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Bryan Hodgson Hired as New Providence Head Coach

He’s an excellent coach and great for the big east. But PC has inflated their NIL from the start. Rumors they have 12-15 million to spend every year, yet they use their NIL on guys like Edwards, Powell, etc. it doesn’t add up.
Just 2 years ago PC was calling English the best coach in the BE. I’ll wait to see how Hogdson does in actual conference before declaring PC is “back” (what is back for a program that’s hasn’t been in the FF since 87????)
 
Hey Adrien! said:
A couple of years? He turned the program around in one year!
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Time flies at my age. Why I like this hire so much even though I clearly don't know anything is because you see guys all the time make the leap and crap the bed. This guy made the leap and thrived. That's a big plus to me. For English, PC was the leap.
 
Deepster said:
How so? They’re back to where they were when Cooley left trying to find someone as good or better.
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Because they’d be a team that has an identity, vibe, and the ability to make the right hire to keep things going. That’s certainly better than where they are right now. Kim English was a bad hire and he sunk whatever momentum Cooley had established.
 
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MJKI said:
He’s an excellent coach and great for the big east. But PC has inflated their NIL from the start. Rumors they have 12-15 million to spend every year, yet they use their NIL on guys like Edwards, Powell, etc. it doesn’t add up.
Just 2 years ago PC was calling English the best coach in the BE. I’ll wait to see how Hogdson does in actual conference before declaring PC is “back” (what is back for a program that’s hasn’t been in the FF since 87????)
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Having money is only half the equation. Guys still have to want to go play at PC and that's been the bigger hurdle
 
nelsonmuntz said:
Why does any coach stay anywhere? Also, who cares if he leaves? Coaches are not nearly as important as they used to be, because recruiting is about talent evaluation and cash more than sales. The days of the coach being the program and the program being the coach are long past.
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What a silly post.

You think Kim English would be any good at UConn instead of Hurley? He’s a great recruiter.

Look at the coaches left standing right now. Painter, Izzo, Self, Pitino, Hurley, Samson, Scheyer, Calipari. They’re not important at all.
 
Hurleyman216 said:
Seems like a very underwhelming hire
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Who were you thinking a 15-18 team in the BE would draw?

Hodgson has rebuilt two different teams in 20 win squads at the low and mid major level and was a top assistant for Alabama being the main recruiter for 4 and 5 star guys. I don’t know if Hodgson will turn PC into a powerhouse or not, but, on paper, this is a great hire.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
I thought the AAC was a better conference than the Big East?

As for the NIL, I bet they spent a lot this year, which was one of many reasons to throw English out. PC basketball is the only show in town in Rhode Island. They should have cash.
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Let's not overlook Bryant College. They've always on the list of schools the top recruits are considering!
 
Deepster said:
The hire is fine. What I’d say is this.

If he left USF after just one season, why would he stay at PC once he gets them good enough to get a bigger offer? I set the over/under of his PC tenure at 3 years.
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I said somewhere in another thread that USF has a lot of money. It appears to me though that the big money is reserved for football which like Texas is king in FL. If they are talking $12MM in NIL and its mostly reserved for bball that would be a good reason for wanting the job. If he underperforms however it will also be a good reason to remove him from the job. Reading his background he seems like a good person and a good coach.
 
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FfldCntyFan said:
True. I prefer waiting until he succeeds or fails before I will view him as a success or failure.

I still remember when the belief was that Keno Davis was going to dominate the northeast for a quarter century.
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True, still, I think we can acknowledge that this was a good hire for our friends to the east and laugh about the woes of our Canadian friends.

I'm sure that I'm not the first person to make this joke, but as it turns out, I guess Providence really did have as good as chance as anyone at Hodgson.
 
