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junglehusky said:
I would say UConn's rise in stature is largely coincident with the success of its athletics department. The two are related for sure, but one is not causative of the other. The main factor for both has been funding from the state along with donors.
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Just a coincidence. Sorry but you are wrong. I'm sure its a coincidence at these other schools too. Please take a moment to read. Butler's final four appearances were worth 1.2 billion to the school. Amazing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flutie_Effect

George Mason
Another school alleged to have experienced the "Flutie Effect" was George Mason University, following their 2005–06 basketball team's advancement to the "Final Four" of the 2006 NCAA Men's Division I Basketball Tournament as an 11th seed.[6]
[edit] Appalachian State

ASU had a "Flutie Effect" after winning multiple Division I-AA Championships and upsetting Michigan with Armanti Edwards as their quarterback.
[edit] Boise State

Boise State University experienced an effect similar to the "Flutie Effect" after their 43-42 overtime victory over Oklahoma in the 2007 Fiesta Bowl. The game capped an undefeated season and a top-5 finish by Boise State, a team not considered to be a traditional football power. Online inquiries about the school increased 135 percent, and graduate school application inquiries increased tenfold. Boise State also enrolled over 19,000 students the next fall, an all-time high. [7]
[edit] Northern Iowa

Another school that was reported to have experienced a similar "Flutie Effect" as a result of a basketball accomplishment was the University of Northern Iowa. In the 2010 NCAA Tournament, the Panthers sprung an upset of top-ranked Kansas. The game and the national exposure that went with it led to massive increases in donations, website traffic, and e-commerce for the athletic department, and a 30 percent increase in calls to UNI's admissions office on the Monday after the upset.[8]
[edit] Butler University

Two studies estimated that television, print, and online news coverage of Butler University's men's basketball team's 2010 and 2011 appearances in the NCAA tournament championship game resulted in additional publicity for the university worth about $1.2 billion. In an example of the "Flutie Effect", applications rose by 41% after the 2010 appearance.[5]
 
Let me clarify - they are related as I said, but one is not causative of the other. That's what I mean by coincident (happening at the same time). The cause is money / funding. I will concede that donors / alumni give more after a successful athletic season. But I'm guessing for UConn that most of the endowed professorships and large gifts for a new building happen about as often during periods of less athletic success as they do in periods of Final Fours or BCS games.

I did read the wikipedia article. Interestingly, the second paragraph of the section on the Flutie effect specifically at BC is actually questioning the legitimacy of the effect as being a fallacy that's repeated by the media. However I do think there is a demonstrated increase in undergrad applications after athletic success as shown in the other examples, and as we've seen here at UConn. But how long does it last? Two years maybe? Long term, established gains in both athletics and academics need the same thing - funding. In the case of UConn, both academic and athletic funding increased over the same period of time.
 
Last thing and I'll leave it. Honestly I hope the this kid gets accepted, even if he was never to play for us, and applaud the fact that he graduated in 3 years. He deserves the best. Kids need to graduate - bottom line.

I know for a fact that Pharmacy takes 100 probably not 101. NEAG has a limit and it is one of the best Education schools in the country. Nursing, Engineering etc. are all competitive. If me or one of my kids did NOT get accepted then we would have a right to be pi$$ed. Yes??

Good luck Bryce and (hopefully) welcome aboard.
 
Can I ask a dumb question for those more attuned to the school's academics - don't you get this answer before the kid announces he is oming? We have known for 7 months he chose UConn - this could not have been a shock to PP to find about one day reading the Boneyard. So, don't you do some due diligence - do we have a grad program Clemson does not; can he get in; will he - BEFORE August?
 
gioff23 said:
Can I ask a dumb question for those more attuned to the school's academics - don't you get this answer before the kid announces he is oming? We have known for 7 months he chose UConn - this could not have been a shock to PP to find about one day reading the Boneyard. So, don't you do some due diligence - do we have a grad program Clemson does not; can he get in; will he - BEFORE August?
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He committed to us in Feb I believe. He didn't finish classes at Clemson until this summer. So there was no way to know, prior to graduting, what his academic standing would be.
 
