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I think that you may see a line up that includes Kia, Moriah, Stewie, Tuck, and Chong. Chong would be the 3 point shooter that temporarily replaces Lou in this game. This may happen for short time. However, the way that Syracuse misses 3's, the rebounding efforts of Gabby and Collier may be a difference maker in order to create a "one and done" situation. And, do not discount Butler's rebounding ability. If you limit Syracuse to one shot per possession, the game is over and statistics will not help that team.
 
If you look at the box score for the Syracuse - Washington game, one statistic basically explains why Syracuse won by a wide margin:

Syracuse took 71 shots
Washington took 52 shots

The two teams' shooting percentages were about the same; their number of made 3's were about the same; the 3-point percentage was about the same; and their made free throws were identical. It's just that Syracuse got up a lot more shots. To a great degree, the reason for that was turnovers, but there was also a huge advantage for the Orange in offensive rebounds.

So that suggests that if UConn can limit turnovers, control the boards at both ends reasonably well, and play its normal game, it should win handily. If Washington had done those things, the margin of victory (for either team) would have been razor-thin.
 
The next man up will probably be Gabby Williams. Then Collier would be the first sub. I think Chong will be the second sub. I doubt Geno plays more than 7 players while the game is close.

I doubt Butler plays much vs Syracuse , their forte is uptempo basketball , not Butler's strength.
There is no way that Butler will play if it is a close game. It will be Williams+Collier.
 
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There are a couple unusual features of 'Cuse's game to consider:

1. They love to press, full-court, to step up the pace and try to force turnovers; and,

2. They shoot a lot of treys and make about 30% of them.
Good ball-handling and passing not only breaks the press, but creates opportunities for easy open shots.

A "miss rate" of 70% creates lots of opportunities for rebounds, many of them caroming well away from the basket.

To take advantage of both areas of opportunity, I see a lot of minutes for Napheesa, Gabby and Saniya - not so much for Natalie.
 
But if it's Saniya's time, why no playing time last night when he had the entire 2nd half to utilize her (excluding the last few garbage time minutes).
I'm assuming Gabby gets the start, Collier first off the bench. Then what...?
Sometimes the opponent and their style of play dictate who plays and who doesn't, I only offered an opinion as I'm not the coach and have no idea what Geno and his staff will do.
 
This is not about Butler per se. But as you all know, when you play zone you don't rebound as well. I see Stewie, Tuck, Gabby, and Pheese having a field day. And Butler if she plays, but I don't look for that to happen.

It'll be like old times from the other orange: Jack up a shot and let the bigs go rebound. :cool:
 
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Big 3 = 40 minutes
Nurse = 35 mins
Gabby = 25-30
Collier = 15-20
Chong = 0-5
Butler will get 0 minutes. Not athletic enough for this matchup.

I think this is about right.

Morgan will probably sit for a few, maybe a minute for Stewie here or there, but those 3 will likely go 38-40. Mo definitely will go all 40. Nurse might actually be closer to 40 herself.

I actually think Collier will get the start, regardless of how many overall minutes she gets. The spark Gabby provides off the bench is valuable.

I agree Chong is only going to see a few minutes here or there -- Geno has shown over the last 2 years that he doesn't trust her in big games, after the Stanford debacle. That isn't going to change overnight because of an injury.

And, yes, while Butler was a decent matchup against OSU's towering big, she has no place in the frenetic kind of game that Syracuse will play.
 
I actually think Collier will get the start, regardless of how many overall minutes she gets. The spark Gabby provides off the bench is valuable.

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Frosh starting the NC game after not starting for a long time? Doesnt seem like something Geno would do, when an older player is available.
 
Frosh starting the NC game after not starting for a long time? Doesnt seem like something Geno would do, when an older player is available.

After 6+ months of practice and 37 games the frosh are no longer very fresh. ;)
 
Syracuse is downright scary.. A good shooting perimeter team that plays fast and plays a scrambling defense with good guard play. Just the type of team that can give UConn problems. We need to come out of the gates fast and on fire on Tuesday. Make them play catch up . And hope they panic and start throwing up ill-advised shots.

I would not like for this game to be too close , say under 12 , in the 4 th quarter. Syracuse has shown that it can hit 3 or 4 shots in a row making it too close for comfort.
Hard to find anything exceptional about Syracuse that would suggest they're downright scary.

