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BS 4th in the Nation in passing efficiency

sportsart said:
I would bet the house next years QB is already on the roster.
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I assume you have good intel on someone and I hope it proves to be true, however, I have learned to expect the unexpected when it comes to the UCONN QB position. Since Dan O it's been an unpredictable ride.

We will win alot of games next year if the QB position performs well so the staff needs to make sure they have the guy.
 
It’s amazing how a competent offensive staff (Rhett Lashlee) can turn a Zero to a Hero! I hope he doesn’t plan on leaving anytime soon!!
 
WingU-Conn said:
There are quite a few posters here who owe that man an apology. Particularly the guys who kept talking about his time playing fullback at NC State, but don't everyone speak up at once.

Yes, his play could regress, but after three games and the way the offense is performing, we can conclude he is a better QB than we saw the past 2 years under the worst coaches in history.
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SMU is 127th in passing defense and ECU is 125th.
 
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sportsart said:
Last year he could have played a team ranked 235 in passing defense and not have been successful.

Same league, competent coaching.
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He was very successful against Navy who ranked close to that.
 
If Lashlee can get Bryant Sherrifs into the top 5 in the country in passing efficiency, then I am overwhelmingly confident in his ability to take care of the QB position in the future. Forget wine- that's turning water into rum.
 
Jerry1714 said:
He was very successful against Navy who ranked close to that.
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Navy was ranked 104th in passing defense last year. A great game against them last year would be considered a pretty solid performance.
 
Shirreffs is great fit for Lashlee system as requires quick short passes and Bryant is smart so able to make quick reads so expect him to continue to have great year. Just needs to stay healthy as while protection was good first three games he took some big hits last week and will get injured if that continues.
 
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Irishfan said:
Navy was ranked 104th in passing defense last year. A great game against them last year would be considered a pretty solid performance.
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There were 127 teams last year, so 104th is not good at all as its bottom 20% in the nation.
 
Jerry1714 said:
There were 127 teams last year, so 104th is not good at all as its bottom 20% in the nation.
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The difference between 104th and 127th is a lot more than you would think. The yardage difference between 104 and 127 is the same as the difference between #104 and #27. Once you get out of the 120's the yardage differences are small.
 
Jerry1714 said:
SMU is 127th in passing defense and ECU is 125th.
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If you take out the impact of the UConn game on their ranking, which is a more accurate analysis of his performance against them, (because it doesn't include his numbers on their averages) then your already weak argument holds even less weight.

Memphis gave up 879 passing yards over 3 games, or 293 ypg. Shirreffs threw for 406 or 113 more than their average.
SMU gave up 1217 passing yards over 4 games, or 304 ypg. Shirreffs threw for 408 or 104 more than their average.

Both passing defenses are obviously bad, he still threw for 100+ yards more than they were giving up. Not bad for a "Fullback" who isn't a D1 QB.

That's not the only comparison we can make. Last year ECU gave up 36 ppg. Even Western Carolina managed 7 against them. UCF dropped 47, USF 38, Cincy 31, Tulsa 45, SMU 55, Navy 66, Temple 37. AAC opponents averaged 40 ppg. UConn scored 3.

We scored 178 points, or 14.8 ppg last season. We've already scored 111, and are averaging 27.75 per, nearly double, with a running game ranked close to the bottom third.

And the old "Shirreffs locks on to one receiver too often" argument?
Shirreffs passing his way into UConn history
"This season, UConn is one of six FBS programs with seven players already over 100 yards receiver (sic). UConn and Appalachian State are the only ones to accomplish that feat in just four games."

If you want to besmirch Shirreffs at this point, it says a lot about the type of person you are. Your cherry picked stats don't tell the whole the story.

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WingU-Conn said:
If you take out the impact of the UConn game on their ranking, which is a more accurate analysis of his performance against them, (because it doesn't include his numbers on their averages) then your already weak argument holds even less weight.

Memphis gave up 879 passing yards over 3 games, or 293 ypg. Shirreffs threw for 406 or 113 more than their average.
SMU gave up 1217 passing yards over 4 games, or 304 ypg. Shirreffs threw for 408 or 104 more than their average.

Both passing defenses are obviously bad, he still threw for 100+ yards more than they were giving up. Not bad for a "Fullback" who isn't a D1 QB.

That's not the only comparison we can make. Last year ECU gave up 36 ppg. Even Western Carolina managed 7 against them. UCF dropped 47, USF 38, Cincy 31, Tulsa 45, SMU 55, Navy 66, Temple 37. AAC opponents averaged 40 ppg. UConn scored 3.

We scored 178 points, or 14.8 ppg last season. We've already scored 111, and are averaging 27.75 per, nearly double, with a running game ranked close to the bottom third.

And the old "Shirreffs locks on to one receiver too often" argument?
Shirreffs passing his way into UConn history
"This season, UConn is one of six FBS programs with seven players already over 100 yards receiver (sic). UConn and Appalachian State are the only ones to accomplish that feat in just four games."

