Bracketology (merged threads) | Page 3 | The Boneyard

Bracketology (merged threads)

Status
Not open for further replies.
ed4ourgirls said:
ASU just suffered a double digit loss to lowly Cal today, so Maryland will be moving up.
Expand ...

Perhaps. Perhaps not.
Need to see what MD does in B10 tourney. If Ohio St wins out, they might just swap places with ASU, leaving MD at #8.
 
toadfoot said:
Maryland is by far the most dangerous #2 seed. I'm not sold at all on the Pac-12 teams. I think there's a fair chance that Maryland wins their conference tournament and either Oregon St. or Arizona St. (or both) fail to win the Pac-12 tourney, which should juggle the brackets.
Expand ...

I'm 1 for 1 as Arizona St. falls to Cal (gack!);) Bad loss for ASU.
 
toadfoot said:
I'm 1 for 1 as Arizona St. falls to Cal (gack!);) Bad loss for ASU.
Expand ...
Stanford seems to have the best shot at this point to win the Pac 12...
 
Sluconn Husky said:
The problem is the committee rankings are wrong. You can use the eye test to tell Maryland is the best of those #2's.

Sagarin has the Terps 3rd in the nation, Massey has them 5th.
Expand ...

Weak non conference schedule.
0-3 against top 10.
Best wins are Syracuse and michigan st.
Not a single road win against a team likely to make the tournament.
 
Toad foot - not that much of a Nostradamus like achievement to predict one of two teams in a conference will not win the title! :) Now when Oregon State fails (and I think they will) you can take your bow!

Lots of shake up in both the top end of the brackets and in the teams hoping for the last few at large spots - not many stepping up to the plate to demand hosting rights for the first two rounds or to make their case for inclusion at the back end.
 
.-.
vowelguy said:
Weak non conference schedule.
0-3 against top 10.
Best wins are Syracuse and michigan st.
Not a single road win against a team likely to make the tournament.
Expand ...


You're certainly right on the resume part, and Maryland should be ashamed of playing such a pitiful non-conf schedule. That said, they are still the best of those teams. I mean, ASU just lost to Cal today. Anyone think Maryland loses to Cal?
 
Sluconn Husky said:
You're certainly right on the resume part, and Maryland should be ashamed of playing such a pitiful non-conf schedule. That said, they are still the best of those teams. I mean, ASU just lost to Cal today. Anyone think Maryland loses to Cal?
Expand ...

It's not based on 1 game. And scheduling DOES matter.
ASU has road wins over Stanford, Syracuse, and Washington.
Home wins over Stanford, UCLA, Florida St.

If Maryland wind the big 10, then that'll be something. But if not, they are even at best with ASU.
 
Blueconn said:
Charlie seems wrong as often as he's right and committee seedlings can often surprise.

But the possibility of whacking the Lady Vols is a fun thing to contemplate. And then to listen to announcers explain Q's decision to refuse the "Stewie game" in order that they pack the Carrier Dome on that same night with a few hundred grateful fans (was it 300 ?), and then to have pre-game locker room video of Brenda explain that stopping "30, 4, 3, 33, 11, 15, 24, 12, 51, 22, 2, and 20" will be critical to playing "Maryland basketball"....Gosh, I hope Charlie is spot on.

Most fun in Bridgeport since P.T. Barnum was in town.
Expand ...

I was worried that I was the only one who found Brenda's pregame and halftime talks extremely facile and annoying. Just a bunch of empty platitudes. And it's like she feels like she has to repeat every single sentence.
 
vowelguy said:
It's not based on 1 game. And scheduling DOES matter.
ASU has road wins over Stanford, Syracuse, and Washington.
Home wins over Stanford, UCLA, Florida St.

If Maryland wind the big 10, then that'll be something. But if not, they are even at best with ASU.
Expand ...

But none of that has anything to do with my original assertion that Maryland is the best of the #2 seeds. You can suggest they don't deserve to be put in a higher category but you're not going to convince me ASU, Oregon State, and Texas are better teams.
 
vowelguy said:
It's not based on 1 game. And scheduling DOES matter.
ASU has road wins over Stanford, Syracuse, and Washington.
Home wins over Stanford, UCLA, Florida St.

If Maryland wind the big 10, then that'll be something. But if not, they are even at best with ASU.
Expand ...

I would suspect that after today's loss to Cal, ASU would likely fall to #8 or #9 overall, and Maryland would move up to #7.
 
Plebe said:
I was worried that I was the only one who found Brenda's pregame and halftime talks extremely facile and annoying. Just a bunch of empty platitudes. And it's like she feels like she has to repeat every single sentence.
Expand ...
Ha ha! No worries - you are not alone. I wonder if there are members of her team who also roll their eyes (at least figuratively)....
 
.-.
vowelguy said:
You are using the wrong rankings. The committee's top 10 as of this past Monday was:
  1. UConn
  2. South Carolina
  3. Notre Dame
  4. Baylor
  5. Texas
  6. Oregon State
  7. Arizona State
  8. Maryland
  9. Ohio State
  10. UCLA
Thus Maryland is not the "best #2." They are in fact the weakest #2 in the committee's rankings.
Expand ...


vowelguy- - -MY BAD! Chalk it up to I'm 68 & I'm losing my mind!
 
Plebe said:
I was worried that I was the only one who found Brenda's pregame and halftime talks extremely facile and annoying. Just a bunch of empty platitudes. And it's like she feels like she has to repeat every single sentence.
Expand ...
Those 20 second blurbs that ESPN loves so much are staged for the cameras and the team knows it. It's a wonder they can keep a straight face during them. Anything of importance is said in private.
 
