Brimah is having one of the better season on the Huskies.

[7774]

Many in here refuse to believe that KO has no clue what he's doing.

Yeah that's because some people grasp that it's false on a basic factual level. We've seen KO coach at a high level while he's been here, a level someone would not be capable of if they had no clue what they were doing.

 

[Robertelamin]

That's somewhat fair but how many of those so-called "projects" got he minutes he got year 1 and form here on? Not a good comparison because most or all of those never saw anything but mop up if that. He was allowed the time to improve, he didn't. So while yes he did have a much better career than those guys, is this acceptable in a 4 year curve?

Haven't you said something like no coach can make Brimah better? Then why constantly crush him? He had a low ceiling and he maxed out his talent. It isn't a question of it being acceptable. It is what it is and for whatever reason the staff couldn't bring in someone better.

 

[mauconnfan]

Haven't you said something like no coach can make Brimah better? Then why constantly crush him? He had a low ceiling and he maxed out his talent. It isn't a question of it being acceptable. It is what it is and for whatever reason the staff couldn't bring in someone better.

Yes good point, guess I can hope for the kid to finally GET IT right? I mean I think the frustration I have is that you see what it could be or by now, could have been. For his sake, knowing I'm far from the only one, I wished they were successful in finding a solid 5 during his 4 years. In that case he would've been considered a really nice back up who brought what turned out to be his strengths, shot blocking and passion, to every game for 12-15 minutes and we would have less time to care of his weaknesses, like fouling as it would have less impact from the 6th or 7th man.

 

[UConnfan8]

Yeah that's because some people grasp that it's false on a basic factual level. We've seen KO coach at a high level while he's been here, a level someone would not be capable of if they had no clue what they were doing.

The denial is real. The guy has no clue about X's and O's. Great recruiter, great motivator (maybe? At least in 2014 he was), not a great coach.

 

[7774]

The denial is real. The guy has no clue about X's and O's. Great recruiter, great motivator (maybe? At least in 2014 he was), not a great coach.

So he's beaten Izzo twice, Donovan twice, Boeheim, Hoiberg, Calapari etc. without any clue about X's and O's. He's won a national championship without any clue about X's and O's. We finished 12th of out 350 teams in adjusted defense last year, led by a guy who has no clue about defensive X's and O's.

Seems legit.

And literally no one is saying he's a great coach genius.

 

[UConnfan8]

So he's beaten Izzo twice, Donovan twice, Boeheim, Hoiberg, Calapari etc. without any clue about X's and O's. He's won a national championship without any clue about X's and O's. We finished 12th of out 350 teams in adjusted defense last year, led by a guy who has no clue about defensive X's and O's.

Seems legit.

And literally no one is saying he's a great coach genius.

Lol. I thought the argument about 2014 was over. We had 4 legit pros on that team. Ollie did a great job making that team believe they could win it, but the X's and O's were the same. Dribble pass swing around the 3 point line and either drive or shoot. Just happens we had the best player in the country that year and a legit knock down shooter from 3 plus 2 other guys that were great role players. These were all guys recruited and coached by Calhoun btw. Was the players that won that title. KO preached great defense that year, that's about it.

I was in Dallas in 2014 looking from the crowd saying "man we are so lucky to have KO."

....now, just three years later, I'm asking if he'll be around after next season.

 

[7774]

Lol. I thought the argument about 2014 was over. We had 4 legit pros on that team. Ollie did a great job making that team believe they could win it, but the X's and O's were the same. Dribble pass swing around the 3 point line and either drive or shoot. Just happens we had the best player in the country that year and a legit knock down shooter from 3 plus 2 other guys that were great role players. These were all guys recruited and coached by Calhoun btw. Was the players that won that title. KO preached great defense that year, that's about it.

I was in Dallas in 2014 looking from the crowd saying "man we are so lucky to have KO."

....now, just three years later, I'm asking if he'll be around after next season.

I'm not sure what the "2014 argument" even is, but obviously every year should be included in the assessment of what KO is as a coach.