If you want to besmirch Shirreffs at this point, it says a lot about the type of person you are. Your cherry picked stats don't tell the whole the story.

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I just pointed out their ranks and made no editorial on them. You really take this "apologista" thing to the extreme.
 
Jerry1714 said:
I just pointed out their ranks and made no editorial on them. You really take this "apologista" thing to the extreme.
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You didn't have to.

There is talent on offense. Schemes are bad.
Very hard to win games when you do not have a D1 QB on the field
Jerry1714, Sep 27, 2014

Skin The Bearcats! UConn vs Cincinnati Game Thread
Hard to win games when you do not have at least semi competent QB
Jerry1714, Oct 8, 2016

GUTLESS
Diaco has the team in position to be tied despite having a horrible secondary, too bad the kid playing QB at Hall this weekend is better than BS
Jerry1714, Sep 29, 2016

GUTLESS
You do not put it in the hands of your QB (I make it about the QB because he sucks) who will not complete the pass and give them the ball that close to midfield and let them get momentum. It is really simple, hope that helps you.
Jerry1714, Sep 29, 2016

Diaco
So you would rather he run a run and shoot offense with his terrible o line and average QB and so you can be entertained while you watch them get blown out and he gets fired?
Jerry1714, Sep 18, 2016
 
WingU-Conn said:
You didn't have to.

There is talent on offense. Schemes are bad.
Very hard to win games when you do not have a D1 QB on the field
Jerry1714, Sep 27, 2014

Skin The Bearcats! UConn vs Cincinnati Game Thread
Hard to win games when you do not have at least semi competent QB
Jerry1714, Oct 8, 2016

GUTLESS
Diaco has the team in position to be tied despite having a horrible secondary, too bad the kid playing QB at Hall this weekend is better than BS
Jerry1714, Sep 29, 2016

GUTLESS
You do not put it in the hands of your QB (I make it about the QB because he sucks) who will not complete the pass and give them the ball that close to midfield and let them get momentum. It is really simple, hope that helps you.
Jerry1714, Sep 29, 2016

Diaco
So you would rather he run a run and shoot offense with his terrible o line and average QB and so you can be entertained while you watch them get blown out and he gets fired?
Jerry1714, Sep 18, 2016
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Holy smokes you are certifiable loser. Going back to 2014. Wow, man, that is embarrassing for you. You do have "apologista" handle so I should not be surprised that you are huge loser. I do remember your inability to count last season in defending RE's record at Maryland, so maybe you should focus on learning to add instead of stalking others on the internet?

Oh, and those posts from years ago were right, BS flat out stunk the last few years, so what is your point?
 
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huskymedic said:
Huh??
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Those who think UConn coaches have free reign in recruiting are naive. University officials discourage students who don't have high enough SAT scores or class rank, if anyone ever got into trouble with the police, that's a real negative, there are also concerns how will the recruit mix with the current team culture and coaching style. And UConn coaches, under Bob Diaco and Paul Pas. likely ignored the best recruits. There is no reason that UConn can't convince the recruit headed to be the back-up QB at Alab to consider coming to Storrs, if they are given a commitment they will be playing from year one. And we should be out there trying to convince every student headed to a Texas P5, for instance, to consider Storrs. I am sure some of them worry about a four year college career on the bench.
 
Jerry1714 said:
Holy smokes you are certifiable loser. Going back to 2014. Wow, man, that is embarrassing for you. You do have "apologista" handle so I should not be surprised that you are huge loser. I do remember your inability to count last season in defending RE's record at Maryland, so maybe you should focus on learning to add instead of stalking others on the internet?

Oh, and those posts from years ago were right, BS flat out stunk the last few years, so what is your point?
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Loses argument based on merit, starts name calling, changes topic from Shirreffs to Edsall.

Classic troll.

You've been owned in this thread, you should just stop now. But, as if it's not obvious enough, the posts were not right. You defended Diaco based on the play of Shirreffs. Others, such as myself, defended Shirreffs based on the coaching of Diaco (and others).

Now Shirreffs is the 4th rated passer in the country, runs the 12th ranked offense, has accomplished something no other UConn QB has done (back to back 400 yard games), and is one of two QBs in the country to spread the ball around enough to have 7 different receivers > 100 yards. The offense has doubled their scoring output. And the OL is really only marginally better.

So those comments about Shirreffs not being a competent QB were incorrect. He had the worst coaches in the country. The play wasn't given to him until about 10 seconds left in the play clock. Hardly any time to read the defense, make adjustments, point out blocking assignments/blitzing players, etc.

You're embarrassing yourself here. At least when I made a mistake I owned it.
 
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It's great that BS is having a good year.

But realistically, is he much improved or is the difference the OC?

Yep, he came in and and beat Holy Cross. But he hasn't rung up a W since. That falls mostly on the defense. Not BS fault.

But each game, he comes out and falls behind. Throws an early INT or misses and open guy on third down. Then plays well and we get closer, even tied once, but never over the hump. I would like to see us (and BS) break that pattern on Friday.
 
WingU-Conn said:
Loses argument based on merit, starts name calling, changes topic from Shirreffs to Edsall.

