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BullDawg said:
Most of this appears to be “real” NIL money, not the fan bribery collective kind.
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It also seems to me that it's money Flagg might've gotten attending another blue blood like Kansas or Kentucky as they're longer term contracts based with sports brands that are not necessarily the product of attending Duke.
 
Despite the price tag, I'm good with it. If New Balance wants to throw him millions, fine.

The funding that is sketchy is what the collectives do and most of our players are making. Show up for a photo op at a car dealer and get 500k? That's just bribery with an asterisk.
 
This revelation should put to rest once and for all whether we had a legitimate shot, in the end, of landing Cooper Flagg. Do I believe at one point he considered us seriously? Yes. But by the end, he already knew what this number would be, approximately. And no matter what anyone says here, even with some similar endorsement deals he was not going to make $28 million by coming here to UConn.

Maybe coming to UConn we could have gotten him up over the $10 million mark? For argument's sake I will even agree if you want to argue it could have gotten close to $20 million. Fine.

That is still a monstrous gap of $8 million and probably much more. If you don't think that mattered, then you are either willfully lying, you got your head in the sand or you have those UConn navy/state flag blue sunglasses stapled permanently to your head.

As we pretty much have known all along, only 2 or 3 other schools can muster the NIL money that Duke can (Kentucky... BYU... Stanford... and maybe Kansas?). Duke has more captains of industry than any other school not named Stanford. And yeah, it matters. That is what this astounding number proves.

If Duke wants someone badly enough, we aren't getting him. Period. End of story.
 
LStudfellow said:
This revelation should put to rest once and for all whether we had a legitimate shot, in the end, of landing Cooper Flagg. Do I believe at one point he considered us seriously? Yes. But by the end, he already knew what this number would be, approximately. And no matter what anyone says here, even with some similar endorsement deals he was not going to make $28 million by coming here to UConn.

Maybe coming to UConn we could have gotten him up over the $10 million mark? For argument's sake I will even agree if you want to argue it could have gotten close to $20 million. Fine.

That is still a monstrous gap of $8 million and probably much more. If you don't think that mattered, then you are either willfully lying, you got your head in the sand or you have those UConn navy/state flag blue sunglasses stapled permanently to your head.

As we pretty much have known all along, only 2 or 3 other schools can muster the NIL money that Duke can (Kentucky... BYU... Stanford... and maybe Kansas?). Duke has more captains of industry than any other school not named Stanford. And yeah, it matters. That is what this astounding number proves.

If Duke wants someone badly enough, we aren't getting him. Period. End of story.
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Would New Balance have ignored him, if he selected another school?

Paige, has Nike, Bose, a share in Unrivaled.
 
LStudfellow said:
This revelation should put to rest once and for all whether we had a legitimate shot, in the end, of landing Cooper Flagg. Do I believe at one point he considered us seriously? Yes. But by the end, he already knew what this number would be, approximately. And no matter what anyone says here, even with some similar endorsement deals he was not going to make $28 million by coming here to UConn.

Maybe coming to UConn we could have gotten him up over the $10 million mark? For argument's sake I will even agree if you want to argue it could have gotten close to $20 million. Fine.

That is still a monstrous gap of $8 million and probably much more. If you don't think that mattered, then you are either willfully lying, you got your head in the sand or you have those UConn navy/state flag blue sunglasses stapled permanently to your head.

As we pretty much have known all along, only 2 or 3 other schools can muster the NIL money that Duke can (Kentucky... BYU... Stanford... and maybe Kansas?). Duke has more captains of industry than any other school not named Stanford. And yeah, it matters. That is what this astounding number proves.

If Duke wants someone badly enough, we aren't getting him. Period. End of story.
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Almost all of his NIL was from national endorsements; New Balance, Fanatics, AT&T, etc. Would he still have gotten those national deals if he were at UConn? I believe so since UConn is a national brand, they were coming off back to back national championships, and those national endorsements were more about him being the best player in college and being a lock number 1 overall pick in the 2025 NBA draft. Plus I highly doubt those national brands told Flagg before he picked Duke that they'll pay him more if he went there instead of UConn.

The article said "only" $5 million of it came from Duke's NIL. UConn probably didn't have $5 million for Flagg but I don't think that is why they lost him to Duke. It's been well chronicled why he chose Duke.

