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djct1999 said:
Honest question....Is he a boneyard pipe dream or is there a connection that makes this a real possibility?
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No inside info, but I would be shocked if we landed him.
 
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RayIsTheGOAT said:
If we get 3 of Blake Harris, Cam Johnson, Mamoudou Diarra, Kanter, Mamukelashvili that would completely negate the transfers and MAL.
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No it wouldn't. I don't care that Durham only averaged 2 points and 2 rebound per game. Losing him completely diminishes the ceiling of next years team in a way that a low-end four star recruit and <20 MPG grad transfer can't undo.

Johnson would be a huge get but he isn't filling the gaping hole we have in the middle and I suspect he will see that and head elsewhere.
 
champs99and04 said:
No it wouldn't. I don't care that Durham only averaged 2 points and 2 rebound per game. Losing him completely diminishes the ceiling of next years team in a way that a low-end four star recruit and <20 MPG grad transfer can't undo.

Johnson would be a huge get but he isn't filling the gaping hole we have in the middle and I suspect he will see that and head elsewhere.
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Does the loss of Steve Enoch and Juwan Durham leave a gaping hole?
They were the gaping hole.

I like their potential but they are replaceable.
 
champs99and04 said:
No it wouldn't. I don't care that Durham only averaged 2 points and 2 rebound per game. Losing him completely diminishes the ceiling of next years team in a way that a low-end four star recruit and <20 MPG grad transfer can't undo.

Johnson would be a huge get but he isn't filling the gaping hole we have in the middle and I suspect he will see that and head elsewhere.
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The love affair with Juwan Durham on this board is absolutely absurd. Did he show flashes that he could be a good player? Yes. That doesn't make him irreplaceable. He was essentially a non-factor all season long. If the injuries are the excuse, I don't buy that he'll ever be a great player. He's not the first guy to tear an ACL and he had plenty of recovery time to show more than he did.
 
champs99and04 said:
No it wouldn't. I don't care that Durham only averaged 2 points and 2 rebound per game. Losing him completely diminishes the ceiling of next years team in a way that a low-end four star recruit and <20 MPG grad transfer can't undo.

Johnson would be a huge get but he isn't filling the gaping hole we have in the middle and I suspect he will see that and head elsewhere.
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This is soooo far off. Lol. Juwan was not that good last yr and wasnt going to be that much of a game changer next yr. He was not this "inside pressence" you speak of. Because he was a 6'10 bean pole who wasnt good off or def. Sophmore Juwan Durham is easily replaceable
 
champs99and04 said:
No it wouldn't. I don't care that Durham only averaged 2 points and 2 rebound per game. Losing him completely diminishes the ceiling of next years team in a way that a low-end four star recruit and <20 MPG grad transfer can't undo.

Johnson would be a huge get but he isn't filling the gaping hole we have in the middle and I suspect he will see that and head elsewhere.
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Id actually argue that both diarras are exact replacements.
 
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AntG168 said:
This is soooo far off. Lol. Juwan was not that good last yr and wasnt going to be that much of a game changer next yr. He was not this "inside pressence" you speak of. Because he was a 6'10 bean pole who wasnt good off or def. Sophmore Juwan Durham is easily replaceable
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The point isn't that Juwan was good, but that he had a very high ceiling, which raised the ceiling of the team.
 
blue93 said:
The love affair with Juwan Durham on this board is absolutely absurd. Did he show flashes that he could be a good player? Yes. That doesn't make him irreplaceable. He was essentially a non-factor all season long. If the injuries are the excuse, I don't buy that he'll ever be a great player. He's not the first guy to tear an ACL and he had plenty of recovery time to show more than he did.
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He made about two good plays this season.
 
AntG168 said:
A high ceiling, yes. For next year!?! I dont buy it
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Unfortunately, we will never know. He clearly wasn't impressive this past year but I won't forget that video of him giving Tony Bradley work. Back to back acl's is no joke (see Giles, the one time top recruit in this loaded class) but there is a lot of talent in there somewhere.
 
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blue93 said:
The love affair with Juwan Durham on this board is absolutely absurd. Did he show flashes that he could be a good player? Yes. That doesn't make him irreplaceable. He was essentially a non-factor all season long. If the injuries are the excuse, I don't buy that he'll ever be a great player. He's not the first guy to tear an ACL and he had plenty of recovery time to show more than he did.
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It was two torn ACLs back to back
 
RayIsTheGOAT said:
Does the loss of Steve Enoch and Juwan Durham leave a gaping hole?
They were the gaping hole.

I like their potential but they are replaceable.
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There would be major question marks in the front court even if those guys had returned, no doubt.

But I think this board would be surprised to learn how generally unproductive freshman are aside from a handful of players. Even high-end four star guys are typically non-entities early in their careers - it takes most guys until their junior year to become consistently productive. Losing four underclassmen - Durham, Jackson, Enoch, and MAL - doesn't sting because of how good they were so much as it sets the whole process back. If we end up replacing them with similarly regarded kids who are a year or two younger, I don't see that as some net positive, especially when we watched this whole season expecting those freshman mistakes to turn into something better a year down the line. Now we're hitting the reset button at a time where we have an all-American point guard ready to win now.

With regards to Durham, it wasn't only me or this board who had a love affair with him. The scouting services kept him in the top 50 even after the second ACL tear, and Ollie raved about his potential like no other prospect he's coached. Even in a year where he was ginger, rusty, and raw, he demonstrated skills that you could project into a system down the line. I suppose, though, that I have a fundamental disagreement with much of this board regarding what a big man is supposed to provide in the modern game. Jordan Bell is 6'7, 190 pounds and he was arguably the best center in the NCAA Tournament. I don't understand how more people don't see, conceptually, after our last two titles, how that type of player - long, rangy, bouncy - at the center position is essential to our success. This isn't 2002. Defenses are sophisticated enough to function at an elite level despite conceding size and bulk at certain positions. Nova had one of the best defenses in the country this year with Kris f ing Jenkins playing center for a lot of the time. This idea that everybody who plays center here needs to look like DeJuan Blair or Jeff Adrien is outdated.

We won't know whether Durham would have changed things or not. There's a good chance he wouldn't have. Ultimately it doesn't matter. It matters that we were counting on him to play a big role on next years team. You can't replace that this late in the game, because it's not just about finding talented guys and recruiting them, it's about identifying the right player.
 
I initially heard some connections to kentucky (via calipari) but looked into it and apparently he's just from calipari's hometown and his dad played at Pitt when Cal was an assistant there in late 80s

He would immediately be a net positive on any of the 3 players we lost to transfer. Really hope we reel him in
 
I think there are players up Chills sleeve, I think by July we will be happy. I don't think Cam is close as people think. Again I
Think Cal will go after cam and he may end up at KU
 
champs99and04 said:
No it wouldn't. I don't care that Durham only averaged 2 points and 2 rebound per game. Losing him completely diminishes the ceiling of next years team in a way that a low-end four star recruit and <20 MPG grad transfer can't undo.

Johnson would be a huge get but he isn't filling the gaping hole we have in the middle and I suspect he will see that and head elsewhere.
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If we got Sandro, I'd have to disagree. I know all I saw was high light tapes but of all the players in that above list he's my #1. Put him with any other two and I'm going all scrappy on you guys.
 
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Coach J said:
If?
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Getting any combination of those three does not offset the loss of players whatsoever. We'd be gaining some ground back, but they'll have to show me on the court before I get as excited as I was for the original guys.
 
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