Jimmy Serrano said:
He committed to us in Feb I believe. He didn't finish classes at Clemson until this summer. So there was no way to know, prior to graduting, what his academic standing would be.
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Oh, one other note that I forgot but was mentioned today in John Silver's huskieblog: McNeal would have to enroll in a grad program that is not offered at Clemson. So that probably restricts things quite a bit.
 
junglehusky said:
Oh, one other note that I forgot but was mentioned today in John Silver's huskieblog: McNeal would have to enroll in a grad program that is not offered at Clemson. So that probably restricts things quite a bit.
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Well, that should've been known when he committed in Feb.
 
rich1122 said:
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That's a cop out. We signed 20 kids in February under the assumption they would graduate from HS. We screened them academically before they signed the LOI. This is a kid graduating in 3 years - not a big leap to assume he will graduate and have a backpocket answer as to whether he is eligible, when he graduates. If he didn't graduate, he can't go anywhere w/o sitting a year.
 
gioff23 said:
That's a cop out. We signed 20 kids in February under the assumption they would graduate from HS. We screened them academically before they signed the LOI. This is a kid graduating in 3 years - not a big leap to assume he will graduate and have a backpocket answer as to whether he is eligible, when he graduates. If he didn't graduate, he can't go anywhere w/o sitting a year.
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Maybe we are just making a mountain out of a mole hill and we can see what happens when camp breaks.
 
http://www.uc2000.uconn.edu/reports/report01/

One has to include UConn 2000 in UConn's academic rise. Sure the championship runs definitely had an impact. But without a $1 billion dollar investment into the schools decaying infrastructure (you should have seen the shithole campus in the early 90's) the impact would have been mitigated.

UConn 2000 was put in motion in 1995. 4 years before our first championship. Both the huge investment (which made the school more attractive and physically appealing), and the athletic achievement (which made the school more popular) have helped UConn become the top public university in New England. It would be dishonest to credit only athletics for rise of UConn.
 
WingU-Conn said:
http://www.uc2000.uconn.edu/reports/report01/

One has to include UConn 2000 in UConn's academic rise. Sure the championship runs definitely had an impact. But without a $1 billion dollar investment into the schools decaying infrastructure (you should have seen the ****hole campus in the early 90's) the impact would have been mitigated.

UConn 2000 was put in motion in 1995. 4 years before our first championship. Both the huge investment (which made the school more attractive and physically appealing), and the athletic achievement (which made the school more popular) have helped UConn become the top public university in New England. It would be dishonest to credit only athletics for rise of UConn.
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You beat me to it! UConn2000 definitely transformed the university and changed our situation. I would disagree with you that the university was a s$%thole before it (except for the "Frat House Road", which.....was a s$%thole...), but you are absolutely on the money with the UConn2000 thing. The one good thing that came out of Rowland's mouth.
 
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Butchy said:
It looked North Korean back then.
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In 1993 my wife took a job near Hartford and I was still working in MA so living in NE CT seemed the way to go. We took a couple of drives just to scout out candidate communities and on one we stumbled upon the UConn campus and took a drive-through. We were horrified. With the obvious exception of Gampel the entire place had that "the boys are coming home from war so let's throw up some brick buildings" look and it seemed as if little had been done to maintain or improve it since. We thought, "How can this be the flagship university of the state with the highest per capita income in the country?"

Now if you make the same drive-through the campus is incredible (except for those two buildings out front near the lake that if you added rows of doors to the outside would look like 1950's era motels). That investment has been compounded by an increasingly competitive student body. I wouldn't have sent my child to that campus 20 years ago for any reason other than financial. Now I would have no problem doing so in competition with all but a very small number of schools on an academic and student experience basis.
 
kibblesnbits said:
In 1993 my wife took a job near Hartford and I was still working in MA so living in NE CT seemed the way to go. We took a couple of drives just to scout out candidate communities and on one we stumbled upon the UConn campus and took a drive-through. We were horrified. With the obvious exception of Gampel the entire place had that "the boys are coming home from war so let's throw up some brick buildings" look and it seemed as if little had been done to maintain or improve it since. We thought, "How can this be the flagship university of the state with the highest per capita income in the country?"