From the article:

"He had a $13 million deal with New Balance and then $15 million with Fanatics," Bryant said at the 51:09 mark of the conversation.

Here's the thing -- Howard's reported total is likely Flagg's NIL contracts in totality and not an annual payment. ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski previously reported Flagg's New Balance agreement was "significant." These are often multiyear contracts between incoming rookies and sneaker companies.

Flagg's previous estimated NIL valuation of around $5 million with the Blue Devils during his only season of college basketball was the leading number in the sport, so to think he was bringing in more than five times that number in a single season is almost unfathomable.
 
LStudfellow said:
This revelation should put to rest once and for all whether we had a legitimate shot, in the end, of landing Cooper Flagg. Do I believe at one point he considered us seriously? Yes. But by the end, he already knew what this number would be, approximately. And no matter what anyone says here, even with some similar endorsement deals he was not going to make $28 million by coming here to UConn.

Maybe coming to UConn we could have gotten him up over the $10 million mark? For argument's sake I will even agree if you want to argue it could have gotten close to $20 million. Fine.

That is still a monstrous gap of $8 million and probably much more. If you don't think that mattered, then you are either willfully lying, you got your head in the sand or you have those UConn navy/state flag blue sunglasses stapled permanently to your head.

As we pretty much have known all along, only 2 or 3 other schools can muster the NIL money that Duke can (Kentucky... BYU... Stanford... and maybe Kansas?). Duke has more captains of industry than any other school not named Stanford. And yeah, it matters. That is what this astounding number proves.

If Duke wants someone badly enough, we aren't getting him. Period. End of story.
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All this money was coming regardless of school.
 
REB1094 said:
$28M for 1 year in college, a $60M+ NBA contract coming soon, and I'm sure the shoe and merch companies will keep upping the price as his career goes on

Not too shabby
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I doubt even Dybantsa gets that much (though still a lot). The Flagg hype is on another level
 
LStudfellow said:
This revelation should put to rest once and for all whether we had a legitimate shot, in the end, of landing Cooper Flagg. Do I believe at one point he considered us seriously? Yes. But by the end, he already knew what this number would be, approximately. And no matter what anyone says here, even with some similar endorsement deals he was not going to make $28 million by coming here to UConn.

Maybe coming to UConn we could have gotten him up over the $10 million mark? For argument's sake I will even agree if you want to argue it could have gotten close to $20 million. Fine.

That is still a monstrous gap of $8 million and probably much more. If you don't think that mattered, then you are either willfully lying, you got your head in the sand or you have those UConn navy/state flag blue sunglasses stapled permanently to your head.

As we pretty much have known all along, only 2 or 3 other schools can muster the NIL money that Duke can (Kentucky... BYU... Stanford... and maybe Kansas?). Duke has more captains of industry than any other school not named Stanford. And yeah, it matters. That is what this astounding number proves.

If Duke wants someone badly enough, we aren't getting him. Period. End of story.
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I agree to all of this. BUT, I am pretty dang certain that what he would have had, if he had come to UConn, is a 3-Peat Natty.
 
REB1094 said:
$28M for 1 year in college, a $60M+ NBA contract coming soon, and I'm sure the shoe and merch companies will keep upping the price as his career goes on
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The article specifically says the Fanatics and New Balance deals were not just for 1 year. But I think we can all agree he never went to bed hungry.

"He had a $13 million deal with New Balance and then $15 million with Fanatics," Bryant said at the 51:09 mark of the conversation.

Here's the thing -- Howard's reported total is likely Flagg's NIL contracts in totality and not an annual payment. ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski previously reported Flagg's New Balance agreement was "significant." These are often multiyear contracts between incoming rookies and sneaker companies.
 
alphasigko said:
Perhaps, but not sure.
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Those deals were in the works before he even started his senior season at Montverde. There's 100% chance he gets those deals even if he went to UMaine
 
HooperScooper said:
Just to be clear, you don't think he would have gotten those New Balance and Fanatics deals if he went to UConn for 1 year instead of Duke?
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No way does he get the same deal at UConn that he got at Duke, IMO. And that has less to do with UConn and more to do with Duke. It's still the biggest CBB brand by a wide margin, and those companies are in the brands business.
 
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