They are not a good shooting perimeter team. They've thrived on 3s in their last two games but it's not who they are. For the year their 3 point shooting percentage is 29.8%. And they don't shoot all that many: UConn shoots twice as many and with greater accuracy (38%).

And overall the'yre not a very good shooting team: 37.5% versus 53% for UConn.

Decent guard play for sure...although the team averages 1 TO for each assist.

The scrambling style may be tailor made for creating ways for the Huskies to show off with some speed and elegance. Our defense should punish them.

Nothing scary.
 
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Frosh starting the NC game after not starting for a long time? Doesnt seem like something Geno would do, when an older player is available.

Think there's zero percent chance Collier starts for a slew of reasons.

Guessing Geno will try to get Tuck at least a little rest during the game, perhaps use all his timeouts.

Something like this barring a Miss State type blowout:

Stewart: 40
Jefferson: 40
Tuck: 37
Nurse: 37
Williams: 31
Collier: 15
 
Hard to find anything exceptional about Syracuse that would suggest they're downright scary.

They are not a good shooting perimeter team. They've thrived on 3s in their last two games but it's not who they are. For the year their 3 point shooting percentage is 29.8%. And they don't shoot all that many: UConn shoots twice as many and with greater accuracy (38%).

And overall the'yre not a very good shooting team: 37.5% versus 53% for UConn.

Decent guard play for sure...although the team averages 1 TO for each assist.

The scrambling style may be tailor made for creating ways for the Huskies to show off with some speed and elegance. Our defense should punish them.

Nothing scary.
While I agree that 'Cuse does not shoot well from beyond the arc, they shoot far more 3's than UConn. On the season, the Orange are 332/1113 (29.8%) whereas the Huskies are 289/756 (38.2%).

On a per game average, 'Cuse is 9/30 from 3 whereas UConn is 7.8/20.4 from 3.
 
While I agree that 'Cuse does not shoot well from beyond the arc, they shoot far more 3's than UConn. On the season, the Orange are 332/1113 (29.8%) whereas the Huskies are 289/756 (38.2%).

On a per game average, 'Cuse is 9/30 from 3 whereas UConn is 7.8/20.4 from 3.
Oops. Guys my age should always be double-checked when reading columns of figures. Thanks.

But we still ain't scared, Q's mother wears combat boots !! :)
 
If you look at the box score for the Syracuse - Washington game, one statistic basically explains why Syracuse won by a wide margin:

Syracuse took 71 shots
Washington took 52 shots

The two teams' shooting percentages were about the same; their number of made 3's were about the same; the 3-point percentage was about the same; and their made free throws were identical. It's just that Syracuse got up a lot more shots. To a great degree, the reason for that was turnovers, but there was also a huge advantage for the Orange in offensive rebounds.

So that suggests that if UConn can limit turnovers, control the boards at both ends reasonably well, and play its normal game, it should win handily. If Washington had done those things, the margin of victory (for either team) would have been razor-thin.
agree, UCONN had a few uncharacteristic turnovers in a row. Coach will address that...
It is still not Chong's turn this year...She has a summer to take care of her injury and other issues. If she can own this team next year, she can still have a new NCAA record----the player with fewest loss(1) and most wins in 4 year NCAA play.
 
I'm sorry, but Butler just is not ready for prime time. She's not a work in process. Saniya, however, is a fine talent. Let's keep in mind how she's been hobbled by that IT band injury- very painful. We haven't seen her at her peak performance, or peak of Geno training. Lot's more in her, after she recovers over the spring and summer.
You don't recover from IT Band Syndrome; you learn how to manage it. Running and biking can cause or exacerbate the condition. I know because I have it.
 
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Nice thread. Big fans here and it's a wonderful time to be a UConn and/or a basketball fan.

Could we get a poll for the 5th starter? I like the Pheenom. CGA said he was considering going big and swinging Stewie out in the post game press conference.

The minutes that I'm hoping to see are 2 and 2 for "Tee" and "Polly":)
 
You don't recover from IT Band Syndrome; you learn how to manage it. Running and biking can cause or exacerbate the condition. I know because I have it.

I suffered through IT band syndrome in my early 20s and was treated by a PT for a few weeks. It was extremely painful at the time; even walking down stairs (going up was a snap) was difficult.

