy - having watched a decent amount of SUNJ games - he hit a lot of big shots and can play.
 
We have it verified that Timberlake was looking for 500k and we couldn't match Kansas. I don't think we'll get specific numbers past that.

Right now, NIL is the wild west, and we haven't reached an equilibrium for player "value." I doubt someone like Timberlake would get 500k in 10 years. Give it a few seasons, and I think the baseline for what you need to offer kids will be more clear.
$500k is what he ended up getting?? Sheesh, the number floating around before was $250k
 
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It was 250k, actually. I may be thinking of someone else. One of the Miami boys, maybe?
Well last year Pack transferred to Miami for $800k (2 year deal), then Wong got pissed and that whole story blew up, so they ended up giving him $400k/yr as well. Maybe it was Jesse Edwards to WVU? Didn't he have some ridiculous NIL $?
 
It was 250k, actually. I may be thinking of someone else. One of the Miami boys, maybe?
Plus a Challenger (possibly Hellcat). People think the kids were gifted whole cars....nah. They likely get a lease for the one year they will be there, probably have to do a commercial for the local dealership, or show up at some marketing events.

There will be an interesting angle on all of this from the IRS. If the student is paid in case or merchandise, and renders a service, that's income. There will be a 1099. If the amount is disproportionate to what was provided, that's a gift, and the gifter could be on the hook for gift taxes. I doubt Congress steps in, but existing laws and regulations could still put a damper on some of the most egregious behavior.
 
Goodman and Dauster talked about how we don’t have a “real” NIL program yet but seemed confident that we would soon. What @Chief00 is doing is awesome and is going to create memories and build camaraderie but at the end of the day, that is not the same as cutting a kid a check for 300k for some IG promos.

We need both. ESPECIALLY what chief is doing. We dont have the plethora of idiots here overpaying for hacks. We just dont. We have some super successful people helping in so many ways, but we arent going to be Miami or Kansas on that front just cutting obscene checks for nothing. What's scary is what Miami paid Wong and Pack got last year to actually have a team that could make it to FF and get run off the floor by us. was a huge multiple factor of what our entire squad got last year. Justice prevailed but in the tournament where it was one bad and out, it could've gone the other way.
 
That’s my worry specifically. Our NIL is competitive but Miami is one of those schools that goes all out in an unreasonable way.

Last year Nigel Pack got 800,000 and two cars as a transfer.

They’re also coming off back to back elite 8 appearances so they’ve been doing a good job winning themselves as well.

Key lines from Wong's threats over NIL $ last year:
Apr 28, 2022, 10:25 PM ET
"If Isaiah and his family don't feel that the NIL number meets their expectations they will be entering the transfer portal tomorrow, while maintaining his eligibility in the NBA draft and going through the draft process," Papas (his agent) said.

First, does his "agent" get paid? If he's paid to look for schools willing to pay a lot his fee should be minimal. If he's paid to ferret out deals from various sponsors maybe he gets more.

When the NIL talk began it was my belief that the PLAYERS would be able to offer their NIL's to suitors who would pay to involve them in marketing or whatever they felt might bring value to their companies, etc.

NOT that the schools would be setting up organizations to raise the money required to buy the players off....either to keep them or entice them to leave for GREENER ($$$$$) pastures.

If Charlie Baker wants to keep his image as a master manager he'll get off his arrss and put some rules in place that make it possible for the players to benefit from their skills and fame, not for sitting back and letting the buyers (schools) bundle up the money to get them on campus. If that's how it'll work we don't need an NCAA or any other organizing body.
 
Nigel Pack 800K and 2 cars? Wong wants more money delivered yet he delivered nothing against us?

This is absolutely whacked. LOL really needs a sheriff to take over in Dodge.
I remember the story being Wong wanted $400K or more because Pack was getting $350K.
The fact he stayed would indicate he got it or something more than Pack so I doubt the $800K and two cars for Pack.
If Pack did get paid that much, Miami should think twice about spending a lot of money on a good but not great player.
 
Goodman and Dauster talked about how we don’t have a “real” NIL program yet but seemed confident that we would soon. What @Chief00 is doing is awesome and is going to create memories and build camaraderie but at the end of the day, that is not the same as cutting a kid a check for 300k for some IG promos.
Chief has me blocked, what is he doing?
 