Classic troll.

You've been owned in this thread, you should just stop now. But, as if it's not obvious enough, the posts were not right. You defended Diaco based on the play of Shirreffs. Others, such as myself, defended Shirreffs based on the coaching of Diaco (and others).

Now Shirreffs is the 4th rated passer in the country, runs the 12th ranked offense, has accomplished something no other UConn QB has done, and is one of two QBs in the country to spread the ball around enough to have 7 different receivers > 100 yards. The offense has doubled their scoring output. And the OL is really only marginally better.

So those comments about Shirreffs not being a competent QB were incorrect. He had the worst coaches in the country. The play wasn't given to him until about 10 seconds left in the play clock. Hardly any time to read the defense, make adjustments, point out blocking assignments/blitzing players, etc.

You're embarrassing yourself here. At least when I made a mistake I owned it.
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No this is owning: Sally Jenkins hit piece on Edsall

Not being able to count is embarrassing. Turtling and running away when proven wrong is embarrassing. All components of the "apologista" playbook.

But sure lets throw a parade for BS being winless against D1 teams because he has had good games against 3 bad defenses. Never said he was not playing well this year, just that you should slow down. And he did stink the last few years. Coaching was bad but so was the QB play to say other wise would be like saying 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014 is 3 seasons not 4.
 
Palatine said:
It's great that BS is having a good year.

But realistically, is he much improved or is the difference the OC?

Yep, he came in and and beat Holy Cross. But he hasn't rung up a W since. That falls mostly on the defense. Not BS fault.

But each game, he comes out and falls behind. Throws an early INT or misses and open guy on third down. Then plays well and we get closer, even tied once, but never over the hump. I would like to see us (and BS) break that pattern on Friday.
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We are 3-1 or 4-0 if the D is even "average". Agreed he has missed people or made mistakes in spots - he isn't perfect. But I don't put the record on him.
 
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Palatine said:
It's great that BS is having a good year.

But realistically, is he much improved or is the difference the OC?

Yep, he came in and and beat Holy Cross. But he hasn't rung up a W since. That falls mostly on the defense. Not BS fault.

But each game, he comes out and falls behind. Throws an early INT or misses and open guy on third down. Then plays well and we get closer, even tied once, but never over the hump. I would like to see us (and BS) break that pattern on Friday.
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You just need to stop. He was 22-28 vs SMU with tons of yards. Look at his TD to int ration this year and look at his completion percentage.

I know you are pining for Pindell but come on Dave, really?
 
Jerry1714 said:
No this is owning: Sally Jenkins hit piece on Edsall

Not being able to count is embarrassing. Turtling and running away when proven wrong is embarrassing. All components of the "apologista" playbook.

But sure lets throw a parade for BS being winless against D1 teams because he has had good games against 3 bad defenses. Never said he was not playing well this year, just that you should slow down. And he did stink the last few years. Coaching was bad but so was the QB play to say other wise would be like saying 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014 is 3 seasons not 4.
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"He's not a D1 QB"

I made a mistake and admitted it (twice alone in this thread)

One of us can be an adult and admit when he's wrong. The other is you.

Edit: just went back and re-read some of that. I admitted making a mistake. I read the wiki page which said "2011-2012". Since football seasons generally start in one year, and end in the next, I read that as the 2011-2012 season. Not the 2011 and 2012 seasons. I personally think that's a reasonable mistake, and it wasn't until I went back and read the blurb that I realized it was two seasons.

I admitted my mistake in that thread and this one. Who is turtling up and running away?

There's a reason he stunk....incompetent coaching. One recent article mentioned they never got the play into the huddle until about 10 seconds left in the play clock. That leaves him 10 seconds to call the play, get everyone to the line, read the defense, call out assignments, make adjustments...most of which inevitably never happened. It's obvious why he locked onto his first target. He was never put in a position to succeed. And none of that even mentions the porous OL.

But you know, let's keep hearing more about the mistake that I admitted to, since that's all you got.
 
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WingU-Conn said:
"He's not a D1 QB"

I made a mistake and admitted it (twice alone in this thread)

One of us can be an adult and admit when he's wrong. The other is you.
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There is a difference between using hyperbole when frustrated by a players poor extremely play in the moment and calling others idiots because you cannot count to four as you did in that thread. I will take my actions any day of the week over yours.
 
Jerry1714 said:
There is a difference between using hyperbole when frustrated by a players poor extremely play in the moment and calling others idiots because you cannot count to four as you did in that thread. I will take my actions any day of the week over yours.
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Like said, I admitted I was wrong. Your comments made "in the moment" lasted 2 seasons, but cool story bro.

Tell us again why Shirreffs throwing for over 100 more yards than the defenses were surrendering, means he isn't even a "semi-competent" D1 QB.
 
If BS plays the next 9 games like the first 3, he will be grouped with Dan O alone.

If he stays healthy I expect it to be an amazing season.....for the offense.

Healthy BS, competent coaching and a good group of WR's should be fun.

How about we move on?
 
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