Excalibur said:
The whole “revenue share is an advantage for the Big East” has been demonstratively proven false.
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This is a wild opinion to have when we haven't seen a transfer portal cycle with revenue sharing yet. This went into effect over the summer last year after the portal cycle was already over
 
CL82 said:
True, still, I think we can acknowledge that this was a good hire for our friends to the east and laugh about the woes of our Canadian friends.
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Yes to the former, but again, viewing it as a good hire hire from appearances is one thing. Viewing it as successful will take time. As for the latter, I believe there may be a point in time where situations such as this are no longer funny, merely sad, but that is a long way off Adding insult to injury, he's one of them (from the frozen tundra of northern New York state). That he turned them down makes it more painful for the fruit and their fans.

CL82 said:
I'm sure that I'm not the first person to make this joke, but as it turns out, I guess Providence really did have as good as chance as anyone at Hodgson.
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Not only did they have as good a chance as anyone, unlike their team this past season, they were actually able to finish the job.
 
navery12 said:
This is a wild opinion to have when we haven't seen a transfer portal cycle with revenue sharing yet. This went into effect over the summer last year after the portal cycle was already over
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My thoughts exactly. Or really a recruiting cycle since almost all the 2025 recruits committed before revenue sharing was passed this past June. We haven't seen the revenue sharing work through the system. Give it a couple years.

This is the last season of these big NIL packages. From here it's mostly revenue sharing.

Btw, I see NIL and revenue sharing being used by a lot of posters interchangeably. They're 2 different things. Most money players will be getting will be revenue sharing. Unless schools cheat a lot the NIL will be much less. I'll be curious to see what kind of revenue sharing packages the star players get. Will they be offered money like Dybantsa got? Or what Lendeborg says he was offered by Kentucky?
 
Excalibur said:
The whole “revenue share is an advantage for the Big East” has been demonstratively proven false.
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This is too early to tell but without the $ competition from football and other revenue sports the basic premise of having more money for basketball is solid. The legal settlement from the NCAA was for over $20MM per year with each Div ! program to decide how to allocate it in their own program. The player payment dates back to 2016 due to that being the starting date of the lawsuit.
 
Excalibur said:
The whole “revenue share is an advantage for the Big East” has been demonstratively proven false.
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It all changes this year. Any NIL deal signed before July 1, 2025 were subject to the previous rules, as in there were none. All of the NIL deals for the 26-27 season need to be run through and approved by Deloitte and their algorithm. This coming year the vast majority of money to players will be in Revenue share. NIL going forward has to be the real deal. No more $3 mil for one visit to a children’s hospital and a few signed glossy pictures.
 
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Curious to see if he can hold on to Jones, Vaaks, and Mela.
 
FriarJ said:
It all changes this year. Any NIL deal signed before July 1, 2025 were subject to the previous rules, as in there were none. All of the NIL deals for the 26-27 season need to be run through and approved by Deloitte and their algorithm. This coming year the vast majority of money to players will be in Revenue share. NIL going forward has to be the real deal. No more $3 mil for one visit to a children’s hospital and a few signed glossy pictures.
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Yeah good luck enforcing this. First players not reporting NIL deals. How will this committee enforce reporting. Two the court system will rule against this NIL committee what is a “real” nil deal. P2 football teams will be spending much more than $20 million on football alone.
 
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FriarJ said:
It all changes this year. Any NIL deal signed before July 1, 2025 were subject to the previous rules, as in there were none. All of the NIL deals for the 26-27 season need to be run through and approved by Deloitte and their algorithm. This coming year the vast majority of money to players will be in Revenue share. NIL going forward has to be the real deal. No more $3 mil for one visit to a children’s hospital and a few signed glossy pictures.
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Which will last a year until the NCAA gets sued again lol
 
BFieldHusky said:
Could happen. Right now the landscape has changed. Its about your NIL structure. If Providence continues to fund at a high level, it will be a desired job.

Could you imagine saying Providence is a better job than Cuse? In 2026, it is.
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The Big East has coherence and a reasonable chance of success (given how mid some of the teams have been). You look at a job like Syracuse and you're flying to Palo Alto for a conference game or Dallas. It's a huge mess—and a coach has Duke-UNC-Louisville standing in their way (along with other programs like Virginia that has recently won a title). The path forward is just brutal, especially if you aren't convinced you're going to get the resources.