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That’s my worry specifically. Our NIL is competitive but Miami is one of those schools that goes all out in an unreasonable way.

Last year Nigel Pack got 800,000 and two cars as a transfer.

They’re also coming off back to back elite 8 appearances so they’ve been doing a good job winning themselves as well.


NIL is drying up at Miami. One of the prominent boosters is not in great financial standing at the moment. Just fyi
 
It sounds like an old assistant coach is now on the staff at UCLA and they are getting a visit. May hurt our chances.

 
What does this mean. And who is this gentleman?
Dick "Hoops" Weiss is a renowned, award-winning sportswriter and columnist who has covered college football and college and professional basketball for the Philadelphia Daily News and the New York Daily News for 40 years. Weiss has been the president of the U.S. Basketball Writers Association, and the College Football Writers of America. He has also co-written several books with legendary college coaches Rick Pitino, John Calipari, Dick Vitale and authored a tribute book on Duke coach Mike Krzyzewski. Weiss’ true love for the game of basketball began during his days in Philadelphia where he covered Big 5 college hoops at the Palestra for the Philadelphia Daily News for 19 years. He takes pride in the fact that for a period of 7 to 8 years while he covered college basketball in Philadelphia during its heyday, he never missed a game in the arena he is credited with coining as the “The Palestra: Cathedral of Basketball.” Dick Hoops Weiss is featured in articles and shows on big ten tv. Coach George Raveling, Blue Star Media and American and Big East Conference
 

What the hell does that mean. Dick is old and usually just says whatever he knows without caring about repercussions (he has spoiled reveals/,announcements in the past). Is he trying to be a little more delicate and suggesting that Cam is ours while giving the kid his moment? Or is he just parroting a line the coaches told him without any of the context?
 
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I think the people who are down on Spencer need to remember that yes, he’s coming in here to be a starter, but he’s not going to be our primary scoring option. I’m guessing he may be our 4th or 5th scoring option behind Karaban, Clingan, Castle and Newton.

He seems like a perfect fit for what we need, and I trust Hurley to coach up guys on defense. What they did with Joey C is all I need to see to have that confidence. And Spencer is better than Joey C.
Primary Scoring options vary by opponent. He is coming to be the guy who takes advantage of the defense collapsing on DC.
 
What the hell does that mean. Dick usually just says whatever he knows without caring about repercussions (he has spoiled reveals/, announcements in the past). Is he trying to be a little more delicate and suggesting that Cam is ours while giving the kid his moment? Or is he just parroting a line the coaches told him without any of the context?
It sounds like UConn is giving it all they got but the player hasn't bitten yet.
 
What the hell does that mean. Dick is old and usually just says whatever he knows without caring about repercussions (he has spoiled reveals/,announcements in the past). Is he trying to be a little more delicate and suggesting that Cam is ours while giving the kid his moment? Or is he just parroting a line the coaches told him without any of the context?
Sounds like he knows that we're trying really hard to get this kid
 
Primary Scoring options vary by opponent. He is coming to be the guy who takes advantage of the defense collapsing on DC.
For sure. I guess I was saying I’d expect either 3 or 4 of Karaban, Castle, Newton, and Clingan to average more points than him.

Regardless, Miami and UCLA are stiff competition in the recruiting world these days. Both programs have attractive location, NIL, and are Final Four contenders. I would be somewhat surprised if he comes here. Proximity to home might be a separating factor if he ends up coming to Storrs.
 
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Spencer > Timberlake

i'll take the guy that was second on his P5 bubble team in pts, assts, and stls
 
What does this mean. And who is this gentleman?
Let’s hope stock means dollars$$ Has to be between us and them. If we can get close we have a chance because he is a perfect fit with our team. Newton, Castle, Spencer, Karaban and Clingan. And we would be deep imagine Ball, Ross, Stewart, Samson, Singar and Diarra that is eleven. This is going to get interesting if Spencer chooses us.
 
He just completed his visit at Miami per Goodman. Hopefully that means we’re up next?
 
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