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Jimmy Serrano said:
I'm not saying they're not different. But how many times is this scenario actually going to play out? Once every 10 years, if that? We had a chance to get a former 4 star WR (if that means anything to you) who was good enough to see the field at Clemson and we can't make an exception for him to get into grad school? Mind boggling. If this were to happen every year I can understand the school having to draw the line. But once in a blue moon? Get the kid into school.
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Of course getting the best players possible into a UConn uniform means something to me, I wouldn't be hanging out on this board if that were not the case. However, I just don't think you can berate the grad school admissions folks for this. Many seem to be looking at this situation in a bubble. Like McNeal's grad school application just showed up last week. McNeal and the staff obviously knew approximately what his GPA was going to be well before his studies were completed as the last couple of grades during the summer do not have a drastic impact on GPA. Admissions likely told all involved that it was still possible to get in, but they need to see other results (GRE, interviews, recommendations ect..). Maybe they were waiting in GRE scores to see if there could be more "flexibility".

There is a reason he chose Louisville among the many schools that he could attend. Hell the kid is from Minnesota. Ya don't think he would want to play back home or in the B1G. Ya don't think Minnesota, Indiana, Purdue or other B1G teams could use a proven reciever. The bottom line is he was probably told "no way" when approaching their grad school admissions.
 
pj said:
Becoming like the University of Michigan would be acceptable. I wonder if they've ever lost a football player to grad student admissions.
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I would guess yes. I would guess most respectable schools with athletics programs have.

What you don't hear about is the amount of players that reached out to programs only to be told they can't be accepted with their grades and it never goes public. As said above, I'm sure McNeal reached out to other programs before us and Ville and was told no.
 
businesslawyer said:
No one here can intelligently discuss the specifics of this case, because we don't know them. All people can note is that for the second time in two years issues with getting young men into our grad schools has cost us a player who can help us.
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Please stop with the Robbie Frey stuff, for the 80th time! He was accepted into UConn and chose not to go. Unless of course you are referring to a different player, in which case, I will apologize in advance...
 
UConnDan97 said:
Please stop with the Robbie Frey stuff, for the 80th time! He was accepted into UConn and chose not to go. Unless of course you are referring to a different player, in which case, I will apologize in advance...
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Didn't it turn out that he was accepted but saw that his future was not in football so he chose to get his degree in PA for reasons involving getting his teaching certificate?
 
mets1090 said:
Didn't it turn out that he was accepted but saw that his future was not in football so he chose to get his degree in PA for reasons involving getting his teaching certificate?
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Yes, sort of. He saw that he could get his degree in 18 months instead of 2+ years at UConn. Also, his fiancee was in PA at the time, and not CT:

http://articles.courant.com/2011-02...ch-edsall-kelmetrus-wylie-jonathan-jean-louis

"At Kutztown, Frey will be able to graduate in 18 months and be certified to teach high school social studies in Pennsylvania. At UConn, it would have taken two years or longer. He also got engaged last summer, though he insisted that wasn't a factor in his move."

The funny thing is that this is perhaps the sixth time that I have had to link this article on the Boneyard in the last month, pretty much all pertaining to the McNeal case, and it keeps getting brought up. Not sure how many more times I'll have to, so I'll save it on my harddrive...
 
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pj said:
Yes, bizlaw is right. Every school makes exceptions. I was at Harvard and professors were instructed that kids of mega-rich donors could not be given a failing grade. A university doesn't lose respect because one bad student out of thousands gets a degree; it gains a ton of respect by having money and a successful athletics program. It's for the good of the university to let top athletes in and let them maintain academic standing and get a degree with much more lenient standards than other students.

That said, a line has to be drawn somewhere and I don't think any of us can comment with complete confidence on any individual case.
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And how exactly has that strategy helped shape your perception of the SEC academically?
Apparently Boise has backed out of the BE and is headed to the Ivy League...
 
businesslawyer said:
Difference -- I've seen McNeal play college football. I am not relying on stars given to him in high school.

Arguing about whether it should be as easy to get a kid into grad school as undergrad is fine, but we don't need to denegrate the kid's abilities in doing so. He started at Clemson for a while. He played on TV. And people have seen him play at the college level.
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McNeal - Career Rushing/Receiving Stats
Year Team G Rush Yds Yd/Rush TDs Rec Yds Yd/Rec TDs
2010 Clem 12 4 7 1.8 0 19 187 9.8 0
2011 Clem 1 0 0 - 0 1 8 8.0 0
Career 13 4 7 1.8 0 20 195 9.8 0

Career Returning Stats
Year Team G Punt Returns Yds Avg TDs Kick Returns Yds Avg TDs
2010 Clem 12 1 0 0.0 0 0 0 - 0
Career 13 1 0 0.0 0 0 0 - 0
 
If RF doesn't make it in the nfl, i would love to see him get on our staff or another in time...
 
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