However, in a few months' time I was fully recovered and (knock on wood) it never recurred. I never asked the PT what the usual prognosis was - I did not know that it could become chronic over long periods.
 
I suffered through IT band syndrome in my early 20s and was treated by a PT for a few weeks. It was extremely painful at the time; even walking down stairs (going up was a snap) was difficult.

However, in a few months' time I was fully recovered and (knock on wood) it never recurred. I never asked the PT what the usual prognosis was - I did not know that it could become chronic over long periods.
I've had it for years.

It can be caused by correctable things - bad shoes, an injury that causes an uneven gait, or even a handbag or backpack that causes an unnatural shift in posture. In those cases, it can be "cured" if the cause is found. Your PT may have corrected a postural thing or strengthened a series of muscles that supported you in a more natural position.
 
So what does everyone think of Butler getting quality minutes against OSU and her spot in the rotation come Tuesday night?
I liked her coming in and can see that she's possibly the 7th in after Napheesa now that KLS is out. As much as I love Chong it seems that Geno is just not comfortable with her anymore in big spots. Of course I guess it all depends on the situation that unfolds.

Put yourself in Geno's shoes and let me know your rotation on Tuesday.
I had similar thoughts during the OSU game. The rotation will be Collier starting, Gabby first off the bench, then Chong. Uconn will need solid ball handlers those who can be counted on to withstand a double tripple trap.
Yet I can conceive Bigs down low protecting the basket and rebounding---Washington was destroyed by turnovers and one and done's--I suspect Uconn will spend today practicing outlet from traps and how to score on them.
I was pleased to pieces to see Butler getting good time in the OSU game--maybe he was testing her --and she passed the test.
 
Cuse plays 4 guards/outside shooters. With Butler in that means Tuck will be defending out on the perimeter. Does not seem likely. Nan mentioned that Butler could be an answer to breaking the press. Definitely a plus, but then what? IMHO, Butler will get little to no time.
Gabby starts and plays great defense and also grabs many of those long rebounds that Washington could not corral. Maybe she does not hit the 3, but Gabby has been deadly from 12 to 15 ft. If Gabby or Tuck posts up, Cuse only plays one player over 5"11. I see Geno attacking inside and then out. UConn still has four good 3 pt. shooters in MO, Tuck, Stewie & Nurse.
Cuse is very small--their guards are 5"8. 5"9, 5'10, and 5'11. UConn would have the quickness in MO., Gabby & Nurse to handle that. Geno mentioned Stewie would probably be playing on the perimeter and Cuse top guard-Peterson- shoots a set shot that comes off very low. Washington gave too many open looks. UConn will have a hand in the face a little more than Washington did.
Washington did not handle the press and tried to dribble out of it. UConn passing game is too crisp. Gabby's passing has improved along with the rest of the team.

Cuse offense - By the way--Cuse still shot in the low 30% range yesterday. Even with all the open looks and turnovers.
Coach as usual you outlined the failures of Washington and a good method to open up Syracuse's defense.
Since this is just a matter of opinions--I would have Collier start (her team mates call her the ball magnet because she rebounds so well) and bring in Gabby--but it's 50/50 either or--Very good ball handlers will be a must against Syracuse--and the Orange will be looking towards the normal receivers of outlet passes and covering them (Moriah/Stewie/Nurse/Tuck in that order)---
If Uconn can shoot as it did against OSU---the Orange will be pealed --that's a big ifff and cuse will try to make the if a negative.
Washington shot itself in the temple by trying over and over to single handled run through traps without an acceptable outlet. Chantel was a liability--bad passes--not much scoring. In the 3rd quarter they almost found a method to get successfully away from the traps.
Final note- When the Orange was playing half court defense, Washington had open people along the baseline all day, but did not hit the open player. UConn could slow the game ala Texas game, and execute the half court offense all day against the very short Syracuse defense.
So, break the press, half court offense against the small Cuse team and play tighter perimeter D with a lot more rebounds than Washington could grab.
I like the odds for a UConn win. Let's do it!
 
You don't recover from IT Band Syndrome; you learn how to manage it. Running and biking can cause or exacerbate the condition. I know because I have it.

Ditto. That's why the call it Syndrome!
 
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