Big East has UConn and a huge opening. There's a bunch of solid programs that compete in that next tier, most notably Villanova. A good coaching hire, like Pitino to St. John's, can win you the conference and get you to a Sweet 16.

It's part of the reason why Maryland lost their coach to Villanova (though I'd say Villanova is historically a tier above Maryland).

The NCAA is going to do things to kill non-football schools soon enough, but I'm hopeful the Big East's weakness this year is an aberration, and that the longer decline will take place after UConn has found a landing place.
 
FriarJ said:
It all changes this year. Any NIL deal signed before July 1, 2025 were subject to the previous rules, as in there were none. All of the NIL deals for the 26-27 season need to be run through and approved by Deloitte and their algorithm. This coming year the vast majority of money to players will be in Revenue share. NIL going forward has to be the real deal. No more $3 mil for one visit to a children’s hospital and a few signed glossy pictures.
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By the way @FriarJ, congrats on the new coach! Looks like you guys landed a good one. Hope he sticks around and makes things interesting.
 
tzznandrew said:
The Big East has coherence and a reasonable chance of success (given how mid some of the teams have been). You look at a job like Syracuse and you're flying to Palo Alto for a conference game or Dallas. It's a huge mess—and a coach has Duke-UNC-Louisville standing in their way (along with other programs like Virginia that has recently won a title). The path forward is just brutal, especially if you aren't convinced you're going to get the resources.

Big East has UConn and a huge opening. There's a bunch of solid programs that compete in that next tier, most notably Villanova. A good coaching hire, like Pitino to St. John's, can win you the conference and get you to a Sweet 16.

It's part of the reason why Maryland lost their coach to Villanova (though I'd say Villanova is historically a tier above Maryland).

The NCAA is going to do things to kill non-football schools soon enough, but I'm hopeful the Big East's weakness this year is an aberration, and that the longer decline will take place after UConn has found a landing place.
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A lot of people have been saying that "football drives the bus" and that the non-major conference football schools will be eliminated. They have been saying this since 2002, so I guess it is possible they will be right eventually.
 
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nelsonmuntz said:
A lot of people have been saying that "football drives the bus" and that the non-major conference football schools will be eliminated. They have been saying this since 2002, so I guess it is possible they will be right eventually.
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I don't think they'll be ever officially eliminated.

St. John's is the only non-football playing school still alive.

UConn and Utah State are the only other non-P4 schools that can make it to the next round.

In 2025, the Sweet 16 was entirely P4.
In 2024, there were 3 non-football playing schools in the S16, and they all lost. UConn-SDSU were the other non-P4, and only UConn made the E8.
2023 was historically wild, but the Final Four had only football playing schools (Gonzaga and Creighton made E8).

We'll see if the last three years become more of a trend. I think the Big East can still do well in the coming years, but I don't think it is long-term viable against the B1G-SEC, and to a slightly lesser extent B12-ACC. Roughly in that order, too.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
A lot of people have been saying that "football drives the bus" and that the non-major conference football schools will be eliminated. They have been saying this since 2002, so I guess it is possible they will be right eventually.
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And when/if it ever comes to pass, what can be done about it now? It's all Belling The Cat.
 
Yeah....he was a 33-34 yr old assistant coach at Alabama and she was a 20-21 yr old undergrad. So he basically "recruited" someone barely legal to drink.
 
Deepster said:
Yeah....he was a 33-34 yr old assistant coach at Alabama and she was a 20-21 yr old undergrad. So he basically "recruited" someone barely legal to drink.
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Maybe he's trying to emulate Bill Bellichick.
 
Deepster said:
Yeah....he was a 33-34 yr old assistant coach at Alabama and she was a 20-21 yr old undergrad. So he basically "recruited" someone barely legal to dri
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Aren't there workplace rules against this at universities?
 
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