And how exactly did Shabazz become the best player in the country? Because no one was saying he was a great player after his sophomore year. Same with the great role players. No one was saying that about them when KO took over. Was Calhoun sneaking back in to give them the real coaching and he's not doing that anymore?

 

[UConnfan8]

I'm not sure what the "2014 argument" even is, but obviously every year should be included in the assessment of what KO is as a coach.

And how exactly did Shabazz become the best player in the country? Because no one was saying he was a great player after his sophomore year. Same with the great role players. No one was saying that about them when KO took over. Was Calhoun sneaking back in to give them the real coaching and he's not doing that anymore?

Ok. Well enjoy watching us fade into irrelevance.

 

[Stainmaster]

Ok. Well enjoy watching us fade into irrelevance.

If we're on the path to irrelevance, firing Ollie will only speed it up.

 

[7774]

Ok. Well enjoy watching us fade into irrelevance.

LOL, not interested in answering any of my questions huh?

Based upon your posts here I know you're not capable of any actual thinking, but maybe try to grasp that despite KO coaching poorly this year, there are actually many more reasons for our struggles besides our coach having "no clue".

 

[mauconnfan]

If we're on the path to irrelevance, firing Ollie will only speed it up.

Funny the naysayers do't get this point Stair huh?

 

[JSM1970]

The key is Ollie has shown an ability to recruit high-level guards but is really struggling with front court players and then if you base anything off Brimah and Facey he has no ability to develop them. Facey was top 65 and he hasn't developed. Do we have any confidence Carlton (barely top 200) or Diarra (top 150) will have so much more success?

Funny the naysayers do't get this point Stair huh?

 

[tcf15]

The key is Ollie has shown an ability to recruit high-level guards but is really struggling with front court players and then if you base anything off Brimah and Facey he has no ability to develop them. Facey was top 65 and he hasn't developed. Do we have any confidence Carlton (barely top 200) or Diarra (top 150) will have so much more success?

Just curious, where do you get your recruiting rankings from?

 

[JSM1970]

I like to use 247 because it blends them, I think my Facey was Rivals

based on 247

Facey = 90
Diarra = 126
Carlton = currently 227
Durham = 50
Brimah = 242
Rock Lubin = 344
Vance = 77
Polley = currently 132

Based on these I would agree with the statement about Brimah playing above his ranking.

Just curious, where do you get your recruiting rankings from?

 

[7774]

Just curious, where do you get your recruiting rankings from?

He gets them from whatever source helps justify his narrative the best. Facey is the Rivals 65 because that paints him as a bigger disappointment than if he used the sites that had him in the 80's, 90's or out of the top 100. Christian Vital is not included on his list of players because he's obviously much better than his 166 ranking on 247, and that wouldn't fit into his message that we shouldn't be recruiting guys with that big a number next to their name.

 

[Walker11]

KO is objectively a good defensive coach. He doesn't adjust his offensive schemes to our personnel, which is a problem. The offense looks fine with good pnr guards and wings who can shoot so he either needs to do a better job of adjusting his scheme or recruit to his offensive system with more skilled, high IQ guys. Polley looks like a good fit at the 4 but I really wish we targeted Tremont more.

 

[mauconnfan]

KO is objectively a good defensive coach. He doesn't adjust his offensive schemes to our personnel, which is a problem. The offense looks fine with good pnr guards and wings who can shoot so he either needs to do a better job of adjusting his scheme or recruit to his offensive system with more skilled, high IQ guys. Polley looks like a good fit at the 4 but I really wish we targeted Tremont more.

I think we did really good with Alterique and MAL that won't be the issue moving forward. The bigs and wings as you say will be though.

 

[JSM1970]

I was only listing front court players if you can read genius. Give me a break with CV, shooting 36% and averaging 1 APG on a terrible team. He's only playing because Gilbert is hurt and will be the 5th guard next year if Diallo comes. I'll wait a little while before determining whether he's playing above his ranking. I know in 2-3 years if our best players are Diarra, Carlton and CV we won't be worried about our NCAA seeding.