So through the first couple of days of tournament play teams in the current rankings at numbers: 10, 11, 14, and 15 have lost in ASU, Stanford, FSU, and TAMU. And only the FSU loss was to another though lesser ranked team in Miami. The ASU loss is the only one so far that will likely have an effect on the NCAA top 10 reveal as they were in the #7 spot and will likely lose some ground. But the others may well shake the tree in the area of 4 seeds who are the bubble teams to host the first weekend.
We don't have a lot of information on what the committee thinks are the next ten teams but it likely is a positive for Syracuse and DePaul.
 
UcMiami said:
So through the first couple of days of tournament play teams in the current rankings at numbers: 10, 11, 14, and 15 have lost in ASU, Stanford, FSU, and TAMU. And only the FSU loss was to another though lesser ranked team in Miami. The ASU loss is the only one so far that will likely have an effect on the NCAA top 10 reveal as they were in the #7 spot and will likely lose some ground. But the others may well shake the tree in the area of 4 seeds who are the bubble teams to host the first weekend.
We don't have a lot of information on what the committee thinks are the next ten teams but it likely is a positive for Syracuse and DePaul.
Expand ...

Charlie has already said that he has ASU dropping behind Maryland after yesterday's loss, and FSU dropping from a 4 seed to a 5. Stanford was probably the lowest 3 seed heading into yesterday, and the loss to Washington could have dropped them to a 4 seed. Syracuse is solidified as a 4 seed and, according to Charlie, DePaul moves up from a 5 to a 4. Of course, DePaul has yet to play its conference tournament, and any loss to a Big East opponent drop set it back as well.
 
In looking at the two and three seeds, unless Oregon State or TX loses today, Uconn will face either Ohio State or Maryland in Bridgeport - TX cannot play in Dallas which moves them to either Sioux falls or Lexington and Oregon State will be either Dallas or Sioux Falls which leaves one of Ohio State or Maryland in Bridgeport. If they both make the final, I believe they are both 2 seeds, if one loses before the final, they are probably one of the top three seeds and couldn't be in the same region with the other.
 
.-.
Ohio replaces Maryland as #2 in bridgeport and Depaul is now the #4.
 
Alydar said:
I'd much rather see a defensive team as the 2 in Bridgeport. Teams like tOSU can score a lot of points while these 50-60-points-a-game teams can never outscore UConn.
Expand ...
If the choice is Ohio vs Maryland ... I think I take Ohio - they both score a ton, but one of them actually has heard of defense, even if they don't much care for it! :)
 
huskeynut said:
Ohio State's defeat by MSU will drop them out of a #2 seed.
Expand ...
Following the SC game, Creme predicted UCLA as the 2 and OSU as the 3 in our bracket.
 
.-.
I meant to ask - how is Seton Hall a 7 seed and USF an 8 seed? That seems to defy logic. In the last 10 games Hall does have a win over Depaul, but they have losses to Marquette, Georgetown and SJU. All of USF's losses have come against ranked teams except for 2 - Temple once and Memphis once. I get that Hall beat a ranked Depaul team, but it seems illogical to me. It's big deal for USF because as an 8 seed, they'd have to face a 1 seed in the 2nd round. I am sure the RPI or something shows a better number for Seton Hall, but from an eye test standpoint, it doesn't seem right to me...
 
huskeynut said:
Ohio State's defeat by MSU will drop them out of a #2 seed.
Expand ...
Currently Creme has OSU as a #2 and UCLA as a #3 - OSU has a great RPI and two wins over Maryland and the loss to Michigan State is not as bad as the ASU loss to Cal - Maryland needed to go far in the tournament because of their crap OOC, OSU had a dynamite OOC and an RPI better than ASU or UCLA so they probably stay ahead of them. It doesn't much matter because it is likely we end up with OSU and one of the Pac12 as the two and three seeds in our region at this point anyway.
 
UcMiami said:
Currently Creme has OSU as a #2 and UCLA as a #3 - OSU has a great RPI and two wins over Maryland and the loss to Michigan State is not as bad as the ASU loss to Cal - Maryland needed to go far in the tournament because of their crap OOC, OSU had a dynamite OOC and an RPI better than ASU or UCLA so they probably stay ahead of them. It doesn't much matter because it is likely we end up with OSU and one of the Pac12 as the two and three seeds in our region at this point anyway.
Expand ...
Creme just updated his Bracketology this (Sunday) morning - tOSU is now a projected 3 seed in Bridgeport, with UCLA the new 2 seed in the same regional.
 
Villanova just lost in the first round of the BE to Creighton which may drop them out of the field (I think their best player is out for the season.) It opens the possibility for two Ivy league schools to get in, which would be pretty cool! No one has covered themselves with glory at the back end of the field and as the bubble teams not making it in.
 
UcMiami said:
Villanova just lost in the first round of the BE to Creighton which may drop them out of the field (I think their best player is out for the season.) It opens the possibility for two Ivy league schools to get in, which would be pretty cool! No one has covered themselves with glory at the back end of the field and as the bubble teams not making it in.
Expand ...
Very surprised if two Ivy's make it. Their overall resumes are not that good. They shouldnt benefit because other teams lost in conference tournaments when the Ivey's dont have one.
 
ochoopsfan said:
Very surprised if two Ivy's make it. Their overall resumes are not that good. They shouldnt benefit because other teams lost in conference tournaments when the Ivey's dont have one.
Expand ...
They (Penn and Princeton) have RPIs in the 30s which is impressive considering that teams in P5 conferences have ones a lot worse. It probably will not happen, but it would definitely be nice if it did.
 
.-.
Status
Not open for further replies.

Forum statistics

Threads
168,409
Messages
4,571,780
Members
10,477
Latest member
Goose91


Top Bottom