Now if you make the same drive-through the campus is incredible (except for those two buildings out front near the lake that if you added rows of doors to the outside would look like 1950's era motels). That investment has been compounded by an increasingly competitive student body. I wouldn't have sent my child to that campus 20 years ago for any reason other than financial. Now I would have no problem doing so in competition with all but a very small number of schools on an academic and student experience basis.
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Geesh! I think you took a wrong turn and drove through ECSU...:eek:
 
metsfan2323 said:
Just a coincidence. Sorry but you are wrong. I'm sure its a coincidence at these other schools too. Please take a moment to read. Butler's final four appearances were worth 1.2 billion to the school. Amazing.


I read the link and I my takeaway was that the PR they received had a value of 1.2B if they had to purchase it themselves.
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Only my opinion, but UConn2000 only got enough support to pass after the basketball teams had huge success in the early 90s. Sure, UConn (men) didn't win a title until '99, but the team made the NCAA T in '90, '91, '92, and '94. They advanced to the Sweet 16 in '90, '91, & '94. They also had Scott Burrell, Chris Smith, and Ray Allen by then. On the Women's side, the Huskies had been to the Elite 8 twice in the 90's by 1995, and had nationally known Rebecca Lobo on the team. Huskymania was in full effect by 1995 and was a big part of UConn2000 getting passed.
 
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kibblesnbits said:
In 1993 my wife took a job near Hartford and I was still working in MA so living in NE CT seemed the way to go. We took a couple of drives just to scout out candidate communities and on one we stumbled upon the UConn campus and took a drive-through. We were horrified. With the obvious exception of Gampel the entire place had that "the boys are coming home from war so let's throw up some brick buildings" look and it seemed as if little had been done to maintain or improve it since. We thought, "How can this be the flagship university of the state with the highest per capita income in the country?"

Now if you make the same drive-through the campus is incredible (except for those two buildings out front near the lake that if you added rows of doors to the outside would look like 1950's era motels). That investment has been compounded by an increasingly competitive student body. I wouldn't have sent my child to that campus 20 years ago for any reason other than financial. Now I would have no problem doing so in competition with all but a very small number of schools on an academic and student experience basis.
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It was still fun being there. No regrets in going there. Couldn't have asked for a better college experience. I still have no idea what Calhoun said to Donyell, Ray Allen, etc.
 
Jax Husky said:
Only my opinion, but UConn2000 only got enough support to pass after the basketball teams had huge success in the early 90s. Sure, UConn (men) didn't win a title until '99, but the team made the NCAA T in '90, '91, '92, and '94. They advanced to the Sweet 16 in '90, '91, & '94. They also had Scott Burrell, Chris Smith, and Ray Allen by then. On the Women's side, the Huskies had been to the Elite 8 twice in the 90's by 1995, and had nationally known Rebecca Lobo on the team. Huskymania was in full effect by 1995 and was a big part of UConn2000 getting passed.
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Bingo. "Huskymania" was unleashed in 1990, it swept through the state, infected the legislature and played a big role in getting UCONN 2000 initiated and passed.
 
i just talked to bryce. he has no news to report yet. waiting...
 
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businesslawyer said:
Well, if you spoke to him what is he waiting for? Which grad school is he trying to get into and when will he know definitively?
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he didn't want to put out any specifics. just wanted to say that he was waiting for news from uconn and that visiting lville as we know was a backup in case something doesn't work out. players report on august 2nd and pads on the 3rd, so we will know soon prob...hope we get him in and all ready to go asap.
 
HuskyfanDan said:
he didn't want to put out any specifics. just wanted to say that he was waiting for news from uconn and that visiting lville as we know was a backup in case something doesn't work out. players report on august 2nd and pads on the 3rd, so we will know soon prob...hope we get him in and all ready to go asap.
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Great work, Dan.
 
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