Enoch was 85, didn't list him.

He gets them from whatever source helps justify his narrative the best. Facey is the Rivals 65 because that paints him as a bigger disappointment than if he used the sites that had him in the 80's, 90's or out of the top 100. Christian Vital is not included on his list of players because he's obviously much better than his 166 ranking on 247, and that wouldn't fit into his message that we shouldn't be recruiting guys with that big a number next to their name.

 

[mauconnfan]

I was only listing front court players if you can read genius. Give me a break with CV, shooting 36% and averaging 1 APG on a terrible team. He's only playing because Gilbert is hurt and will be the 5th guard next year if Diallo comes. I'll wait a little while before determining whether he's playing above his ranking. I know in 2-3 years if our best players are Diarra, Carlton and CV we won't be worried about our NCAA seeding.

Enoch was 85, didn't list him.

Not sure what you're watching or is is just what you want to see? CV is a nice player and will only get better, to not see he is a great find is being blind. Not a great player yet, but certainly is playing well above expectations and we are very lucky he came here.

 

[JSM1970]

He looks promising vs. his ranking, just hard to compare freshmen to their rankings so early, especially on a terrible team.

Not sure what you're watching or is is just what you want to see? CV is a nice player and will only get better, to not see he is a great find is being blind. Not a great player yet, but certainly is playing well above expectations and we are very lucky he came here.

 

[David 76]

Better stats and probably a better player than his freshman year David, .

That was my whole point. I thought I remembered a back and forth where you were saying he had not improved as a sophomore.

I think he is a limited player. Surely, UConn should have a center that can rebound and score and I have always been calling for recruiting beefier bigs (I think you too) while many have pushed for getting more guys on the perimeter and talking positionless basketball.

But our team is better with him than w/o. Which is not sad on Brimah, but on the team

 

[David 76]

Wait.....WHAAAAAAAA????? Overachieved?? Please tell me this is a joke. The man is a seven footer. Overachieved? We got some real nutso's over here.

Yes. If every player on our team played to their rating as Brimah has played to his (mid 200s), we would be awesome.
And we certainly would not have lost to Wagner and Northeastern with AG, RP, TL, JA and Kelis Fisher on the team.
Or, you could blame our situation on the guy who was never supposed to be, a major D-1 center

 

[David 76]

Lol. I thought the argument about 2014 was over. We had 4 legit pros on that team. Ollie did a great job making that team believe they could win it, but the X's and O's were the same. Dribble pass swing around the 3 point line and either drive or shoot. Just happens we had the best player in the country that year and a legit knock down shooter from 3 plus 2 other guys that were great role players. These were all guys recruited and coached by Calhoun btw. Was the players that won that title. KO preached great defense that year, that's about it.

I was in Dallas in 2014 looking from the crowd saying "man we are so lucky to have KO."

....now, just three years later, I'm asking if he'll be around after next season.

Great! Who were those 4 legit pros?

 

[UConnfan8]

Great! Who were those 4 legit pros?

Uhhhh...Napier, Boat, Giffey and Daniels? (All of whom are currently playing professionally in some capacity)

 

[selles]

Uhhhh...Napier, Boat, Giffey and Daniels? (All of whom are currently playing professionally in some capacity)

And....there's your first post of the night? Figures.

 

[UConnfan8]

And....there's your first post of the night? Figures.

Sorry. Was at the game. Were you? Go Huskies.

 

[selles]

Sorry. Was at the game. Were you? Go Huskies.

Nope, I live far away. Just remember that last part a little more with your posts and all will be well.

 

[David 76]

Uhhhh...Napier, Boat, Giffey and Daniels? (All of whom are currently playing professionally in some capacity)

I believe your point was that the NC didn't count for Ollie because there was so much talent on the team in 2014. Funny, I think it was our least talented NC team.
We have many years where we have 4 players that go on to play basketball for money